Errol Spence Jr - in the same situation that GGG was before he got the big fights but with the TIME on his side!

[apollo creed]

I can't see the other top welters talking with interest about Spence. It is almost like he isn't a champion in their division. Porter, Thurman, Garcia and Vargas, they only want to fight each other but without Spence in their mix ?! The big problem with Spence it is he's only 28 y/o. I hope Spence is gonna stay active and fight the best available opponents.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I can't see the other top welters talking with interest about Spence. It is almost like he isn't a champion in their division. Porter, Thurman, Garcia and Vargas, they only want to fight each other but without Spence in their mix ?! The big problem with Spence it is he's only 28 y/o. I hope Spence is gonna stay active and fight the best available opponents.

Key words..

If Porter, Thurman and Garcia want to play a 3-way.. Then yeh, I hope Spence does fight the next best opponents available.

[siablo14]

I can't see the other top welters talking with interest about Spence. It is almost like he isn't a champion in their division. Porter, Thurman, Garcia and Vargas, they only want to fight each other but without Spence in their mix ?! The big problem with Spence it is he's only 28 y/o. I hope Spence is gonna stay active and fight the best available opponents.

Another difference is Spence has the same adviser/manager as the guys he wants to fight so I believe he will get to fight them some time down the line.

[ValMar]

I can't see the other top welters talking with interest about Spence. It is almost like he isn't a champion in their division. Porter, Thurman, Garcia and Vargas, they only want to fight each other but without Spence in their mix ?! The big problem with Spence it is he's only 28 y/o. I hope Spence is gonna stay active and fight the best available opponents.

I would like to see Spence moving up at LMW, as soon as possible. I think it is the optimal weight division for him.

[SenorPipino]

I can't see the other top welters talking with interest about Spence. It is almost like he isn't a champion in their division. Porter, Thurman, Garcia and Vargas, they only want to fight each other but without Spence in their mix ?! The big problem with Spence it is he's only 28 y/o. I hope Spence is gonna stay active and fight the best available opponents.

I would like to see Spence moving up at LMW, as soon as possible. I think it is the optimal weight division for him.

With all the huge money making potential matchups at 147?

Why would he?

Welterweight is boxing's glamour division. Many of the 147 pounders have become marketable mainstream stars thru television exposure.

Possible showdowns with Garcia, Porter, Thurman and even Crawford promise huge paydays for Spence.

That kind of money doesn't exist at 154 now that Canelo is gone.

[ValMar]

I can't see the other top welters talking with interest about Spence. It is almost like he isn't a champion in their division. Porter, Thurman, Garcia and Vargas, they only want to fight each other but without Spence in their mix ?! The big problem with Spence it is he's only 28 y/o. I hope Spence is gonna stay active and fight the best available opponents.

I would like to see Spence moving up at LMW, as soon as possible. I think it is the optimal weight division for him.

With all the huge money making potential matchups at 147?

Why would he?

Welterweight is boxing's glamour division. Many of the 147 pounders have become marketable mainstream stars thru television exposure.

Possible showdowns with Garcia, Porter, Thurman and even Crawford promise huge paydays for Spence.

That kind of money doesn't exist at 154 now that Canelo is gone.

The worthy opponents avoid Spence at WW, and I doubt it will change soon.
Spence is too big for WW, and I think he will not be capable to make 147 (let us say 2020) easily (I suppose, but I am not sure, of course).
The big money will come, I agree that just now WW is much more lucrative division, but it might be quite different in the near future.

[siablo14]

I can't see the other top welters talking with interest about Spence. It is almost like he isn't a champion in their division. Porter, Thurman, Garcia and Vargas, they only want to fight each other but without Spence in their mix ?! The big problem with Spence it is he's only 28 y/o. I hope Spence is gonna stay active and fight the best available opponents.

I would like to see Spence moving up at LMW, as soon as possible. I think it is the optimal weight division for him.

No. I want to see him clean out welterweight, first.

[siablo14]

I would like to see Spence moving up at LMW, as soon as possible. I think it is the optimal weight division for him.

With all the huge money making potential matchups at 147?

Why would he?

Welterweight is boxing's glamour division. Many of the 147 pounders have become marketable mainstream stars thru television exposure.

