Joshua v Parker

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Joshua v Parker

Post by nobleart1978 »

How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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70,000 Brits who don't really know much about boxing.. the remaining 10,000 are likely actually boxing fans.. hardcore.

Hearn is just milking the general public..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:07 70,000 Brits who don't really know much about boxing.. the remaining 10,000 are likely actually boxing fans.. hardcore.

Hearn is just milking the general public..
Most sports fans are like that though.
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I wouldn't go to a stadium fight no matter who was fighting,been to 3 in the past and the view from the cheap seats is terrible,usually the under card is poor too.Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua but can't fill a phone box so it must be down to the fast Eddie hype machine.
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bigjack wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:24 I wouldn't go to a stadium fight no matter who was fighting,been to 3 in the past and the view from the cheap seats is terrible,usually the under card is poor too.Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua but can't fill a phone box so it must be down to the fast Eddie hype machine.
Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.
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lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:35
bigjack wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:24 I wouldn't go to a stadium fight no matter who was fighting,been to 3 in the past and the view from the cheap seats is terrible,usually the under card is poor too.Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua but can't fill a phone box so it must be down to the fast Eddie hype machine.
Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.
I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull :maybe:
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bigjack wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:39
lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:35
bigjack wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:24 I wouldn't go to a stadium fight no matter who was fighting,been to 3 in the past and the view from the cheap seats is terrible,usually the under card is poor too.Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua but can't fill a phone box so it must be down to the fast Eddie hype machine.
Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.
I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull :maybe:
Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.
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Post by bigjack »

lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:42
bigjack wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:39
lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:35

Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.
I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull :maybe:
Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.
Maybe but because Wilder is vulnerable to a ko himself,that makes him more exciting to watch and will have an excellent chance of chinning Joshua should they meet.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:42
bigjack wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:39
lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:35

Can’t see how Wilder is far more exciting than Joshua. Are you basing that on the Wilder-Ortiz fight vs Joshua-Parker?

Vast majority of Wilder’s fights have been tedious! Joshua v Klitschko was ten times more exciting than anything Wilder has taken part in.
I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull :maybe:
Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.
He's basically fought bums just like Wilder has.
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Joshua has never looked in serious bother outside of a couple of rounds against Wlad and one punch from Whyte. Wilder seems to have a lot more problems against opposition that Joshua deals with pretty easily.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:52
lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:42
bigjack wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:39

I'm basing it on their last 2 fights,Wilder's were exciting,Joshua's were dull :maybe:
Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.
He's basically fought bums just like Wilder has.
Klitschko, Parker and Whyte are definitely not bums :doh:
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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nobleart1978 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !
Do you go to much live boxing?

The atmosphere at the Klitschko was on a par with prime Hatton for me. Hearn gets 80,000 fans at shows because he’s a good promoter and AJ is an excellent, usually exciting, heavyweight.

Also to say that AJ wouldn’t have got past Commonwealth/Euro level just isn’t right! Do you really think 6’4 Parker could lose over 2 and half stone to make cruiser?!?
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I meet the most random people who go to AJ fights. None regular fans.

Thing is it’s bringing money to our game. We just have to suck it up.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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nobleart1978 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !

Parker would have to lose a leg to make cruiser. You are talking bollocks.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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Parker has never been down even Joshua the number 1 Heavyweight in the world couldn’t put him down.

Joshua had never been 12 rounds , Parker took him 12 rounds .

Parker is definitely no bum and any fighter he faces will know they are going to be going 12 rounds.

So I want to see Parker vs Wilder after/if Wilder drops Joshua because I think Parker can outbox Wilder
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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rd350lc wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 15:45
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:52
lillywhite14 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:42

Touch short on which to judge to be fair! Joshua faced two tougher and better fighters.

Most of Wilders fights consist of him doing nothing for 3/4 rounds then landing a big, wild shot. Ortiz wasn’t exactly the thrilla in manilla! It had a couple of periods where it caught light but it wasn’t a patch on Joshua-Klitschko for example.

Joshua’s problem is, Wlad aside, he’s more or less been far too good for his opponents. Wilder has struggled with some very average fighters.
He's basically fought bums just like Wilder has.
Klitschko, Parker and Whyte are definitely not bums :doh:
Didn't say all, just most. Wlad was done. Are Parker and Where that much better than Ortiz?
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:11
rd350lc wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 15:45
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:52
He's basically fought bums just like Wilder has.
Klitschko, Parker and Whyte are definitely not bums :doh:
Didn't say all, just most. Wlad was done. Are Parker and Where that much better than Ortiz?
If done means he would have beaten any other boxer in the world other than Joshua, yes he was done.
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Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:12
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:11
rd350lc wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 15:45

