If Hughie Vacates

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ewenhay wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:41Why would Price and Chisora be dropping down to fight Hughie Fury for the British title? what are these lofty heights they are currently campaigning at?
Pure arrogance.
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Horse wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:45
ewenhay wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:41Why would Price and Chisora be dropping down to fight Hughie Fury for the British title? what are these lofty heights they are currently campaigning at?
Pure arrogance.
A fight against Fury for the British title for either of those two at this stage is a brilliant opportunity!
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Sadly, many of the traditional titles are now seen as not worth retaining.
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ewenhay wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:47A fight against Fury for the British title for either of those two at this stage is a brilliant opportunity!
I agree, but what is my opinion worth?
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Horse wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:54
ewenhay wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:47A fight against Fury for the British title for either of those two at this stage is a brilliant opportunity!
I agree, but what is my opinion worth?
About as much as mine then
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Like a Boss wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:52 Sadly, many of the traditional titles are now seen as not worth retaining.
The BBBofC being run by absolute spacwads doesn't help.

Jobs for the boys, talentless, uninterested placeholders.

Have these men no dignity whatsoever?

What are you worth guys? Soulless vermin. Rot in hell. Trash, tossers.
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Horse wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:45
ewenhay wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:41Why would Price and Chisora be dropping down to fight Hughie Fury for the British title? what are these lofty heights they are currently campaigning at?
Pure arrogance.
Personally I'd like to see those fights but I think Chisora and Price would see it as a step back considering they first fought for a British title 8 and 6 years ago respectively so I doubt they'd take it. As I said in my post, I was suggesting ones which I could see potentially happening rather than what I want to happen.
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ElJefe wrote: 18 May 2018, 21:01
Horse wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:45
ewenhay wrote: 18 May 2018, 18:41Why would Price and Chisora be dropping down to fight Hughie Fury for the British title? what are these lofty heights they are currently campaigning at?
Pure arrogance.
Personally I'd like to see those fights but I think Chisora and Price would see it as a step back considering they first fought for a British title 8 and 6 years ago respectively so I doubt they'd take it. As I said in my post, I was suggesting ones which I could see potentially happening rather than what I want to happen.
Those fights are realistic. Hughie Fury just fought 12 rounds for a world title with a guy who took Joshua 12 rounds in the fight directly afterwards.

A win against Fury gets them noticed again.
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Getting a British merrygoround going, would end up with a genuine world title challenger anyway. Possibly two.

Imagine if Hughie stayed champ, Whyte, Chisora, Price, Bellew and even Tyson all got involved? The one to come through all of that would land a world title shot no problem.

The issue is they all want to sneak and move their way via a much less risky route, to said title shot.

The Fury’s have always been ‘careful’ with their paths to the top shall we say. Tyson dropping the British to avoid Price and fight a washed up Rogan was borderline embarassing at the time. Hughie dropping this belt to avoid Joyce or the risk of Whyte being named mandatory ( a fight Dillian would want I suspect ), with Hughie probably ending up fighting someone barley top 40, will be similar.
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I think they will try and get him in with Quarry or Bonavena. He needs a tune up before Frazier.

(I might be getting Hughie confused with someone else)


They’ve took a gamble,dipped into their pockets and took a loss financially against Parker.
Pockets not deep enough for Wilder or Joshua. He’d have to fight for mandatory posistion as he doesn’t sell tickets or PPV.

Why not go for Kabayel, European title. The title sells to TV if the fighters themselves don’t.

Also Boxing News have Fury #4 in the world. Love Boxing News but don’t agree with that ranking.
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Seriously, they have Fury at 4?
Where is the full list please mate?
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Just googled and found it.
Thats not a great top 10.
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CharlesListon wrote: 19 May 2018, 07:44 Just googled and found it.
Thats not a great top 10.
It's like a joke list that people make to take the piss.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/heavyweight/
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You're right Horse.
I think it is possibly the worst top 10 I've seen.
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Would love to see Hughie, Joyce, Chisora & Price fight it out for the Brit/CW titles.