Possible showdowns with Garcia, Porter, Thurman and even Crawford promise huge paydays for Spence.

That kind of money doesn't exist at 154 now that Canelo is gone.

The worthy opponents avoid Spence at WW, and I doubt it will change soon.
Spence is too big for WW, and I think he will not be capable to make 147 (let us say 2020) easily (I suppose, but I am not sure, of course).
The big money will come, I agree that just now WW is much more lucrative division, but it might be quite different in the near future.

He is a Haymon fighter same for Garcia, Porter, and Thurman, Those match-ups will soon be made.

[ValMar]

With all the huge money making potential matchups at 147?

Why would he?

Welterweight is boxing's glamour division. Many of the 147 pounders have become marketable mainstream stars thru television exposure.

Possible showdowns with Garcia, Porter, Thurman and even Crawford promise huge paydays for Spence.

That kind of money doesn't exist at 154 now that Canelo is gone.

The worthy opponents avoid Spence at WW, and I doubt it will change soon.
Spence is too big for WW, and I think he will not be capable to make 147 (let us say 2020) easily (I suppose, but I am not sure, of course).
The big money will come, I agree that just now WW is much more lucrative division, but it might be quite different in the near future.

He is a Haymon fighter same for Garcia, Porter, and Thurman, Those match-ups will soon be made.

It would be fine. I hope you are right.

[SenorPipino]

The worthy opponents avoid Spence at WW, and I doubt it will change soon.
Spence is too big for WW, and I think he will not be capable to make 147 (let us say 2020) easily (I suppose, but I am not sure, of course).
The big money will come, I agree that just now WW is much more lucrative division, but it might be quite different in the near future.

He is a Haymon fighter same for Garcia, Porter, and Thurman, Those match-ups will soon be made.

It would be fine. I hope you are right.

Yes, Uncle Al will force those fights. He likes money too.

I would expect Spence to meet either Porter or Garcia by years end despite their reluctance.

It would be nice if Spence fought 3 times in 2018 and opposed both Porter and Garcia.

Especially if he has that ho-hum matchup with Ocampo in June.

[Enlightened-One]

Errol Spence Jr - in the same situation that GGG was before he got the big fights but with the TIME on his side!

The situation is completely different, but there is one similarity, which relates to the following coincidence...

K2 and HBO never attempted to make bouts between GGG and his big name peers. They insisted on waiting for offers being made to them rather than proactively initiating contract negotiations with to those parties instead.

Similarly, none of Errol Spence Jr's representatives have ever submitted any sort of offers to the likes of Crawford, Thurman, Porter, Garcia etc. It simply hasn't happened.

If you don't believe me, then double-check these facts for yourself.

You're entitled to your own opinion in regards to this matter, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.

[Badhusker]

Errol Spence Jr - in the same situation that GGG was before he got the big fights but with the TIME on his side!

The situation is completely different, but there is one similarity, which relates to the following coincidence...

K2 and HBO never attempted to make bouts between GGG and his big name peers. They insisted on waiting for offers being made to them rather than proactively initiating contract negotiations with to those parties instead.

Similarly, none of Errol Spence Jr's representatives have ever submitted any sort of offers to the likes of Crawford, Thurman, Porter, Garcia etc. It simply hasn't happened.

If you don't believe me, then double-check these facts for yourself.

You're entitled to your own opinion in regards to this matter, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.

Haymon lines up those fights, and its hard to make an offer when they don't return the phone calls.

[Enlightened-One]

Errol Spence Jr - in the same situation that GGG was before he got the big fights but with the TIME on his side!

The situation is completely different, but there is one similarity, which relates to the following coincidence...

K2 and HBO never attempted to make bouts between GGG and his big name peers. They insisted on waiting for offers being made to them rather than proactively initiating contract negotiations with to those parties instead.

Similarly, none of Errol Spence Jr's representatives have ever submitted any sort of offers to the likes of Crawford, Thurman, Porter, Garcia etc. It simply hasn't happened.

If you don't believe me, then double-check these facts for yourself.

You're entitled to your own opinion in regards to this matter, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.

Haymon lines up those fights, and its hard to make an offer when they don't return the phone calls.

What phone calls? You're pretending something happened without possessing any evidence whatsoever to corroborate your theory.

