Tyson Fury vs. TBA - April 2018

[wesshaw1985]

BT/allegedly was meant to be 20 shows a year - we’ve had 1 so far this year in UK.

With one scheduled for April.

A third of the year gone - two shows. In a word - pathetic.

Agreed.
W@rren should have at least been putting on small hall shows with his London prospects.
He needs to step his game up...

[mickey1975]

Canelo v Beefy, huge global audience, stadium fight, p4p top 5 fighter....

Yeah mate - the casuals can't get enough of Beefy.

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

[dirk2686]

Canelo v Beefy, huge global audience, stadium fight, p4p top 5 fighter....

Yeah mate - the casuals can't get enough of Beefy.

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

Massive mate - all the lads in the office who casually follow it were saying how much like Mayweather McGregor it was.

[mickey1975]

Yeah mate - the casuals can't get enough of Beefy.

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

Massive mate - all the lads in the office who casually follow it were saying how much like Mayweather McGregor it was.

I'm surprised they weren't too busy talking about huge SKY BLOCKBUSTERS like Crolla-Burns.

[Rob3_142]

What a massive surprise.

Like Joshua was gonna go; "Naaah, mate. Hearn's rubbish. Sign with Frank."

Maybe he wants hearn to sign fury so he can avoid him, similar to what hearn did with Ortiz

I'm not sure what the bigger blocker would be, both fighters being with Matchroom, or one with Matchroom and the other BN.

[Rob3_142]

Great way to push fury into the w arren camp.

Doesn't matter what happens. If Fury wants the Joshua fight it's happening on Joshua's terms and almost without question on Sky. Simply when it comes to generating money they are light years apart.

wouldn't you say BT are light years ahead of Sky in terms of money for sport?
If BT want this fight they have the ability to pay for the fight, should they wish to do so...

I think the likelihood is that it would be on Sky. Sky have a recognised PPV model and generate more through PPV on average.

Not saying BT couldn't put their hand in their pocket, because they definitely could, but I would be surprised if they did.

BT would have to put forward millions to get the fight on BT Sports, which I don't believe they will see as business sense.

[wesshaw1985]

Doesn't matter what happens. If Fury wants the Joshua fight it's happening on Joshua's terms and almost without question on Sky. Simply when it comes to generating money they are light years apart.

wouldn't you say BT are light years ahead of Sky in terms of money for sport?
If BT want this fight they have the ability to pay for the fight, should they wish to do so...

I think the likelihood is that it would be on Sky. Sky have a recognised PPV model and generate more through PPV on average.

Not saying BT couldn't put their hand in their pocket, because they definitely could, but I would be surprised if they did.

BT would have to put forward millions to get the fight on BT Sports, which I don't believe they will see as business sense.

Very true.
It will, more than likely, end up on Sky,
I was just making the point that if BT wanted to get into boxing they have very deep pockets and could make a play to stage the fight if they so wished. Unlikely however...

[maverick23]

Canelo v Beefy, huge global audience, stadium fight, p4p top 5 fighter....

Yeah mate - the casuals can't get enough of Beefy.

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

[mickey1975]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

[samwbr]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

What were the viewing figures for both fights? Less than 100k each time?

[mickey1975]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

What were the viewing figures for both fights? Less than 100k each time?

Surely Canelo does more than that in Mexico alone. Khan in Pakistan? Millions, I'd guess.

[samwbr]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

What were the viewing figures for both fights? Less than 100k each time?

Surely Canelo does more than that in Mexico alone. Khan in Pakistan? Millions, I'd guess.

Thought this was about UK tv?

[dirk2686]

What were the viewing figures for both fights? Less than 100k each time?

Surely Canelo does more than that in Mexico alone. Khan in Pakistan? Millions, I'd guess.

Thought this was about UK tv?

It is, bearing in mind it's about Sky and BT.

Mick is the sort of bloke who'd say something like 'Eddie Chambers is a guy who can sell out massive stadiums' and then defend himself by saying he did so against Klitschko.

[mickey1975]

Surely Canelo does more than that in Mexico alone. Khan in Pakistan? Millions, I'd guess.

Thought this was about UK tv?

It is, bearing in mind it's about Sky and BT.

Mick is the sort of bloke who'd say something like 'Eddie Chambers is a guy who can sell out massive stadiums' and then defend himself by saying he did so against Klitschko.

And you're the sort of guy so OBSESSED
with Fury you've forgotten a load of huge fights, one last month, simply because they weren't on Sky! I'd imagine you're not a boxing fan, just an AJ casual, hence the desperation for Tyson to be banned.

[Deserter]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

I’m going off on a tangent, but for what it’s worth I was at that fight and i’m far from convinced Canelo is the draw he’s portrayed to be. Took place in Vegas on Cinco de Mayo yet was far from a sell-out and plenty of tickets going cheap in the days before the fight.

[maverick23]

Canelo v Beefy, huge global audience, stadium fight, p4p top 5 fighter....

Yeah mate - the casuals can't get enough of Beefy.

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

It wasn’t a big fight in the UK. It did less than 70,000 views and that’s not on a PPV platform.

I would say the only huge fight for the UK that’s not been on Sky is Eubank v Groves and ITV made a complete mess of it.

Unfortunately no-one, other than Sky, has shown the ability to properly promote and service a big UK PPV fight.

BT may have the champions league rights but they’ve yet to do anything on PPV and it would be a huge gamble for fighters like AJ and Fury to trust that they’d deliver it as well as Sky could and currently do.

[dirk2686]

Thought this was about UK tv?

It is, bearing in mind it's about Sky and BT.

Mick is the sort of bloke who'd say something like 'Eddie Chambers is a guy who can sell out massive stadiums' and then defend himself by saying he did so against Klitschko.

