Scott Harrison's rumoured opponent.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 15 Apr 2006, 13:03

Latest opponent to be rumoured to be fighting Scott Harrison... Is Martin Honorio - who fairly recently upset the highly regarded prospect, Steven Luevano.

Its the stand out result for Honorio - who got KO'd by Abelyan a year and a half back.

He is going to have a significant height advantage over Scott and is a natural Featherweight. Doesn't pack a punch, but looks to be a decent boxer.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=045749

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 15 Apr 2006, 13:21

Not.............good.

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 15 Apr 2006, 13:25

stujones wrote:Latest opponent to be rumoured to be fighting Scott Harrison... Is Martin Honorio - who fairly recently upset the highly regarded prospect, Steven Luevano.

Its the stand out result for Honorio - who got KO'd by Abelyan a year and a half back.

He is going to have a significant height advantage over Scott and is a natural Featherweight. Doesn't pack a punch, but looks to be a decent boxer.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=045749

Sounds crap. With the likes of JMM, Injin Chi and Nicky Cook (who I'd bet would all take it in a second) around I see no reason for Harrison to be matched with a nobody. Hell how about a rematch with Victor Polo?
The only thing I'm looking forward to now is Takaloo-Magee.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 15 Apr 2006, 13:31

What's the "Forja De Ídolos" Tournament Featherweight Title?

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 15 Apr 2006, 13:46

Ive said for along time Scott Harrison isnt world class. If so fight world class. He cant dig it with the JMM's ect, no way.

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 15 Apr 2006, 13:56

Razor wrote:Ive said for along time Scott Harrison isnt world class. If so fight world class. He cant dig it with the JMM's ect, no way.

I think he is world class. You don't beat the likes of Chacon, McCullough and Medina without having world class ability.
I don't blame Harrison for his next opponent. Guzman appeared to be at it but the blame has to lie with Warren.
Inded the level of opponent that Harrison has beaten is way above that of most other featherweights ledgers including JMM. Indeed outside of drawing with Pac-Man and beating Medina, JMM has never really fought anyone.

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 15 Apr 2006, 14:11

Yeah my post was worded wrong, alot of people say Scott this Scott that, i think this weight issue is huge and that aint good for the body what hes putting it through.

all in all the fights any of the top 4 people and he loses i think.

Blue · Post by **Blue** » 15 Apr 2006, 22:21

WayoftheCass wrote:
Razor wrote:Ive said for along time Scott Harrison isnt world class. If so fight world class. He cant dig it with the JMM's ect, no way.
I think he is world class. You don't beat the likes of Chacon, McCullough and Medina without having world class ability.
I don't blame Harrison for his next opponent. Guzman appeared to be at it but the blame has to lie with Warren.
Inded the level of opponent that Harrison has beaten is way above that of most other featherweights ledgers including JMM. Indeed outside of drawing with Pac-Man and beating Medina, JMM has never really fought anyone.

U forgot to mention Marquez beat Agapito Sanchez who beat Larios (Who beat McCullough twice.) and gave Manny Pacquiao fits in a draw. Juan also KO’d Medina who split two fights with Harrison and he outclassed Victor Polo who was coming off a hometown draw with Harrison. He took the step up Razor’s talking about by beating Gainer and drawing with Pacquiao and his losses to Norwood and John were considered by many as controversial...In short; Harrison’s record pales in comparison.

Why not give the so-called mandatory to the next man down (Jorge Linares) instead of letting Scott off so easily.
Lets not set a precedent for a champ to avoid his mandatory by stalling no matter what the excuse is.

