Yeah true mate. Cotto won the fight clear enough but Mosely did better than a lot of folk expected.IKSRTFO wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 09:52Stuarty wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 21:48I predicted that one as well. I think people just got too carried away with Margaritos win over Cotto at the time. Obviously Cotto had already beaten Mosely as well. That was a brutal finish in that one. Loved it. The last shot as the ref was jumping in was viciousIKSRTFO wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 20:36 Shane Mosley over Antonio Margarito. I never got why people thought Margacheato would beat Shane based on their attributes. People were saying Marg would walk through Shane and possibly stop him. Up to that point, Shane was known for having a pretty decent chin and he wasn't a soft hitter.![]()
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Cotto did beat Mosley but it wasn't like he dominated Mosley and if my memory is correct, it looked as if Cotto was more weary of Shane's power and willing to box than the other way around.
What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
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dagilechia
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Fonfara Chavez
Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
What do you think of Sulecki's chances against Danny Jacobs?
I personally think he's ultimately just not gonna be physically strong enough to beat Jacobs, but I think people will be surprised by his skill.
I think Sulecki may well be capable of giving a performance that raises his reputation even though I don't believe he's gonna win I've always liked him.
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Lennox Lewis v Razor Ruddock - I predicted he'd win on points; I never believed for one second he'd decimate Ruddock without breaking sweat.
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dagilechia
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Sulecki is again with his former trainer Andrzej Gmitruk, who also was a trainer of LHW and CW Tomasz Adamek, and i personally think Sulecki is the biggest talent in Poland since Adamek, he will surely come for win, for me it's a 65/35 Jacobs, i don't really think Jacobs will have significant size/strength advantage, until 2017 he fought in Middleweight (and there beaten Proksa and Centeno), he also had one fight in SMW. i think moving to SWW with his size was a bad choice and actually he is better in middleweight so i expect a better version of Sulecki than in Culcay fightgilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 13:20What do you think of Sulecki's chances against Danny Jacobs?
I personally think he's ultimately just not gonna be physically strong enough to beat Jacobs, but I think people will be surprised by his skill.
I think Sulecki may well be capable of giving a performance that raises his reputation even though I don't believe he's gonna win I've always liked him.
if i have to bet, i think Sulecki will outpoint Jacobs in first 3-4 rounds using superior footwork and good jab, in later rounds he will still doing his job but every round he will eat more and more punches to eventually being stopped late or loss a 116-112, 115-113 decision. biggest question is Suleckis chin, Culcay wobbled him once, almost had him down but i think it was more a problem in Suleckis head and how he came to this fight, was too self-confident, that fight teached him something and with Gmitruk in his corner this will just not happen, Jacobs showed nothing special in his last fight vs Arias, did not knocked him out, i think Sulecki beats Arias in similar fashion (but it doesnt mean much of course). Suleckis ko ratio is not impressive but in last few years he improved his power due to improving timing (before Culcay 7 ko streak including Proksa and Centeno)
he works with a great trainer in a good gym (same gym as Masternak, Ugonoh, Szpilka and few others)hes got sparring partners from USA, UK (Mark Heffron and Immanuwel Aleem) also a talented LHW prospect Pawel Stepien (http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/740621), also Damian Jonak (http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/348697) he also spars with Polish mma fighters
people outside Poland, not only casual fans but even some hardcore fans think ''oh, Jacobs will beat some unknown that comes for money, again'' while Sulecki and his camp is interested in nothing but win and will give 100%. i also expect crowd to in NY to support Sulecki rather than Jacobs
Sulecki surely got skills, talent, psychically tough, he works hard, he is not one-dimensional fighter, he is an underdog but he is able to beat Jacobs. even if he losses, it doesnt mean his end. after all, i cant see him losing in a really bad fashion, it gonna be toughest Jacobs fight except of Pirog and Golovkin
maybe i am wrong, maybe i am biased, but Sulecki is the unique Polish fighter i believe is able to beat the greatest fighters in his division. he was an underdog vs Proksa, was an underdog vs Centeno, Sulecki vs Culcay was seen by most as 50/50, he is an underdog again and once again will prove what is he worth
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
I picked Margarito over Cotto. I remembered wanting place money on Margatito as the odds were on Cotto pretty favorably iirc.
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
I had followed Oliver McCall quite a bit after he had his toe-to-toe awesome slugfest with Bruce Seldon, where he broke down a solid Seldon and TKO'ed him in the 9th round.
I thought he had an awesome chance at upsetting undefeated champion Lennox Lewis in their bout in England. I told my friends to expect a huge upset. And sure 'nuff - "Pa-POW!" Down goes Lewis in a heap with a beautiful counter by McCall! One punch and Lewis couldn't gain his footing after climbing up off the canvas, and the referee called a halt to the bout. One of the best counter punches ever in a heavyweight championship fight!