Think Dubois Vs Allen (maybe) for a vacant strap towards the end of the year is more likely though..
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Pukka Cheese wrote: 19 May 2018, 11:13 Would love to see Hughie, Joyce, Chisora & Price fight it out for the Brit/CW titles.

Think Dubois Vs Allen (maybe) for a vacant strap towards the end of the year is more likely though..
That would be a pretty poor bout for the vacant title.
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Pukka Cheese wrote: 19 May 2018, 11:13 Would love to see Hughie, Joyce, Chisora & Price fight it out for the Brit/CW titles.

Think Dubois Vs Allen (maybe) for a vacant strap towards the end of the year is more likely though..
Allen wont get a title shot he is beyond gash..
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CharlesListon wrote: 19 May 2018, 07:42 Seriously, they have Fury at 4?
Where is the full list please mate?
Awful ranking.

Hughie has never beaten anyone has he? His ranking is based on a close fight with Parker.

Ruiz had one of them.
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bn have had some truly awful rankings, ive contacted them before but never got a response about the rankings

i also wouldnt have bellew at 7 either for beating a haye who hadnt beat a top 30 opponent in years.
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Wow Hughie at 4 in the world. Based in what ? Running around the ring and flicking his left hand out against Parker,

Sorry but any magazine doing that has zero credibility.

As for the British Heavyweight title it's going to be poor again, Gorman or Dubois won't fight Joyce. They turned down Nick Webb for the English title.

Joyce v Nick Webb possibly ?

I think Hughie should fight Joyce but they obviously see Joyce as a threat. I actually don't mind Hughie giving up the belt if his next fight is someone clearly above British level, but I doubt Henessyey can do anything to get him near a world title fight.

The only reason the Parker fight happened is because Warren owns the WBO.
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Naandrew wrote: 20 May 2018, 05:26 Wow Hughie at 4 in the world. Based in what ? Running around the ring and flicking his left hand out against Parker,

Sorry but any magazine doing that has zero credibility.

As for the British Heavyweight title it's going to be poor again, Gorman or Dubois won't fight Joyce. They turned down Nick Webb for the English title.

Joyce v Nick Webb possibly ?

I think Hughie should fight Joyce but they obviously see Joyce as a threat. I actually don't mind Hughie giving up the belt if his next fight is someone clearly above British level, but I doubt Henessyey can do anything to get him near a world title fight.

The only reason the Parker fight happened is because Warren owns the WBO.
i don't think it was out of fear of Webb lol... gorman in particular got a European title and a world ranking in the fight he took as opposed to webb
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Avitar wrote: 20 May 2018, 14:32
Naandrew wrote: 20 May 2018, 05:26 Wow Hughie at 4 in the world. Based in what ? Running around the ring and flicking his left hand out against Parker,

Sorry but any magazine doing that has zero credibility.

As for the British Heavyweight title it's going to be poor again, Gorman or Dubois won't fight Joyce. They turned down Nick Webb for the English title.

Joyce v Nick Webb possibly ?

I think Hughie should fight Joyce but they obviously see Joyce as a threat. I actually don't mind Hughie giving up the belt if his next fight is someone clearly above British level, but I doubt Henessyey can do anything to get him near a world title fight.

The only reason the Parker fight happened is because Warren owns the WBO.
i don't think it was out of fear of Webb lol... gorman in particular got a European title and a world ranking in the fight he took as opposed to webb

I don't know if Webb is any good. I've only seen him bang out an Eastern European on a matchroom card. One thing he would do against Gorman or Dubois is throw something back.

Sure Gorman won one of these toy belts against a poor opponent, but a world ranking is meaningless at this stage of his career. It should be all about taking fights where they will learn and going through levels meaning area,domestic, euro, world.


Hughie Fury is a prime example of this going wrong. He fought poor opposition on the way to becoming mandatory for Joseph Parker. Hughie also turned down the opportunity to fight Dillian Whyte for the British title. This is a fight he could have won and critically would have learnt a lot from at that stage.

The lessons Hughie would have learnt in a fight like that could have been the difference against Parker.
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