And you're the sort of guy so OBSESSED
with Fury you've forgotten a load of huge fights, one last month, simply because they weren't on Sky! I'd imagine you're not a boxing fan, just an AJ casual, hence the desperation for Tyson to be banned.

Fury's only big fight was on Sky? You forgetting something here Mick?

[mickey1975]

Yeah mate - the casuals can't get enough of Beefy.

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

It wasn’t a big fight in the UK. It did less than 70,000 views and that’s not on a PPV platform.

I would say the only huge fight for the UK that’s not been on Sky is Eubank v Groves and ITV made a complete mess of it.

Unfortunately no-one, other than Sky, has shown the ability to properly promote and service a big UK PPV fight.

BT may have the champions league rights but they’ve yet to do anything on PPV and it would be a huge gamble for fighters like AJ and Fury to trust that they’d deliver it as well as Sky could and currently do.

Canelo v GGG was PPV.

[maverick23]

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

It wasn’t a big fight in the UK. It did less than 70,000 views and that’s not on a PPV platform.

I would say the only huge fight for the UK that’s not been on Sky is Eubank v Groves and ITV made a complete mess of it.

Unfortunately no-one, other than Sky, has shown the ability to properly promote and service a big UK PPV fight.

BT may have the champions league rights but they’ve yet to do anything on PPV and it would be a huge gamble for fighters like AJ and Fury to trust that they’d deliver it as well as Sky could and currently do.

Canelo v GGG was PPV.

I didn’t say it wasn’t PPV but it had far less than 100,000 buys. Brook v Golovkin did substantially more on Sky.

Would you say less than 100,000 PPV buys for a fight like that is a success and shows allegedly PPV has the ability to deliver a huge fight properly like Joshua v Fury?

[ewenhay]

Yeah mate - the casuals can't get enough of Beefy.

So a Canelo fight involving a Brit wasn't a big fight?

It wasn’t a big fight in the UK. It did less than 70,000 views and that’s not on a PPV platform.

I would say the only huge fight for the UK that’s not been on Sky is Eubank v Groves and ITV made a complete mess of it.

Unfortunately no-one, other than Sky, has shown the ability to properly promote and service a big UK PPV fight.

BT may have the champions league rights but they’ve yet to do anything on PPV and it would be a huge gamble for fighters like AJ and Fury to trust that they’d deliver it as well as Sky could and currently do.

That's fair comment. Whilst bt have the wherewithal to afford such an event sky do have the proven track record

[Rob3_142]

It wasn’t a big fight in the UK. It did less than 70,000 views and that’s not on a PPV platform.

I would say the only huge fight for the UK that’s not been on Sky is Eubank v Groves and ITV made a complete mess of it.

Unfortunately no-one, other than Sky, has shown the ability to properly promote and service a big UK PPV fight.

BT may have the champions league rights but they’ve yet to do anything on PPV and it would be a huge gamble for fighters like AJ and Fury to trust that they’d deliver it as well as Sky could and currently do.

Canelo v GGG was PPV.

I didn’t say it wasn’t PPV but it had far less than 100,000 buys. Brook v Golovkin did substantially more on Sky.

Would you say less than 100,000 PPV buys for a fight like that is a success and shows allegedly PPV has the ability to deliver a huge fight properly like Joshua v Fury?

Plus it was a fight which took place in the States, which means middle of the night here, so always going to draw a smaller crowd.

[mickey1975]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

I’m going off on a tangent, but for what it’s worth I was at that fight and i’m far from convinced Canelo is the draw he’s portrayed to be. Took place in Vegas on Cinco de Mayo yet was far from a sell-out and plenty of tickets going cheap in the days before the fight.

You can get in AJ tomorrow night well below face value, too. Touts have lost out big time again.

[dirk2686]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

I’m going off on a tangent, but for what it’s worth I was at that fight and i’m far from convinced Canelo is the draw he’s portrayed to be. Took place in Vegas on Cinco de Mayo yet was far from a sell-out and plenty of tickets going cheap in the days before the fight.

You can get in AJ tomorrow night well below face value, too. Touts have lost out big time again.

Maybe, but you've been caught talking bollocks about attendances plenty of times here in the past so I don't know how trustworthy you are. Takes a very pissed man to look at twenty thousand people and only see a sixth of them.

[mickey1975]

I’m going off on a tangent, but for what it’s worth I was at that fight and i’m far from convinced Canelo is the draw he’s portrayed to be. Took place in Vegas on Cinco de Mayo yet was far from a sell-out and plenty of tickets going cheap in the days before the fight.

You can get in AJ tomorrow night well below face value, too. Touts have lost out big time again.

Maybe, but you've been caught talking bollocks about attendances plenty of times here in the past so I don't know how trustworthy you are. Takes a very pissed man to look at twenty thousand people and only see a sixth of them.

Who 'caught' me? When?

[maverick23]

Canelo-Khan obviously not good enough, either....

I’m going off on a tangent, but for what it’s worth I was at that fight and i’m far from convinced Canelo is the draw he’s portrayed to be. Took place in Vegas on Cinco de Mayo yet was far from a sell-out and plenty of tickets going cheap in the days before the fight.

You can get in AJ tomorrow night well below face value, too. Touts have lost out big time again.

Again I’m not really sure what the fact that some people that bought for resale are struggling to sell when they’ve sold the vast bulk of 80,000 tickets has to do with this.

Canelo v Khan sold 13k tickets (so didn’t get close to selling out the arena) and brought in $7m at the gate which, in Vegas terms, isn’t overly big. The Joshua fight tomorrow will be near double that at the gate.