Be honest, you know I'm right, but you just don't want to admit it, so you make stuff up to avoid conceding facts that don't adhere to your preferred narrative.

[Badhusker]

The situation is completely different, but there is one similarity, which relates to the following coincidence...

K2 and HBO never attempted to make bouts between GGG and his big name peers. They insisted on waiting for offers being made to them rather than proactively initiating contract negotiations with to those parties instead.

Similarly, none of Errol Spence Jr's representatives have ever submitted any sort of offers to the likes of Crawford, Thurman, Porter, Garcia etc. It simply hasn't happened.

If you don't believe me, then double-check these facts for yourself.

You're entitled to your own opinion in regards to this matter, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.

Haymon lines up those fights, and its hard to make an offer when they don't return the phone calls.

What phone calls? You're pretending something happened without possessing any evidence whatsoever to corroborate your theory.

Be honest, you know I'm right, but you just don't want to admit it, so you make stuff up to avoid conceding facts that don't adhere to your preferred narrative.

I'm simply going by what Spence said. When interviewed, Thurman has said Spence isn't on his to do list. Porter said he was going the WBC route, and Danny Garcia only recently said he would fight Spence. He said Peterson was the only top guy they contacted that wanted the fight.

Can you "prove" that no representatives of Spence have submitted any offers to other fighters? As usual, you are an idiot on the forum that simply gets a charge out of playing the devil's advocate. You should try once to discuss who your favorite boxers are, why they won or lost, who you think is the best, etc. All you do is post links from shitt we can read ourselves, and demand people to prove what they say. When wrong, you never admit it. You once even claimed that a verbal agreement in the UK is legally binding for a contract.

[Enlightened-One]

Haymon lines up those fights, and its hard to make an offer when they don't return the phone calls.

What phone calls? You're pretending something happened without possessing any evidence whatsoever to corroborate your theory.

Be honest, you know I'm right, but you just don't want to admit it, so you make stuff up to avoid conceding facts that don't adhere to your preferred narrative.

I'm simply going by what Spence said. When interviewed, Thurman has said Spence isn't on his to do list. Porter said he was going the WBC route, and Danny Garcia only recently said he would fight Spence. He said Peterson was the only top guy they contacted that wanted the fight.

Can you "prove" that no representatives of Spence have submitted any offers to other fighters? As usual, you are an idiot on the forum that simply gets a charge out of playing the devil's advocate. You should try once to discuss who your favorite boxers are, why they won or lost, who you think is the best, etc. All you do is post links from shitt we can read ourselves, and demand people to prove what they say. When wrong, you never admit it. You once even claimed that a verbal agreement in the UK is legally binding for a contract.

Neither Spence Jr. nor any of his representatives have claimed that they have submitted offers for a fight between himself and the likes of Crawford, Garcia, Thurman, Porter etc.

Similarly, none of the aforementioned fighters have admitted to being contacted by Errol Spence Jr. or his representatives.

These are real-world facts that you cannot possibly refute.

Insulting me won't change the events that actually occurred in the real world. You cannot pretend that something happened when it clearly hasn't.

[boxing_rocks]

As usual, you are an idiot on the forum

No doubt about that, and Badhusker quoting the idiot and replying to him instead of putting on an ignore list should be punished by a 1-week ban !

[Enlightened-One]

As usual, you are an idiot on the forum

No doubt about that, and Badhusker quoting the idiot and replying to him instead of putting on an ignore list should be punished by a 1-week ban !

Stop behaving like a juvenile cheerleader, blindly applauding anyone on "your side", even if they're blatantly wrong.

[boxing_rocks]

Enlightened-One, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.

[siablo14]

From what I can see this kid Errol Spence is just a sucky hypejob, idiot should learn to fckn box and just go fck himself. Amazing how badly boxing sucks these days and then you have all the mOrons hyping up these fighters based on nationality or race or some stupid s like that, cheerleaders, wonder if they also help out in the dressingroom with changing oil and other such things.

Who is your current favourite?

[SenorPipino]

From what I can see this kid Errol Spence is just a sucky hypejob, idiot should learn to fckn box and just go fck himself. Amazing how badly boxing sucks these days and then you have all the mOrons hyping up these fighters based on nationality or race or some stupid s like that, cheerleaders, wonder if they also help out in the dressingroom with changing oil and other such things.

