wilder offered 12.5m us to fight aj

[jamamb]

thoughts? says he will respond in 48 hours

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2018 ... shua-will/

[Like a Boss]

thoughts? says he will respond in 48 hours

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2018 ... shua-will/

So the "contract" does not state where the fight will be, when it will be, or even whether it will be Joshua’s next fight.

Sounds like a single A4 page written in large font to fill the space.

[Best Coast]

Sounds reasonable on its surface but the fine print could get a bit dicey...

However, the American’s management team, through co-manager Shelly Finkel, refuted this yesterday, claiming that this is “the first offer”, which was a “flat fee with no place, date or venue, nor even whether it was the next fight”.

[armageto]

The fight is expected to generate over $199 million. So right off that, let's say it's a 90-10 % split. That's a horrible offer. On top of that, there is no mention of location or where the fight is. I'm pretty nuetral in this fight, I just want to see it. That offer is horrible though. AJ doesn't want that smoke.....

Edit, late at night, I meant $100 million....

[jamamb]

The fight is expected to generate over $199 million. So right off that, let's say it's a 90-10 % split. That's a horrible offer. On top of that, there is no mention of location or where the fight is. I'm pretty nuetral in this fight, I just want to see it. That offer is horrible though. AJ doesn't want that smoke.....

does that mean the pot to be split would be around $199m? well over 100m?

what is the basis for such a massive figure?

aj and wlad split around 40m for there fight, what would you expect wilder and aj to have to split here?

many ppl want 40 percent for wilder, so does that mean wed be looking at him getting like $60 million?

you saying aj is ducking and afraid?

[tiny_acres]

The fight is expected to generate over $199 million. So right off that, let's say it's a 90-10 % split. That's a horrible offer. On top of that, there is no mention of location or where the fight is. I'm pretty nuetral in this fight, I just want to see it. That offer is horrible though. AJ doesn't want that smoke.....

Hearn predicted 80-100 million pounds

[jamamb]

hearn also said 1.5m ppv buys in the us, which is nonsense. aj isnt any better known in the us then ortiz is, and wilder-ortiz did 1m on showtime ffs, not 1.5m on ppv

canelo is way bigger in the us then wilder or aj, and gggs pretty decent a draw, and they only did 1.3m. dont tell me 'but there heavyweights!' because hw boxing just aint that big in the us anymore. look at the recent superstars: canelo, floyd, manny, oscar, etc


some of the estimated figures being thrown around are crazy. if you listen to some people, wilder with 40 percent of the supposedly utterly gargantuan pot should be making more then what wlad and aj combined made for there fight. this is despite boxing those guys being much bigger money makers then him.

[tiny_acres]

hearn also said 1.5m ppv buys in the us, which is nonsense. aj isnt any better known in the us then ortiz is, and wilder-ortiz did 1m on showtime ffs, not 1.5m on ppv

canelo is way bigger in the us then wilder or aj, and gggs pretty decent a draw, and they only did 1.3m. dont tell me 'but there heavyweights!' because hw boxing just aint that big in the us anymore. look at the recent superstars: canelo, floyd, manny, oscar, etc


some of the estimated figures being thrown around are crazy. if you listen to some people, wilder with 40 percent of the supposedly utterly gargantuan pot should be making more then what wlad and aj combined made for there fight. this is despite boxing those guys being much bigger money makers then him.

Well since no one would accept this offer we will not know will we?

[armageto]

The fight is expected to generate over $199 million. So right off that, let's say it's a 90-10 % split. That's a horrible offer. On top of that, there is no mention of location or where the fight is. I'm pretty nuetral in this fight, I just want to see it. That offer is horrible though. AJ doesn't want that smoke.....

Hearn predicted 80-100 million pounds

It goes to show that it's a bad offer even more, if they expecting over 100 million pounds from this fight.

[jamamb]

claiming it would do 1.5m in the us throws doubt on all the financial claims, theres simply no good reason for believing wilder vs aj would do nearly that many when neither has close to the us profile to make that happen

again, if this pot is as massive as some suggest, then even with like 40 percent wilder would be looking at making more then wlad and aj made combined for there fight, despite both guys already being far bigger draws then wilder.

[armageto]

The fight is expected to generate over $199 million. So right off that, let's say it's a 90-10 % split. That's a horrible offer. On top of that, there is no mention of location or where the fight is. I'm pretty nuetral in this fight, I just want to see it. That offer is horrible though. AJ doesn't want that smoke.....

does that mean the pot to be split would be around $199m? well over 100m?

what is the basis for such a massive figure?

aj and wlad split around 40m for there fight, what would you expect wilder and aj to have to split here?

many ppl want 40 percent for wilder, so does that mean wed be looking at him getting like $60 million?

you saying aj is ducking and afraid?