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WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 16 Apr 2006, 05:49

Blue wrote:
WayoftheCass wrote:
Razor wrote:Ive said for along time Scott Harrison isnt world class. If so fight world class. He cant dig it with the JMM's ect, no way.
I think he is world class. You don't beat the likes of Chacon, McCullough and Medina without having world class ability.
I don't blame Harrison for his next opponent. Guzman appeared to be at it but the blame has to lie with Warren.
Inded the level of opponent that Harrison has beaten is way above that of most other featherweights ledgers including JMM. Indeed outside of drawing with Pac-Man and beating Medina, JMM has never really fought anyone.
U forgot to mention Marquez beat Agapito Sanchez who beat Larios (Who beat McCullough twice.) and gave Manny Pacquiao fits in a draw. Juan also KO’d Medina who split two fights with Harrison and he outclassed Victor Polo who was coming off a hometown draw with Harrison. He took the step up Razor’s talking about by beating Gainer and drawing with Pacquiao and his losses to Norwood and John were considered by many as controversial...In short; Harrison’s record pales in comparison.

Why not give the so-called mandatory to the next man down (Jorge Linares) instead of letting Scott off so easily.
Lets not set a precedent for a champ to avoid his mandatory by stalling no matter what the excuse is.
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My bad. Indeed he did beat Polo well on points recently. And yes I do notice a win over Sanchez who did beat Larrios way back. Of course many people believe that McCullough beat Larrios in their first fight (I'm not one) which makes Harrison's brutally one sided win over Harrison a few years ago look better.
I didn't mention the Gainer fight because it was so horrible. No where near as horrible as the Norwood loss though which is one of the worst fights if not THE worst world title fight in history.
However with little experience Harrison outclassed Tracy Harris Patterson and Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson very early in his career and beat a sold champ in Chacon. Yes he did lose the first fight with Medina on a split decision in a big upset but he overpowered him in 11 in the retake.
I don't exactly think Scott's record pales in significance. If it did then Boxrec wouldn't have him ranked so highly.
Indeed Scott would most likely be outboxed by JMM but his power would give him a chance and I believe Scott has a chance against anyone.
As for Linares

being a mandatory doesn't cut it with me. Organisation's ratings are generally farcical. He is still a nobody and I have paid a lot of money to go and see him fight. I don't want the credibility of the WBO title held up , for all I care he can throw it in the bin, but I do want to see a competitive fight. Give me Harrison-Chi over Linares any day. Chance would be a fine thing though.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 16 Apr 2006, 15:00

Fight is now pretty much confirmed.

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 16 Apr 2006, 17:17

On paper it looks like a farce, but knowing Harrison it'll probably turn into a life or death battle...

Blue · Post by **Blue** » 16 Apr 2006, 18:01

WayoftheCass wrote:
Blue wrote:
WayoftheCass wrote:I think he is world class. You don't beat the likes of Chacon, McCullough and Medina without having world class ability.
I don't blame Harrison for his next opponent. Guzman appeared to be at it but the blame has to lie with Warren.
Inded the level of opponent that Harrison has beaten is way above that of most other featherweights ledgers including JMM. Indeed outside of drawing with Pac-Man and beating Medina, JMM has never really fought anyone.
U forgot to mention Marquez beat Agapito Sanchez who beat Larios (Who beat McCullough twice.) and gave Manny Pacquiao fits in a draw. Juan also KO’d Medina who split two fights with Harrison and he outclassed Victor Polo who was coming off a hometown draw with Harrison. He took the step up Razor’s talking about by beating Gainer and drawing with Pacquiao and his losses to Norwood and John were considered by many as controversial...In short; Harrison’s record pales in comparison.

Why not give the so-called mandatory to the next man down (Jorge Linares) instead of letting Scott off so easily.
Lets not set a precedent for a champ to avoid his mandatory by stalling no matter what the excuse is.
My bad. Indeed he did beat Polo well on points recently. And yes I do notice a win over Sanchez who did beat Larrios way back. Of course many people believe that McCullough beat Larrios in their first fight (I'm not one) which makes Harrison's brutally one sided win over Harrison a few years ago look better.
I didn't mention the Gainer fight because it was so horrible. No where near as horrible as the Norwood loss though which is one of the worst fights if not THE worst world title fight in history.
However with little experience Harrison outclassed Tracy Harris Patterson and Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson very early in his career and beat a sold champ in Chacon. Yes he did lose the first fight with Medina on a split decision in a big upset but he overpowered him in 11 in the retake.
I don't exactly think Scott's record pales in significance. If it did then Boxrec wouldn't have him ranked so highly.
Indeed Scott would most likely be outboxed by JMM but his power would give him a chance and I believe Scott has a chance against anyone.
As for Linares being a mandatory doesn't cut it with me. Organisation's ratings are generally farcical. He is still a nobody and I have paid a lot of money to go and see him fight. I don't want the credibility of the WBO title held up , for all I care he can throw it in the bin, but I do want to see a competitive fight. Give me Harrison-Chi over Linares any day. Chance would be a fine thing though.