Who is your current favourite?

I was wondering the exact same thing.

Which non-sucky hype jobs in the dismally sucky world of professional boxing do you deign to be worthy of your approval?

Now excuse me while I go out and change the oil in Canelo and Deontay's cars.

[siablo14]

From what I can see this kid Errol Spence is just a sucky hypejob, idiot should learn to fckn box and just go fck himself. Amazing how badly boxing sucks these days and then you have all the mOrons hyping up these fighters based on nationality or race or some stupid s like that, cheerleaders, wonder if they also help out in the dressingroom with changing oil and other such things.

Who is your current favourite?

I was wondering the exact same thing.

Which non-sucky hype jobs in the dismally sucky world of professional boxing do you deign to be worthy of your approval?

Now excuse me while I go out and change the oil in Canelo and Deontay's cars.

:lol1: What brand oil they be using?

[SenorPipino]

Who is your current favourite?

I was wondering the exact same thing.

Which non-sucky hype jobs in the dismally sucky world of professional boxing do you deign to be worthy of your approval?

Now excuse me while I go out and change the oil in Canelo and Deontay's cars.

:lol1: What brand oil they be using?

Real expensive stuff. Something called Eneos Sustina. Synthetic, of course.

The worst part is that both of them have a fleet of autos, and I have to pay for all the oil.

Well, I don't really have to pay, but I do it (as RandomUserName smartly realizes) because I'm one of those moron cheerleaders. I wish I was important enough to clean their dressing rooms but I'm not allowed in.

[siablo14]

I was wondering the exact same thing.

Which non-sucky hype jobs in the dismally sucky world of professional boxing do you deign to be worthy of your approval?

Now excuse me while I go out and change the oil in Canelo and Deontay's cars.

:lol1: What brand oil they be using?

Real expensive stuff. Something called Eneos Sustina. Synthetic, of course.

The worst part is that both of them have a fleet of autos, and I have to pay for all the oil.

Well, I don't really have to pay, but I do it (as RandomUserName smartly realizes) because I'm one of those moron cheerleaders. I wish I was important enough to clean their dressing rooms but I'm not allowed in.

The randomuser guy is just jealous because you are hanging with the stars.

[Badhusker]

What phone calls? You're pretending something happened without possessing any evidence whatsoever to corroborate your theory.

Be honest, you know I'm right, but you just don't want to admit it, so you make stuff up to avoid conceding facts that don't adhere to your preferred narrative.

I'm simply going by what Spence said. When interviewed, Thurman has said Spence isn't on his to do list. Porter said he was going the WBC route, and Danny Garcia only recently said he would fight Spence. He said Peterson was the only top guy they contacted that wanted the fight.

Can you "prove" that no representatives of Spence have submitted any offers to other fighters? As usual, you are an idiot on the forum that simply gets a charge out of playing the devil's advocate. You should try once to discuss who your favorite boxers are, why they won or lost, who you think is the best, etc. All you do is post links from shitt we can read ourselves, and demand people to prove what they say. When wrong, you never admit it. You once even claimed that a verbal agreement in the UK is legally binding for a contract.

Neither Spence Jr. nor any of his representatives have claimed that they have submitted offers for a fight between himself and the likes of Crawford, Garcia, Thurman, Porter etc.

Similarly, none of the aforementioned fighters have admitted to being contacted by Errol Spence Jr. or his representatives.

These are real-world facts that you cannot possibly refute.

Insulting me won't change the events that actually occurred in the real world. You cannot pretend that something happened when it clearly hasn't.

For the record, Boxing Rocks, I do have EO on ignore, and you too. You are a different kind of idiot. Go ahead and beg for me to get banned, you fornicating dumbass.

EO, since insulting you won't work, how about proving that no contact has ever been sent by team Spence to any opponents? You will have trouble with that, I'm sure. Only come back when you have proof.
By the way, what you think is insulting, is only honest feelings based on facts from not only me, but many others that frequent this site. You are careful enough to not get banned again like you have before is the only difference. The mods have either loosened their criteria for banning, or maybe just tired of banning you.

[boxing_rocks]

Badhusker, it looks like you are another idiot. One week ban was an obvious joke.