I don't even think Wilder needs 40% in reality. Offer up 25% to start, than negotiate up to 33-35%. 14.5 million, is pretty much offering him close to 10%, which is an insult. People are predicting over $100 million, so the offer to Wilder is pretty bad, if those estimates are accurate.

I can't say if Joshua is scared or doesn't want the fight. I can say his team made a terribly low offer, plus there is no location or date for the fight. The offer is a joke.

[jamamb]

The fight is expected to generate over $199 million. So right off that, let's say it's a 90-10 % split. That's a horrible offer. On top of that, there is no mention of location or where the fight is. I'm pretty nuetral in this fight, I just want to see it. That offer is horrible though. AJ doesn't want that smoke.....

does that mean the pot to be split would be around $199m? well over 100m?

what is the basis for such a massive figure?

aj and wlad split around 40m for there fight, what would you expect wilder and aj to have to split here?

many ppl want 40 percent for wilder, so does that mean wed be looking at him getting like $60 million?

you saying aj is ducking and afraid?

I don't even think Wilder needs 40% in reality. Offer up 25% to start, than negotiate up to 33-35%. 14.5 million, is pretty much offering him close to 10%, which is an insult. People are predicting over $100 million, so the offer to Wilder is pretty bad, if those estimates are accurate.

I can't say if Joshua is scared or doesn't want the fight. I can say his team made a terribly low offer, plus there is no location or date for the fight. The offer is a joke.

i dont see where all this money is coming from. your low rate 'starting' amount is already millions more then what wlad klit made vs aj, and wlad was a far bigger money maker then wilder. these figures seem way over the top, as the us ppv shows.

wilder ultimately gets paid in dollars not percents. he now makes 1-2m. and yet 20m isnt even good enough as a starting amount?

[tiny_acres]

some of the estimated figures being thrown around are crazy. if you listen to some people, wilder with 40 percent of the supposedly utterly gargantuan pot should be making more then what wlad and aj combined made for there fight. this is despite boxing those guys being much bigger money makers then him.

Again please think about this.
If this is an 80 million dollar fight.
The offer is 12 million to Joshua's 68 million.
Or if it was 60/40
48 million to Joshua
32 million to Wilder.

This has nothing to do with what Wlad or Joshua made in that fight.
It's larger amounts being discussed.
Percentages period the end

[tiny_acres]

The fight is expected to generate over $199 million. So right off that, let's say it's a 90-10 % split. That's a horrible offer. On top of that, there is no mention of location or where the fight is. I'm pretty nuetral in this fight, I just want to see it. That offer is horrible though. AJ doesn't want that smoke.....

does that mean the pot to be split would be around $199m? well over 100m?

what is the basis for such a massive figure?

aj and wlad split around 40m for there fight, what would you expect wilder and aj to have to split here?

many ppl want 40 percent for wilder, so does that mean wed be looking at him getting like $60 million?

you saying aj is ducking and afraid?

I don't even think Wilder needs 40% in reality. Offer up 25% to start, than negotiate up to 33-35%. 14.5 million, is pretty much offering him close to 10%, which is an insult. People are predicting over $100 million, so the offer to Wilder is pretty bad, if those estimates are accurate.

I can't say if Joshua is scared or doesn't want the fight. I can say his team made a terribly low offer, plus there is no location or date for the fight. The offer is a joke.

I agree. Wilder just wants more percentage wise than Parker got.
If Parker received 33 1/3%
Wilder eont sign for less than 35%

[jamamb]

well your saying hearn is saying its an 80-100 million POUND fight, which is 115-140m usd.

a 60-40 of that would be as much as 84-56 million!!! ya f@cking right lol

just look at the 1.5m us ppv claim to know its bs

[tiny_acres]

well your saying hearn is saying its an 80-100 million POUND fight, which is 115-140m usd.

a 60-40 of that would be as much as 84-56 million!!! ya f@cking right lol

just look at the 1.5m us ppv claim to know its bs

There's no talking to you on the subject.
Thanks for the debate. Have a good night

[jamamb]

ya, and theres no talking to ppl who have no perspective. and strange how half your posts are about hearn being a lieing snake but then you just readily accept the claims of this 150m pot and 1.5m us ppvs!

again, wilder gets paid in dollars and not percents. he makes like 1-2m per fight. the idea that somehow he needs to be STARTED out at like 25m is crazy. 'pretty neutral' lmao

and this pot isnt going to be nearly as big as some are claiming anyway. wlad and aj split like 40m, and this is somehow doing several times that? lol!

ya, because wilders an absolutely massive superstar who makes far more then wlad.