Actually Larrios’ win (@122 and Harrison's win (@126 over McCullough has very little to do with the comparison of Scott and Juan. McCullough has done nothing @ 126 to be considered top level.

U may dislike their styles, but Gainer KO’d Medina cold and Norwood did the same to present WBA champ Takashi Koshimoto.

If U are going to use former champs Tracy Harris Patterson and Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson as examples, I easily can counter with Julio Gervacio & Daniel Jimenez; All 4 were stepping stones past their best and were no longer rated by anybody.

Chacon never beat a top level fighter and his only real big victory over Polo was tainted by the referee who made a bad ruling. Pablo had already been outclassed by Norwood and had split two fights with journeyman Claudio Victor Martinet before he met Scott.

On a comparison of common opponents like Medina and Polo; Marquez wins hands down.

I don't want the credibility of the WBO title held up either. But Linares is the next man in line and more credible than Martin Honorio. What does Harrison have to gain by beating a guy who was KO’d by William Abelyan? My point was that the WBO has mandatories and ratings, yet they don’t follow them.
Scott Harrison has a history of taking advantage of that.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 17 Apr 2006, 06:09

It's now confirmed. Oh the joy

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 17 Apr 2006, 09:38

fabulous posts by BLUE

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Apr 2006, 15:36

Blue, Takashi Koshimoto is the WBC champ. :P

Livra, you would agree since you love to rip on British fighters.

Noticed how you don't rip on Calzaghe after Lacy when you were saying you couldn't wait to log in afterwards.

Blue · Post by **Blue** » 17 Apr 2006, 23:41

As I’ve said before, “All those World bodies look alike to me.”

But U did get my point; Right?

8) Stay on track Max, the thread is about Scott Harrison's rumored opponent.
Drop the herd mentality & stick to discussing boxing…

So, do U think Martin Honorio is a worthy opponent?

charlieb · Post by **charlieb** » 18 Apr 2006, 06:34

Of course Harrison's world class. He wouldn't be getting ridden so badly about his choice of opponent if he wasn't.

Rightly so too, we all know that somebody's taking the pish.

IMO - He's a solid fight for all of the division's top men but still loses a wide decision to Marquez and a close call to John, gets put to sleep by Guzman in the worst stylistic nightmare imaginable and Chi cuts him to ribbons in a barnburner that ends in a doc stoppage.

Of course Chi may have mellowed into the twighlight of an astonishingly brutal career and John may not like it up him but Guzman and Marquez both dwarf Harrison and his people know it regardless of the recent bluster being put about.

Removing those fighters from the equation, the likes of Honorio become "viable".

Step up a division and Harrison is no longer world class.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 18 Apr 2006, 07:02

So Harrison wallops the overrated Abelyan. And Abelyan in turn crushes Honorio.....so now we get Harrison v Honorio?

And Baloney expects people to buy this crap...and it's not even in Scotland??!

If he makes a loss on this show, he can't complain.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 18 Apr 2006, 07:03

Blue wrote: As I’ve said before, “All those World bodies look alike to me.”
But U did get my point; Right?

8) Stay on track Max, the thread is about Scott Harrison's rumored opponent.
Drop the herd mentality & stick to discussing boxing…

So, do U think Martin Honorio is a worthy opponent?

Max has no herd mentality!

Even Livra knows that.

