Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

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Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

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Povetkin
Whyte / Browne winner
Miller ( assuming he beats Duhaupas)
Breazeale
Pulev

Personally I'd like to see Wilder vs Povetkin or Pulev. :OhYes:
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Kubrat Pulev. He'd be a stylistic nightmare for Deontay Wilder.
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Alexander Povetkin...

He's also a 38-year old man by now -- so the fight is right up his ally....
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Luis Fernando12 wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 04:30 Kubrat Pulev. He'd be a stylistic nightmare for Deontay Wilder.
:TU: That is what I thought too. :OhYes:
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Kalan wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 05:17 Alexander Povetkin...

He's also a 38-year old man by now -- so the fight is right up his ally....
:lol: Povetkin is old but his resume is top notch. He'd be a good scalp for Mr Windmiller. :OhYes:
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I really don't think Pulev would be interested in fighting Wilder. He seems happy taking on people he knows he can beat. It might sound harsh but I think Klitschko was the cure for Pulev's ambitions.

I'd be happy to see a Breazeale fight. Neither of them have great technique. Breazeale is a tough mother and has as good a chance of surviving Wilder's right handers as anyone, I see him as an American version of Johann Duhaupas. He may be an improvement on Duhaupas who gave Deontay one of his hardest fights.

Deontay has better speed and mobility and that's what should win him the fight.

Miller might be a tougher fight to predict than Breazeale. His relentless walking down would certainty ask questions of Deontay but he doesn't seem too difficult to hit, and he would have to eat a lot right hands. Miller seems to have good stamina and a good chin, but is his chin good enough to withstand Wilder's bombs ... that's another question?

What? You want me to suggest an opponent that has an equal chance of beating him? Well then we're talking Joshua aren't we.
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I think Jerrell Miller beats Deontay.... I believe he lays him out.
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apollo creed wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 05:35
Kalan wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 05:17 Alexander Povetkin...

He's also a 38-year old man by now -- so the fight is right up his ally....
:lol: Povetkin is old but his resume is top notch. He'd be a good scalp for Mr Windmiller. :OhYes:
That's the trouble. I fear Povetkin is now just a scalp and I think Eddie has his eye on him as a next opponent (assuming AJ gets past Parker) - why?

1. Povetkin is a great name to have in the win column of your resumé.
2. He's not looking very much of a threat these days.
3. Would get one monkey (WBA) of his back for a while, maybe two (WBO).

If Wilder gets to him first and beats him I can just hear some of the posters on here ... "Isn't it funny how Povetkin was the bogeyman. Deontay was lucky he didn't get to fight him in Moscow that time, now the fight's happening / Now Wilder's Knocked him TF out, now those same jokers are playing down Povetkin and saying he's old"

Well guess what guys - every fighter has a shelf-life so I'm saying it now before any match involving him gets made, and that is: "Povetkin has been an elite level heavyweight for many years but beating him now won't mean anything like what it would have done just a couple of years back - but it will look great on any fighter's record".
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Breazeale. He had some issues with Wilder outside the ring, which had created the talk about their possible bout. And Breazeale is highly rated today. So let it happen, cause AJ must fight Povetkin, after they both walk through Parker and Price respectively.
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candyslim wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 06:34
apollo creed wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 05:35
Kalan wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 05:17 Alexander Povetkin...

He's also a 38-year old man by now -- so the fight is right up his ally....
:lol: Povetkin is old but his resume is top notch. He'd be a good scalp for Mr Windmiller. :OhYes:
That's the trouble. I fear Povetkin is now just a scalp and I think Eddie has his eye on him as a next opponent (assuming AJ gets past Parker) - why?

1. Povetkin is a great name to have in the win column of your resumé.
2. He's not looking very much of a threat these days.
3. Would get one monkey (WBA) of his back for a while, maybe two (WBO).