I was kind of hoping the referee would have allowed Lewis to continue. It would be been awesome to see little known McCall utterly destroy Lewis. Who knows what happened to McCall in the rematch a few years later. With his hands down and seemingly crying in the ring, he offered up free shots from Lewis, and the referee finally waved off McCall, who seemed to not want to put up any effort after the 3rd round.
My guess is Don king somehow "gypped" McCall into a bad contract for the fight, and the only way McCall could get back at King was to not fight at all.

I thought he had an awesome chance at upsetting undefeated champion Lennox Lewis in their bout in England. I told my friends to expect a huge upset. And sure 'nuff - "Pa-POW!" Down goes Lewis in a heap with a beautiful counter by McCall! One punch and Lewis couldn't gain his footing after climbing up off the canvas, and the referee called a halt to the bout. One of the best counter punches ever in a heavyweight championship fight!
I was kind of hoping the referee would have allowed Lewis to continue. It would be been awesome to see little known McCall utterly destroy Lewis. Who knows what happened to McCall in the rematch a few years later. With his hands down and seemingly crying in the ring, he offered up free shots from Lewis, and the referee finally waved off McCall, who seemed to not want to put up any effort after the 3rd round.
My guess is Don king somehow "gypped" McCall into a bad contract for the fight, and the only way McCall could get back at King was to not fight at all.
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Two
I predicted Hasim Rahman to KO Lennox Lewis (and wrote an article stating that on Oli Fennell's 'heavyweights' website, he didn't tell me I was ridiculous and actually ran it and was the only website to call the result!
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Sergio Martinez to beat Richard Williams - I saw Martinex box in Buenos Aires and thought 'man, this guy is shit hot!'
I predicted Hasim Rahman to KO Lennox Lewis (and wrote an article stating that on Oli Fennell's 'heavyweights' website, he didn't tell me I was ridiculous and actually ran it and was the only website to call the result!
Sergio Martinez to beat Richard Williams - I saw Martinex box in Buenos Aires and thought 'man, this guy is shit hot!'
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
I can name a hundred I got wrong for every long shot I missed.
Livingstone bramble over Manicini
Marquez over Pacquiao only because it had to eventually happen
Taylor over Hopkins
Livingstone bramble over Manicini
Marquez over Pacquiao only because it had to eventually happen
Taylor over Hopkins
Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Strange as it seems, McCall broke down and started crying on seeing Emanuel Steward in the opposite corner... He loved Steward as a coach and he was not an emotionally mature person... He never got over the fact that he knocked Lennox Lewis out in 2 rounds with Steward as his chief second and chief strategist in his corner... He wins the Heavyweight Championship - and Steward immediately leaves him for Lennox Lewis who he just knocked out quickly.HeavyHitters wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 16:12 I had followed Oliver McCall quite a bit after he had his toe-to-toe awesome slugfest with Bruce Seldon, where he broke down a solid Seldon and TKO'ed him in the 9th round.
I thought he had an awesome chance at upsetting undefeated champion Lennox Lewis in their bout in England. I told my friends to expect a huge upset. And sure 'nuff - "Pa-POW!" Down goes Lewis in a heap with a beautiful counter by McCall! One punch and Lewis couldn't gain his footing after climbing up off the canvas, and the referee called a halt to the bout. One of the best counter punches ever in a heavyweight championship fight!
I was kind of hoping the referee would have allowed Lewis to continue. It would be been awesome to see little known McCall utterly destroy Lewis. Who knows what happened to McCall in the rematch a few years later. With his hands down and seemingly crying in the ring, he offered up free shots from Lewis, and the referee finally waved off McCall, who seemed to not want to put up any effort after the 3rd round.
My guess is Don king somehow "gypped" McCall into a bad contract for the fight, and the only way McCall could get back at King was to not fight at all.
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Shitt like this happens to people, but some people can't handle it.
Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Foreman over Moorer. I didn't like Moorer's often lazy approach at heavy and figured there was a chance Foreman would catch him.
McCall over Lewis, but I usually picked against Lewis early in his career because he looked so beatable to me. I was mostly wrong about Lewis.
McCall over Lewis, but I usually picked against Lewis early in his career because he looked so beatable to me. I was mostly wrong about Lewis.
Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
I said Bellew would beat Haye, but I wasn't being serious.
Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
I knew Calzaghe would beat Lacy comfortably, not sure who was favored, but didn't expect the complete destruction that occurred. That is still to me one of the greatest nights in boxing, Joe was brilliant.
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
longest odds bet i ever placed was 100/1 on round odds for Johnson vs Jones. I put down 7, 8, 9 and 10 but only 50p on each
Bet on Prescott KO 1 Khan too but only 80/1, could have got 125/1 if i'd shopped around
Bet on Prescott KO 1 Khan too but only 80/1, could have got 125/1 if i'd shopped around
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Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
Jhonny Gonzalez over Abner Mares nice little payment on 18/1 underdog will never forget it.
Re: What was the biggest upset that you predicted?
I took macho Camacho to Ko ray Leonard. And picked Hopkins to beat tarver.