Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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oogiebe wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:34
Evander wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:33
oogiebe wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:30

Timing of that seemed odd, almost like he was meant to go down in that round very peculiar.

Question: Did you ever get hit in the liver? Or near it? If not, let me tell you, it is absolutely paralyzing.
Telling it the way I see it.
IDK...it was right under the right ribcage...youch!
I'm not saying the punch wasn't a good shot.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Impractical Poster wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:34
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:29 Some will say.. what body shot? Lol
It was hard to see in real matrix speed time. But the replay showed a superbly placed liver shot.
I saw it like 10 times and each time I cringed and grabbed my right side. Egads....!
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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diddy wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:16 Lomo was down on 1 card and even on another. Jesus.
Both his losing card and the draw were from female judges. It is official. Women have to be banned from judging boxing.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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boxing_rocks wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:36
diddy wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:16 Lomo was down on 1 card and even on another. Jesus.
Both his losing card and the draw were from female judges. It is official. Women have to be banned from judging boxing.
Call me Mr. Chicken, but I'm not going there.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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If anyone has anything other than a fairly lopsided card for Lomachenko prior to the stoppage they got caught up in the drama and were enjoying the fight more than scoring it.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Evander wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:39 If anyone has anything other than a fairly lopsided card for Lomachenko prior to the stoppage they got caught up in the drama and were enjoying the fight more than scoring it.
LOL, yeah...that's it! I'm a Linares fan and I had Loma up by 3. The cards were ridiculous!!!! We should all go for an officiating license and start scoring on behalf of the fighters and not the sanctioning bodies, et al.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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The idiot referee kept swaying left to right even while the fighters were standing still. He wasn't paying any attention to what was happening in front of him. Ref was in there for a jog instead.


The ESPN commentators, especially for the first half of the fight, kept talking about diplomacy, middle men, Ukranian dance classes, and everything under the sun but call the fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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DA1 wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:43 The idiot referee kept swaying left to right even while the fighters were standing still. He wasn't paying any attention to what was happening in front of him. Ref was in there for a jog instead.


The ESPN commentators, especially for the first half of the fight, kept talking about diplomacy, middle men, Ukranian dance classes, and everything under the sun but call the fight.
For the reasons you state, I sometimes hit the SAP button and enjoy the fight more.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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oogiebe wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:44
DA1 wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:43 The idiot referee kept swaying left to right even while the fighters were standing still. He wasn't paying any attention to what was happening in front of him. Ref was in there for a jog instead.


The ESPN commentators, especially for the first half of the fight, kept talking about diplomacy, middle men, Ukranian dance classes, and everything under the sun but call the fight.
For the reasons you state, I sometimes hit the SAP button and enjoy the fight more.
ESPN's commentators don't know jack about boxing to speak off.

But the ref pissed me off more. He was clearly on some other planet. He took to long to start the count, had to run cause he was off hiking somewhere else. And there were many instances where he should have been giving warnings but his face was turned to the guy selling peanuts than see what was going on in the ring.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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DA1 wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:48
oogiebe wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:44
DA1 wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:43 The idiot referee kept swaying left to right even while the fighters were standing still. He wasn't paying any attention to what was happening in front of him. Ref was in there for a jog instead.


The ESPN commentators, especially for the first half of the fight, kept talking about diplomacy, middle men, Ukranian dance classes, and everything under the sun but call the fight.
For the reasons you state, I sometimes hit the SAP button and enjoy the fight more.
ESPN's commentators don't know jack about boxing to speak off.

But the ref pissed me off more. He was clearly on some other planet. He took to long to start the count, he was off hiking somewhere else. And there were many instances where he should have been giving warnings but his back was turned to the guy selling peanuts to see what was going on in the ring.
1 - The ref missed a couple of low-blows by Linares, so your point well taken on that (lol on "off hiking somewhere else")
2 - The ESPN dolts were more into sounding smarter than the other rather than talking the fight. Very freakin' annoying.
3 - There is no "I" in Idiot.
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Just turned to HBO boxing and they are actually talking boxing like we would in our living room, for the most part.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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boxing_rocks wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:32
SenorPipino wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:21
diddy wrote: 12 May 2018, 22:17 Linares is COVERED in zits. COVERED. Look at his shoulders!
I see flabby guys in tank tops here in SoCal all the time with their upper back and shoulders covered in zits.

From the look of their physiques, few of them are using anything remotely like PEDS.
Are those guys 30+ years old?
Shit man. Some of these dudes look like they're past 40.

Actually when you sweat a lot (as boxers do in training) and you wear a tight fitting shirt (as boxers often do in training) skin eruptions are very common.

It's the irritation from all the perspiration and the shirt material.

I haven't heard anyone ever whisper about Linares so why not give him the benefit unless he flunks the piss test?
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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It was a great fight.