If Wilder gets to him first and beats him I can just hear some of the posters on here ... "Isn't it funny how Povetkin was the bogeyman. Deontay was lucky he didn't get to fight him in Moscow that time, now the fight's happening / Now Wilder's Knocked him TF out, now those same jokers are playing down Povetkin and saying he's old"

Well guess what guys - every fighter has a shelf-life so I'm saying it now before any match involving him gets made, and that is: "Povetkin has been an elite level heavyweight for many years but beating him now won't mean anything like what it would have done just a couple of years back - but it will look great on any fighter's record".
Good points. Nowadays Povetkin is just a good name to have on your resume. He is old and faded.
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DrDuke wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 06:53 Breazeale. He had some issues with Wilder outside the ring, which had created the talk about their possible bout. And Breazeale is highly rated today. So let it happen, cause AJ must fight Povetkin, after they both walk through Parker and Price respectively.
Breazeale is decent.
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I really like Breazeale. He's not blessed with a whole lot of talent but he's a real fighting man and seems like a genuine nice guy too.
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apollo creed wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 07:26
candyslim wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 06:34
apollo creed wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 05:35

:lol: Povetkin is old but his resume is top notch. He'd be a good scalp for Mr Windmiller. :OhYes:
That's the trouble. I fear Povetkin is now just a scalp and I think Eddie has his eye on him as a next opponent (assuming AJ gets past Parker) - why?

1. Povetkin is a great name to have in the win column of your resumé.
2. He's not looking very much of a threat these days.
3. Would get one monkey (WBA) of his back for a while, maybe two (WBO).

If Wilder gets to him first and beats him I can just hear some of the posters on here ... "Isn't it funny how Povetkin was the bogeyman. Deontay was lucky he didn't get to fight him in Moscow that time, now the fight's happening / Now Wilder's Knocked him TF out, now those same jokers are playing down Povetkin and saying he's old"

Well guess what guys - every fighter has a shelf-life so I'm saying it now before any match involving him gets made, and that is: "Povetkin has been an elite level heavyweight for many years but beating him now won't mean anything like what it would have done just a couple of years back - but it will look great on any fighter's record".
Good points. Nowadays Povetkin is just a good name to have on your resume. He is old and faded.
Cannot happen, the lawsuit is not resolved yet...Wilder will receive his 4.5 million dollars anyhow, so why bother fighting?
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1. Povetkin. Faded, but still top-5 fighter with very good offensive skills

2. Whyte. Easy and quick KO win for Wilder will add more intrigue to his future mega fight with AJ
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bigman1968 wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 08:22
apollo creed wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 07:26
candyslim wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 06:34

That's the trouble. I fear Povetkin is now just a scalp and I think Eddie has his eye on him as a next opponent (assuming AJ gets past Parker) - why?

1. Povetkin is a great name to have in the win column of your resumé.
2. He's not looking very much of a threat these days.
3. Would get one monkey (WBA) of his back for a while, maybe two (WBO).

If Wilder gets to him first and beats him I can just hear some of the posters on here ... "Isn't it funny how Povetkin was the bogeyman. Deontay was lucky he didn't get to fight him in Moscow that time, now the fight's happening / Now Wilder's Knocked him TF out, now those same jokers are playing down Povetkin and saying he's old"

Well guess what guys - every fighter has a shelf-life so I'm saying it now before any match involving him gets made, and that is: "Povetkin has been an elite level heavyweight for many years but beating him now won't mean anything like what it would have done just a couple of years back - but it will look great on any fighter's record".
Good points. Nowadays Povetkin is just a good name to have on your resume. He is old and faded.
Cannot happen, the lawsuit is not resolved yet...Wilder will receive his 4.5 million dollars anyhow, so why bother fighting?
Yes he probably will but I don't see that as being an insurmountable obstacle, it may not even be regarded as connected (i.e. two totally separate and distinct issues contested by the same individuals)

