rating the hws since lewis
rating the hws since lewis
what would be your top 5?
for me:
1. aj
2. wlad
3. bryd
4. vitali
5. ?
for me:
1. aj
2. wlad
3. bryd
4. vitali
5. ?
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and about aj at 1, you may do a sh!tposting 'lol!' but actually think about it and consider before saying why im wrong:
abilities
excellent power and size
very good fundementals, with each punch being thrown almost textbook perfect. good sense of distance.
fast hands even though hes not fast on his feet
has every punch in the book, wheras guys like the klits for most of there careers only had straights
although he has had some stamina issues he showed excellent second winds, which a guy like wlad couldnt
obviously has plenty of heart in how he got through the wlad fight. chin is respectable too even though not iron clad.
compared to klits
now, some will say 'of look how much trouble he had with wlad, and wlad was old', but how about actually watching wlad there and comparing him to past fights. wlad gave everything and fought with all he had. he was in his best form perhaps ever and his brother said it was his best fight. that wlad was miles better for example then the one who beat jennings, right before wlad fought fury
and look at all the guys wlad had problems with, who are really no better then guys aj is winning pretty much all rounds vs and stopping
vitali relied a lot on height and he wouldnt have had that vs aj, and aj was vastly bigger punching, faster, better fundementals, doesnt cut as easily etc, and is plenty tough himself.
his record
already got wlad, whyte, takam, breazeale, johnson (one of vitalis challengers)
by saturday likely: wlad, parker, whyte, takam, breazeale, etc
hes arguably already at vitali level and isnt far off at all from wlad. remember aj is not even 5 years into his career yet.
abilities
excellent power and size
very good fundementals, with each punch being thrown almost textbook perfect. good sense of distance.
fast hands even though hes not fast on his feet
has every punch in the book, wheras guys like the klits for most of there careers only had straights
although he has had some stamina issues he showed excellent second winds, which a guy like wlad couldnt
obviously has plenty of heart in how he got through the wlad fight. chin is respectable too even though not iron clad.
compared to klits
now, some will say 'of look how much trouble he had with wlad, and wlad was old', but how about actually watching wlad there and comparing him to past fights. wlad gave everything and fought with all he had. he was in his best form perhaps ever and his brother said it was his best fight. that wlad was miles better for example then the one who beat jennings, right before wlad fought fury
and look at all the guys wlad had problems with, who are really no better then guys aj is winning pretty much all rounds vs and stopping
vitali relied a lot on height and he wouldnt have had that vs aj, and aj was vastly bigger punching, faster, better fundementals, doesnt cut as easily etc, and is plenty tough himself.
his record
already got wlad, whyte, takam, breazeale, johnson (one of vitalis challengers)
by saturday likely: wlad, parker, whyte, takam, breazeale, etc
hes arguably already at vitali level and isnt far off at all from wlad. remember aj is not even 5 years into his career yet.
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Since Lennox?
Vitali would be my number one - Wladimir the number two.
Then I suppose you'd be looking at the likes of AJ, Povetkin, Chagaev, Haye, Byrd, Ibragimov, Sam Peter.
Vitali would be my number one - Wladimir the number two.
Then I suppose you'd be looking at the likes of AJ, Povetkin, Chagaev, Haye, Byrd, Ibragimov, Sam Peter.
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Byrd before Vitali
I know he beat him on an injury but Vitali was better than Byrd man!
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1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. T. Fury
4. Joshua
5. Povetkin
2. Vitali
3. T. Fury
4. Joshua
5. Povetkin
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Vitali
Wlad
AJ
Fury/Povetkin
Wilder
Can't think of anymore tbh. It's a good question and makes you think about how awful the division has been since Lewis wrapped it. It's also pretty hard to judge as well because Vitali and Wlad were so dominant for so long. I think that's why I have 3/4 guys from today in the list when maybe they arguably don't deserve to be there
Wlad
AJ
Fury/Povetkin
Wilder
Can't think of anymore tbh. It's a good question and makes you think about how awful the division has been since Lewis wrapped it. It's also pretty hard to judge as well because Vitali and Wlad were so dominant for so long. I think that's why I have 3/4 guys from today in the list when maybe they arguably don't deserve to be there
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tigermoth87
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Re: rating the hws since lewis
Vitali
Wlad
Fury
Povetkin
Joshua
Wlad
Fury
Povetkin
Joshua
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: rating the hws since lewis
On results there's no way it can be anyone but Wlad at number 1.