Lomachenko was clearly dominating for the most of the time, he proved being the favourite for the reason. There was no much drama in Linares dropping Loma, as Loma was more shocked, than hurt. The 9th round was better for Linares, cause then Loma was really hurt. The 9th round was the best thing, that had happened to Lomachenko, because with that Loma had proven, he had been able to overcome troubles. He came back in the 10th knocking Linares out with the body shot working from the head to the body, just like his father had told him to do.

Loma still has troubles with eating some unnecessary shots, but he has made very important thing, he was in real danger and then he came back. That's a definition of the greatness.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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How the judges scored the fight either so close of for Linares is beyond me. I though Loma dominated him. Even the round where he got knocked down Loma kicking his ass up until that point. The 9th was a good round for Linares though.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Loma: 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
Linares: 6, 7, 9
Even: 1

I scored the 6th round 10-9, as Loma was beating him up prior to that and, given that it happened at the end of the round, Linares had no real chance to capitalize. Not to mention I think Loma was more shocked/stung than legitimately hurt.

Thus, 87-85 for Loma going into the 10th.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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..good it didn't go to the scorecards..this tko prevented a lot of possible controversy..
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:35 Loma: 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
Linares: 6, 7, 9
Even: 1

I scored the 6th round 10-9, as Loma was beating him up prior to that and, given that it happened at the end of the round, Linares had no real chance to capitalize. Not to mention I think Loma was more shocked/stung than legitimately hurt.

Thus, 87-85 for Loma going into the 10th.
He was hurt...and very badly...it's a paralyzing blow. I remember those too well!
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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oogiebe wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:37
Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:35 Loma: 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
Linares: 6, 7, 9
Even: 1

I scored the 6th round 10-9, as Loma was beating him up prior to that and, given that it happened at the end of the round, Linares had no real chance to capitalize. Not to mention I think Loma was more shocked/stung than legitimately hurt.

Thus, 87-85 for Loma going into the 10th.
He was hurt...and very badly...it's a paralyzing blow. I remember those too well!
He got stung coming in by a perfect counter right on the button, a bit squared up at the point of impact, too. He popped up a second later and wasn't even wobbly. I'd hardly say he was "very badly" hurt. His chin is solid.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:45
oogiebe wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:37
Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:35 Loma: 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
Linares: 6, 7, 9
Even: 1

I scored the 6th round 10-9, as Loma was beating him up prior to that and, given that it happened at the end of the round, Linares had no real chance to capitalize. Not to mention I think Loma was more shocked/stung than legitimately hurt.

Thus, 87-85 for Loma going into the 10th.
He was hurt...and very badly...it's a paralyzing blow. I remember those too well!
He got stung coming in by a perfect counter right on the button, a bit squared up at the point of impact, too. He popped up a second later and wasn't even wobbly. I'd hardly say he was "very badly" hurt. His chin is solid.
He was hurt enough to go down. He was stung pretty good as I see it. Adds more to the performance than it took away. Getting up off the canvas and winning in this fashion only added more gold to Loma. (I'm not even a fan of his).
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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oogiebe wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:47
Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:45
oogiebe wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:37

He was hurt...and very badly...it's a paralyzing blow. I remember those too well!
He got stung coming in by a perfect counter right on the button, a bit squared up at the point of impact, too. He popped up a second later and wasn't even wobbly. I'd hardly say he was "very badly" hurt. His chin is solid.
He was hurt enough to go down. He was stung pretty good as I see it. Adds more to the performance than it took away. Getting up off the canvas and winning in this fashion only added more gold to Loma. (I'm not even a fan of his).
Here's the knockdown. What about Loma's reaction getting up suggests he was badly hurt?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8QiSD6XUq0
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:52
oogiebe wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:47
Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 11:45
He got stung coming in by a perfect counter right on the button, a bit squared up at the point of impact, too. He popped up a second later and wasn't even wobbly. I'd hardly say he was "very badly" hurt. His chin is solid.
He was hurt enough to go down. He was stung pretty good as I see it. Adds more to the performance than it took away. Getting up off the canvas and winning in this fashion only added more gold to Loma. (I'm not even a fan of his).
Here's the knockdown. What about Loma's reaction getting up suggests he was badly hurt?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8QiSD6XUq0
He wasn't badly hurt, but he was hurt enough. The dude went down on his duff. Doesn't happen when you're tickled mate.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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He was hurt. It's pretty much easy to see. He took the round after off for a reason. By the way, he was getting hurt by Linares' combinations. Linares has no power by the way. The guy hits dudes square and doesn't get a reaction, but he had Lomachenko on his ass and hurt.
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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:lol: @ "Linares has no power".
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Re: Round-by-Round - Jorge Linares vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - May 12, 2018

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Abradolf Lincler wrote: 13 May 2018, 13:51 :lol: @ "Linares has no power".
He has enough to keep foes honest. Not great, but good enough to be effective.
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