Why fight him? See points 1 and 2 of my previous post above. Also a lot of the (justified) criticism about Wilder has (quite rightly) evaporated since his win over Ortiz, but there remains a feeling among many that Povetkin was a victim of politics. That even if Wilder wanted the fight there were powerful people that were against it going ahead lest Wilder should lose. Fighting him now would go some way to answering those critics and now, or soon, may be exactly the right time while his fading effectiveness hasn't detracted too much from his reputation.
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Right now, I can imagine Wilder defeated by :
1. Extremely hard hitting fighter with at least a solid chin (Anthony Joshua, only)
2. Extremely skillful fighter with an excellent stamina (nowadays, there is noone at HW, I think about someone like Usyk, but much bigger)...............
3. Fit/healthy/active Tyson Fury

So, I would like to see Wilder against Miller or Whyte, and I expect fast KO/TKO win for Wilder.
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apollo creed wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 04:26 Povetkin
Whyte / Browne winner
Miller ( assuming he beats Duhaupas)
Breazeale
Pulev

Personally I'd like to see Wilder vs Povetkin or Pulev. :OhYes:
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Either Fury, Junglong Zhang, Breazeale, Kownacki, Takam, Rivas.

I personally would also like to see him against Spong, Trey Lippe, Dubois, Efe Ajagba, but I can understand that would never generate enough money.
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Considering the massive dearth of talent in this current incarnation of the division, there's actually very few attractive options for Wilder following his first good win. It's no longer his fault though.

Povetkin or Pulev would probably be the best options. Pulev is a far superior boxer, but can his chin last twelve rounds? I highly doubt it but if he's able to not get knocked out it would be a hard fight for Wilder stylistically. Povetkin is likely still in the top four or five best active heavyweights so that also works.

Aside from those two, the ranked contenders are really abysmally terrible. Now that he's finally stepped out of his comfort zone I will no longer blame Wilder for his poor resume; the lack of talent has never been more clear, so fighting someone like Miller/Duhaupus, , Browne/Whyte, Breazeale, Takam, Oquendo/Char, etc etc etc will be fine no matter how depressing it is for the fans.
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I would say Breazeale because of their personal beef but I don't think it would last very long, I'd expect Wilder to beat Breazeale inside 4 rounds because anyone who lacks foot work, Wilder will destroy. Whyte on the other hand deserves a title shit in my opinion and isn't just coming for a pay cheque, he is motivated to becomes world champion and he may be able to take Wilders right hand because of how good his chin is, he can also throw decent combinations so I reckon Whyte if Joshua vs Wilder doesn't happen.
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punchoutsb wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 18:41 Considering the massive dearth of talent in this current incarnation of the division, there's actually very few attractive options for Wilder following his first good win. It's no longer his fault though.

Povetkin or Pulev would probably be the best options. Pulev is a far superior boxer, but can his chin last twelve rounds? I highly doubt it but if he's able to not get knocked out it would be a hard fight for Wilder stylistically. Povetkin is likely still in the top four or five best active heavyweights so that also works.

Aside from those two, the ranked contenders are really abysmally terrible. Now that he's finally stepped out of his comfort zone I will no longer blame Wilder for his poor resume; the lack of talent has never been more clear, so fighting someone like Miller/Duhaupus, , Browne/Whyte, Breazeale, Takam, Oquendo/Char, etc etc etc will be fine no matter how depressing it is for the fans.
That last paragraph depressed me. Probably because you're correct...
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Anybody in the Top 10 that he hasn't faced.

Jarrell Miller, Dillian Whyte, Povetkin, Pulev

Any one of those would be fine by me.
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Zhang Zhilei of China. .southpaw. . . 6'-6" and 250 lbs. . . . two time Olympian and Silver Medalist, . . undefeated pro and ranked #7 by WBO.
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actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:17 Zhang Zhilei of China. .southpaw. . . 6'-6" and 250 lbs. . . . two time Olympian and Silver Medalist, . . undefeated pro and ranked #7 by WBO.
LOL, I'm not sure we'll be seeing Wilder against another southpaw for a while. I've never seen Zhilei, can he really fight? or is he hype?
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