Pro trainer allowed in semi pros?

[spudder56]

I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

Spot on mate

[leejonesjnr]

I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

Meh, I’m not really onboard with that as a justification.
When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

[mickey1975]

I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

Meh, I’m not really onboard with that as a justification.
When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Blind eyes need to be turned or there’ll be no pro boxing left! Let’s face it, unlicensed is here to stay, very popular and accessible and a lot of fights are better than your 40-36 down the card shows. They are incredibly boring and promoters are ruining good fighters with ticket demands. Every fighter I know apologises for even asking!

[leejonesjnr]

I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

Meh, I’m not really onboard with that as a justification.
When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Blind eyes need to be turned or there’ll be no pro boxing left! Let’s face it, unlicensed is here to stay, very popular and accessible and a lot of fights are better than your 40-36 down the card shows. They are incredibly boring and promoters are ruining good fighters with ticket demands. Every fighter I know apologises for even asking!

Yes unlicensed boxing and now also bare knuckle boxing are seemingly going nowhere. However pro boxing has no need to make allowances or change rules to accommodate unlicensed boxing.
Some people will have you believe that MMA is killing boxing, that’s nonsense too.

[mickey1975]

I’m a big fan of the traditional amateur-pro route but the lines are getting blurred.

[mickey1975]

Also, pro boxing has changed its rules, or at the very least tolerated it. It’s not even a secret. All involved with Haye-Del just carried on regardless. Or did one get made a scapegoat of?

[littlekinny]

Same applies to the MC.

[REEVE]

Getting on about "semi pro" on the last show i boxed on a lad made his debut he was 17-0 in semi pro

.....he got stopped in the first round and afterwards he said he coudlnt belive the differnce in standars between pro and "semi" pro

[mickey1975]

Getting on about "semi pro" on the last show i boxed on a lad made his debut he was 17-0 in semi pro

.....he got stopped in the first round and afterwards he said he coudlnt belive the differnce in standars between pro and "semi" pro

Was he a bit thick?

[leejonesjnr]

Getting on about "semi pro" on the last show i boxed on a lad made his debut he was 17-0 in semi pro

.....he got stopped in the first round and afterwards he said he coudlnt belive the differnce in standars between pro and "semi" pro

Was he a bit thick?

All boxers are

[Kit]

Personally I divide boxing in Britain into 3 simple core organisations:

Professional Boxing - BBBofC - established 1929
Amateur Boxing - ABA - established 1880
Mickey Mouse Boxing - Unlicensed/Semi Pro/White Collar - Established by whomever whenever

Think that clears everything up.

[Wales]

I’m a big fan of the traditional amateur-pro route but the lines are getting blurred.

Its only about 12 months ago that in Wales the amateur boxing association changed their rules to allow people who had fought semi pro to fight amateur.
Before the rule change if you’d fought any semi pro (unlicensed whatever ) fights you were barred from WABA. About 12 months ago they changed the rules due to pressure from fighters and coaches to allow fighters who have fought semi pro to come into amateurs providing they go straight to open class

[Wales]

When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

[spudder56]

When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

Everybody who is interviewed by an area council is told this

[REEVE]

Getting on about "semi pro" on the last show i boxed on a lad made his debut he was 17-0 in semi pro

.....he got stopped in the first round and afterwards he said he coudlnt belive the differnce in standars between pro and "semi" pro

Was he a bit thick?

Just young and a bit niave a think micky mate

[higgs88]

Not read any comments so may well have been asked already, but WHAT THE F*UCK is semi pro

[REEVE]

Not read any comments so may well have been asked already, but WHAT THE F*UCK is semi pro

unlicensed mate

[higgs88]

White collar basically

Not read any comments so may well have been asked already, but WHAT THE F*UCK is semi pro

unlicensed mate

[olij999]

When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

The point about boxing for other organisations is set out in regulations 4.12 and 5.15 of the BBBofC regulations and applies to all licence holders - in short, you can only box on board shows and on shows of organisations recognised by / affiliated to the board, and in the latter case you still need to get permission. Those regs are in the little green book that all licence-holders have.

[mickey1975]

When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

The point about boxing for other organisations is set out in regulations 4.12 and 5.15 of the BBBofC regulations and applies to all licence holders - in short, you can only box on board shows and on shows of organisations recognised by / affiliated to the board, and in the latter case you still need to get permission. Those regs are in the little green book that all licence-holders have.

Who ended up getting in trouble for Luxembourg?

[olij999]

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

The point about boxing for other organisations is set out in regulations 4.12 and 5.15 of the BBBofC regulations and applies to all licence holders - in short, you can only box on board shows and on shows of organisations recognised by / affiliated to the board, and in the latter case you still need to get permission. Those regs are in the little green book that all licence-holders have.

Who ended up getting in trouble for Luxembourg?

Ha! Good try, Mickey! I'm afraid I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement that all people on Area Councils sign up to, so could not say even if I knew about it. In any event, it was all dealt with by the stewards at head office - I am not a big enough cheese for such things (thankfully!).

[leejonesjnr]

The point about boxing for other organisations is set out in regulations 4.12 and 5.15 of the BBBofC regulations and applies to all licence holders - in short, you can only box on board shows and on shows of organisations recognised by / affiliated to the board, and in the latter case you still need to get permission. Those regs are in the little green book that all licence-holders have.

Who ended up getting in trouble for Luxembourg?

Ha! Good try, Mickey! I'm afraid I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement that all people on Area Councils sign up to, so could not say even if I knew about it. In any event, it was all dealt with by the stewards at head office - I am not a big enough cheese for such things (thankfully!).

What are your thoughts on license holders getting involved in unlicensed boxing and the BBBoC not acting?

[spudder56]

Who ended up getting in trouble for Luxembourg?

Ha! Good try, Mickey! I'm afraid I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement that all people on Area Councils sign up to, so could not say even if I knew about it. In any event, it was all dealt with by the stewards at head office - I am not a big enough cheese for such things (thankfully!).

What are your thoughts on license holders getting involved in unlicensed boxing and the BBBoC not acting?

I have personally seen several licences withdrawn for licence holders being involved in unlicensed boxing so the board do act when they have cast iron evidence etc but having said that some area councils turn a blind eye to it which is a major problem that the board have there is a lack of consistency across all area councils

[leejonesjnr]

Ha! Good try, Mickey! I'm afraid I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement that all people on Area Councils sign up to, so could not say even if I knew about it. In any event, it was all dealt with by the stewards at head office - I am not a big enough cheese for such things (thankfully!).

What are your thoughts on license holders getting involved in unlicensed boxing and the BBBoC not acting?

I have personally seen several licences withdrawn for licence holders being involved in unlicensed boxing so the board do act when they have cast iron evidence etc

Me too. I’m also aware of a number of current license holders who are involved in unlicensed boxing and happen to know that Robert Smith is also aware. The evidence in each case is indeed cast iron.

[spudder56]

What are your thoughts on license holders getting involved in unlicensed boxing and the BBBoC not acting?

I have personally seen several licences withdrawn for licence holders being involved in unlicensed boxing so the board do act when they have cast iron evidence etc

Me too. I’m also aware of a number of current license holders who are involved in unlicensed boxing and happen to know that Robert Smith is also aware. The evidence in each case is indeed cast iron.
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Exactly lee a complete lack of consistency in decision making