Dunno really never heard of Honorio.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 18 Apr 2006, 07:15

Max Molyneux wrote:Blue, Takashi Koshimoto is the WBC champ. :P

Livra, you would agree since you love to rip on British fighters.

Noticed how you don't rip on Calzaghe after Lacy when you were saying you couldn't wait to log in afterwards.

Calzaghe will get his hiding in due time just like Alex Arthur... What a great night that was. Hatton will also get his hiding and I will be pulling my cock as I watch him get beaten down like the two bit dog he is!!!

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 18 Apr 2006, 07:27

lirva33 wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Blue, Takashi Koshimoto is the WBC champ. :P

Livra, you would agree since you love to rip on British fighters.

Noticed how you don't rip on Calzaghe after Lacy when you were saying you couldn't wait to log in afterwards.
Calzaghe will get his hiding in due time just like Alex Arthur... What a great night that was. Hatton will also get his hiding and I will be pulling my cock as I watch him get beaten down like the two bit dog he is!!!

Yes, Calzaghe will get his hiding from Lacy as you predicted. Oh no, hold on, he didn't. Someone else then.

Yes, Hatton will get his hiding. No doubt from Witter, who is on a roll after his sensational performances against Kotelnik and Lynes.

You will go on to make a fortune backing trap 7 at the Monmore bags.

The world will live in peace and harmony for ever and ever.

Tell you what, go back to pulling your cock whilst you watch the other two bit dogs you like.

P.S. Picture below is of Lirva and boxingchat at a karaoke night in Slough. I'm not sure which is which.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f286/ ... titled.jpg

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Apr 2006, 09:43

JMM would beat Harrison at a canter IMO.

Not a good choice of opponent, why not use this opportunity to move up to 130 and get used to that weight - he is supposedly doing so after this next fight.

yiddo14 · Post by **yiddo14** » 18 Apr 2006, 09:48

lirva33 wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Blue, Takashi Koshimoto is the WBC champ. :P

Livra, you would agree since you love to rip on British fighters.

Noticed how you don't rip on Calzaghe after Lacy when you were saying you couldn't wait to log in afterwards.
Calzaghe will get his hiding in due time just like Alex Arthur... What a great night that was. Hatton will also get his hiding and I will be pulling my cock as I watch him get beaten down like the two bit dog he is!!!

Why is it that you seem to hate british fighters?

Did you cop a hiding off a brit at some point in your life?

You need to calm down mate.We aint all bad!!

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 18 Apr 2006, 10:39

jomothepure wrote:
lirva33 wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Blue, Takashi Koshimoto is the WBC champ. :P

Livra, you would agree since you love to rip on British fighters.

Noticed how you don't rip on Calzaghe after Lacy when you were saying you couldn't wait to log in afterwards.
Calzaghe will get his hiding in due time just like Alex Arthur... What a great night that was. Hatton will also get his hiding and I will be pulling my cock as I watch him get beaten down like the two bit dog he is!!!
Yes, Calzaghe will get his hiding from Lacy as you predicted. Oh no, hold on, he didn't. Someone else then.

Yes, Hatton will get his hiding. No doubt from Witter, who is on a roll after his sensational performances against Kotelnik and Lynes.

You will go on to make a fortune backing trap 7 at the Monmore bags.

The world will live in peace and harmony for ever and ever.

Tell you what, go back to pulling your cock whilst you watch the other two bit dogs you like.

P.S. Picture below is of Lirva and boxingchat at a karaoke night in Slough. I'm not sure which is which.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f286/ ... titled.jpg

I might not know art but i know what i like.

Strange how some Evangelists look like the cast of TerraHawks.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Apr 2006, 11:25

I'm biased (I work for ITV), but if Honorio gets through the early rounds, he's a tough tough hombre. He's like Manuel Medina (the only man to genuinely beat Harrison): slow starting and vulnerable at first; a real handful once he gets into a rhythm.
He's actually a stablemate of Medina's.

Honorio put Abelyan down, by the way.

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