Klitschko, Parker and Whyte are definitely not bums :doh:
Didn't say all, just most. Wlad was done. Are Parker and Where that much better than Ortiz?
If done means he would have beaten any other boxer in the world other than Joshua, yes he was done.
He beat a guy who would get kod by any good pro, if he couldn't hang all over them.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:17
Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:12
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:11
Didn't say all, just most. Wlad was done. Are Parker and Where that much better than Ortiz?
If done means he would have beaten any other boxer in the world other than Joshua, yes he was done.
He beat a guy who would get kod by any good pro, if he couldn't hang all over them.
Who would have beaten prime Wlad?
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Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:24
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:17
Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:12

If done means he would have beaten any other boxer in the world other than Joshua, yes he was done.
He beat a guy who would get kod by any good pro, if he couldn't hang all over them.
Who would have beaten prime Wlad?
The list is to long. His alleged prime was with Steward. He was getting laid out 8 years into his career. If being that far into his career isn't his prime.......Yes Steward allegedly took him to a new level. His alleged prime had him jabbing and clutching his opponents all night. Take away his clinchfests and that guy spends more time on his back than a cheap hooker.
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nobleart1978 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !
80,000 mugs?

I went to the Takem fight with my daughter who loved it. Cracking night with a great atmosphere. I also went to other fights like Bruno v Bugner in 1987, Benn v Eubank, Benn v McClellan, Bruno v McCall, Lewis v McCall and 22 other "world" title fights, small hall fights and also boxed as an amateur for a few years myself, so not some casual fan. Probably been to more shows than you.

I am also a huge critic of Matchroom and even unsubbed from sky sports for three years as not a fan of a lot of the mismatches BUT the reality is he gets fans out as he actually can promote and puts on a great night which you want to go to and you leave happy enough.

And to say Parker, a 6ft 4" guy with not much fat could shed over two stone to make cruiserweight is a fcking stupid statement.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:29
Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:24
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:17
He beat a guy who would get kod by any good pro, if he couldn't hang all over them.
Who would have beaten prime Wlad?
The list is to long. His alleged prime was with Steward. He was getting laid out 8 years into his career. If being that far into his career isn't his prime.......Yes Steward allegedly took him to a new level. His alleged prime had him jabbing and clutching his opponents all night. Take away his clinchfests and that guy spends more time on his back than a cheap hooker.
Indulge me, name some names. Proviso: his prime was when he learnt to keep his hands up.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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tobyh5 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:35
nobleart1978 wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 14:05 How on earth does Eddie Hearn keep pursuading 80,000 mugs to part with large amounts of cash to watch these rubbish fight nights ?

Joshua is " the son of Bruno" who would not have got past European/commonwealth level 30 odd years ago. Parker looked like he could make Cruiserweight with a proper training regime. All that talk of Maori warrior piffle!

What sort of people go all the way to Cardiff and sing "Oh Anthony Joshua" all through the fight. These people must have serious problems.

Can you imagine what both versions of Geoge Foreman would have done to both of these pretenders !
80,000 mugs?

I went to the Takem fight with my daughter who loved it. Cracking night with a great atmosphere. I also went to other fights like Bruno v Bugner in 1987, Benn v Eubank, Benn v McClellan, Bruno v McCall, Lewis v McCall and 22 other "world" title fights, small hall fights and also boxed as an amateur for a few years myself, so not some casual fan. Probably been to more shows than you.

I am also a huge critic of Matchroom and even unsubbed from sky sports for three years as not a fan of a lot of the mismatches BUT the reality is he gets fans out as he actually can promote and puts on a great night which you want to go to and you leave happy enough.

And to say Parker, a 6ft 4" guy with not much fat could shed over two stone to make cruiserweight is a fcking stupid statement.
Couldn't agree more. Just because a fight appeals to the masses it doesn't mean the masses are mugs.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 20:01
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:29
Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:24
Who would have beaten prime Wlad?
The list is to long. His alleged prime was with Steward. He was getting laid out 8 years into his career. If being that far into his career isn't his prime.......Yes Steward allegedly took him to a new level. His alleged prime had him jabbing and clutching his opponents all night. Take away his clinchfests and that guy spends more time on his back than a cheap hooker.
Indulge me, name some names. Proviso: his prime was when he learnt to keep his hands up.
Is hands up code for excessive clinching? His hands up had little to do with his success. In real non-clinchfests......Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lyle, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, McCall, Mercer, and his own brother. That's the short one.
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Re: Joshua v Parker

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MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 20:18
Gnome wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 20:01
MrGuy wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 19:29
The list is to long. His alleged prime was with Steward. He was getting laid out 8 years into his career. If being that far into his career isn't his prime.......Yes Steward allegedly took him to a new level. His alleged prime had him jabbing and clutching his opponents all night. Take away his clinchfests and that guy spends more time on his back than a cheap hooker.
Indulge me, name some names. Proviso: his prime was when he learnt to keep his hands up.
Is hands up code for excessive clinching? His hands up had little to do with his success. In real non-clinchfests......Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lyle, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, McCall, Mercer, and his own brother. That's the short one.
What are you on about? I'm talking about his contemporaries, not Ali and Foreman and their ilk. And McCall and Mercer wouldn't have won against Wlad, and the others are no sure things.
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