[Evander]

Sounds like a low offer I'll be surprised if Wilder takes it.

[tiny_acres]

Sounds like a low offer I'll be surprised if Wilder takes it.

No way do they take it

[jamamb]

surely then wilder must be the worst managed boxer in history if hes this incrediblely massive draw but has only been making like 1m a fight

i mean, wlad made 10m even vs bums and packed stadiums, and he got like 20m vs aj. whereras wilder deserves a MINIMUM starting offer of millions more then that, even though he brings in like 1m a fight?

who has been robbing wilder?

[Evander]

surely then wilder must be the worst managed boxer in history if hes this incrediblely massive draw but has only been making like 1m a fight

i mean, wlad made 10m even vs bums and packed stadiums, and he got like 20m vs aj. whereras wilder deserves a MINIMUM starting offer of millions more then that, even though he brings in like 1m a fight?

who has been robbing wilder?

Can you provide proof of that please, thanks in advance.

[jamamb]

surely then wilder must be the worst managed boxer in history if hes this incrediblely massive draw but has only been making like 1m a fight

i mean, wlad made 10m even vs bums and packed stadiums, and he got like 20m vs aj. whereras wilder deserves a MINIMUM starting offer of millions more then that, even though he brings in like 1m a fight?

who has been robbing wilder?

Can you provide proof of that please, thanks in advance.

proof of what? for wlads financial power just do a quick google, all sorts of numbers out there. the guy made millions and millions even vs nobodies, and then got 15-20m for aj. whereas wilder makes like 1m yet some people think he deserves to fetch 25m as a minimum starting offer to be increased. just look up, armageto for example is basically suggesting duck if wilder doesnt get like 25m just as a minimum starting offer

if wilders this massive financial power why has he been making like 1m? he didnt even get that vs washington. he must be terribly handled then.

[armageto]

again, wilder gets paid in dollars and not percents. he makes like 1-2m per fight. the idea that somehow he needs to be STARTED out at like 25m is crazy. 'pretty neutral' lmao

I am guessing this is directed towards me. I actually favor AJ in the fight still, though it has narrowed over the past year. There is no way, any champ in their right mind, is taking 10%. On top of that with no date or venue of the fight. Yeah, Wilder makes only a few million per fight. However him and Joshua is to unify all the belts and the biggest fight to make in the division in years. It's also the biggest fight to make in the sport right now.

The PPV sale expectations in the US seem off for right now, but there is no date for the fight. Say this fight happens in a year, with more exposure on it. I could see it reaching a million PPV sales here.

It's a bad offer. This has nothing with being pro Wilder or AJ. From the US or UK. Wilder brings himself to the fight. Which makes it the biggest HW fight in YEARS. He deserves more than 10%.

[tiny_acres]

surely then wilder must be the worst managed boxer in history if hes this incrediblely massive draw but has only been making like 1m a fight

i mean, wlad made 10m even vs bums and packed stadiums, and he got like 20m vs aj. whereras wilder deserves a MINIMUM starting offer of millions more then that, even though he brings in like 1m a fight?

who has been robbing wilder?

Can you provide proof of that please, thanks in advance.

proof of what? for wlads financial power just do a quick google, all sorts of numbers out there. the guy made millions and millions even vs nobodies, and then got 15-20m for aj. whereas wilder makes like 1m yet some people think he deserves to fetch 25m as a minimum starting offer to be increased. just look up, armageto for example is basically suggesting duck if wilder doesnt get like 25m just as a minimum starting offer

if wilders this massive financial power why has he been making like 1m? he didnt even get that vs washington. he must be terribly handled then.

I think even the biggest Wilder supporters will admit his career has been mismanaged

[jamamb]

again, wilder gets paid in dollars and not percents. he makes like 1-2m per fight. the idea that somehow he needs to be STARTED out at like 25m is crazy. 'pretty neutral' lmao

I am guessing this is directed towards me. I actually favor AJ in the fight still, though it has narrowed over the past year. There is no way, any champ in their right mind, is taking 10%. On top of that with no date or venue of the fight. Yeah, Wilder makes only a few million per fight. However him and Joshua is to unify all the belts and the biggest fight to make in the division in years. It's also the biggest fight to make in the sport right now.

The PPV sale expectations in the US seem off for right now, but there is no date for the fight. Say this fight happens in a year, with more exposure on it. I could see it reaching a million PPV sales here.

It's a bad offer. This has nothing with being pro Wilder or AJ. From the US or UK. Wilder brings himself to the fight. Which makes it the biggest HW fight in YEARS. He deserves more than 10%.

okay, so you think a fair amount for wilder would be more like 35 million?