Wlad
Vitali
AJ - but still early days
Haye - but he's a distant 4th
If AJ beats Wilder, and hangs on to his belts for a significant length of time, and fights the best of his era, he can yet leapfrog Wlad.
Vitali is probably the best fighter since Lewis, but unfortunately his level of opponent was generally poor, and he lost a few years to inactivity and injury which held him back.
Wlad
Vitali
AJ - but still early days
Haye - but he's a distant 4th
If AJ beats Wilder, and hangs on to his belts for a significant length of time, and fights the best of his era, he can yet leapfrog Wlad.
Vitali is probably the best fighter since Lewis, but unfortunately his level of opponent was generally poor, and he lost a few years to inactivity and injury which held him back.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: rating the hws since lewis
surely you can't have Fury so high based on one decent win, though I suppose you could say the same about Joshua.
I've kind of forgotten about Fury, it's so long now since he actually fought, that I don't even have him in mind.
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Yep I'd agree with that list.
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Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Anthony Joshua
Alexander Povetkin
Deontay Wilder
Vitali Klitschko
Anthony Joshua
Alexander Povetkin
Deontay Wilder
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Since lewis?
Wlad
Vitali
Fury
Joshua
Wilder
Thr top two here are the best and their record proves this,the other 3 are not in order of who sits were just they are in the top 5. Vitali would of been top but wlad held titles longer and was a better ambassador for the sport of boxing.
Wlad
Vitali
Fury
Joshua
Wilder
Thr top two here are the best and their record proves this,the other 3 are not in order of who sits were just they are in the top 5. Vitali would of been top but wlad held titles longer and was a better ambassador for the sport of boxing.
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Wlad
Joshua
Fury
Vitali
Povetkin
Then Wilder, Byrd, Brewster, Haye and a whole load of mediocre others
Joshua
Fury
Vitali
Povetkin
Then Wilder, Byrd, Brewster, Haye and a whole load of mediocre others
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wlad
vitali
joshua
fury
wilder
vitali
joshua
fury
wilder
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good, you agree with me after movements then!
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Boxerbeetle
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1. Wlad
2. Joshua
3. Vitali
4. Wilder
5. Haye
And I don’t rate half of them
2. Joshua
3. Vitali
4. Wilder
5. Haye
And I don’t rate half of them
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1 - Vitali
2 - Wlad
3 - Joshua
Wilder
5 - Pick'em
2 - Wlad
3 - Joshua
Wilder
5 - Pick'em
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Yes We Can
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Re: rating the hws since lewis
Wladamir
Vitali
AJ
Fury
Povetkin.
Vitali
AJ
Fury
Povetkin.
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dr_devious
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Re: rating the hws since lewis
Vitali
Vlad
Joshua
Fury
Povetkin
Vlad
Joshua
Fury
Povetkin
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ThereByTheGrace
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Re: rating the hws since lewis
Vitali
Vlad
Fury
Wilder
Aj
Vlad
Fury
Wilder
Aj
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@ny ..and whytes better then aj and wilder right

whats your top 5? is big dill in there?
whats your top 5? is big dill in there?
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bit surprised its so heavly concentrated with pov, wilder, and fury for the picks other then the klits and aj
how do we order the next best group then with guys like bryd, rahman,brewster haye , ruiz, as possibilities
how do we order the next best group then with guys like bryd, rahman,brewster haye , ruiz, as possibilities