George Groves (WBA) vs. Callum Smith - June 2nd 2018

[wesshaw1985]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Smith's reach advantage could win him the fight.

[jamamb]

whats callums reach advantage? tbh i dont think of him as a guy who really uses the reach all that great

even though hes tall hes more of a hooker and guy who likes to get in there, especially to the body

skoglund did some good work with the jab and i dont think hes on groves level

[Ruthless-RKO]

whats callums reach advantage? tbh i dont think of him as a guy who really uses the reach all that great

even though hes tall hes more of a hooker and guy who likes to get in there, especially to the body

Used his jab well tonight. I understand Groves is a much better boxer than Holzken.

[Covfefe]

Good fight this.

A few years ago I’d like Groves for this everyday but Smith's relative freshness will be a big factor for me. Groves is a very old 29 at this point.

[jamamb]

i think groves would win a jab battle. ppl often just reduce a jab to reach but thats very simplisitc. groves imo is clearly a better 'boxer'. but i think callum is sturdier and he can really whip those hooks in, especially to the body.

callum a harder and far more technically sharp puncher than eubank imo. stamina seems good too. a bit plodding and lacking in head movement though on the down side.

callum was my pre-tourney fav and i guess ill stick with him. like i said in another thread, i think hes brought his best performances for his best competition.

[Twinkle Toes]

Groves is the better boxer and by quite the margin. How can Smith beat him? - He'd have to show something he hasn't up to now.

I've not been overly impressed with Smith in his recent fights. Not saying he can't raise his game, but Groves is better than him at everything.

[jamamb]

btw are shoulder dislocations something that cause long term damage?

[Ruthless-RKO]

btw are shoulder dislocations something that cause long term damage?

Good chance it can come out again..

[wesshaw1985]

btw are shoulder dislocations something that cause long term damage?

I think once you've had the problem before you are always susceptible to it happening again...

[Counter-puncher]

i think groves would win a jab battle. ppl often just reduce a jab to reach but thats very simplisitc.

Yup. Foot speed and placement. Skoglund out jabbed Smith for long periods and he is 3 inches shorter, just much quicker on his feet

[Counter-puncher]

I'd like to see Groves slam the right hand to smiths body opening the upright Smith for the overhand right

[craigjenkins05]

Think groves will jab his head off for a while but think smith could get him with body shots I was suprised to hear groves say smiths main attribute is his power I don't think smith is a massive power just whips monster hooks to the body

[littlepug]

Grove to pound out a points win

[wesshaw1985]

[mickey1975]

i think groves would win a jab battle. ppl often just reduce a jab to reach but thats very simplisitc. groves imo is clearly a better 'boxer'. but i think callum is sturdier and he can really whip those hooks in, especially to the body.

callum a harder and far more technically sharp puncher than eubank imo. stamina seems good too. a bit plodding and lacking in head movement though on the down side.

callum was my pre-tourney fav and i guess ill stick with him. like i said in another thread, i think hes brought his best performances for his best competition.

Groves hits harder.

[wesshaw1985]

[jamamb]

whats going on there

[wesshaw1985]

whats going on there

its from the Frampton vs. Quigg weigh ins.
Just remembering Tesco Joe and Shane aren't on the best terms.
Should make the build up fun...

[Terminator666]

From what I’ve read on the nhs website- it says up to three months without using the shoulder in sporting activities - so as long as the shoulder was ok in three months from now, then he can start training and time wise things would be ok for the final

[bigjack]

btw are shoulder dislocations something that cause long term damage?

I'd say if it's dislocated once it's more likely to go again,plus it may discourage some fighters from throwing the punch in the future.

[bigjack]

From what I’ve read on the nhs website- it says up to three months without using the shoulder in sporting activities - so as long as the shoulder was ok in three months from now, then he can start training and time wise things would be ok for the final

That would only give him a couple of weeks at most for sparring etc so it would be wise to postpone if that's at all possible.

[Counter-puncher]

btw are shoulder dislocations something that cause long term damage?

I'd say if it's dislocated once it's more likely to go again,plus it may discourage some fighters from throwing the punch in the future.

That's a really good point. Buddy Mcgirt had problems with his shoulder- I don't know if it was a dislocation or what- but he became almost a one-armed fighter, seemed to stop throwing the left hook at all (his trainer screaming at him to 't'row da fucken hook!' at Whitaker)

[Terminator666]

From what I’ve read on the nhs website- it says up to three months without using the shoulder in sporting activities - so as long as the shoulder was ok in three months from now, then he can start training and time wise things would be ok for the final

That would only give him a couple of weeks at most for sparring etc so it would be wise to postpone if that's at all possible.

Yeah - he probably would be ok to fight in 6 months which is usually the norm for top fighters rather than every three months

[wesshaw1985]