Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

Who wins?

Poll ended at 13 Jun 2018, 04:09

Spence - Decision
1
4%
Spence - KO/TKO
23
92%
DRAW
0
No votes
Ocampo - KO/TKO
1
4%
Ocampo - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 25

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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

Post by SenorPipino »

I was watching some tape of Ocampo against a couple guys named Enrique Soto and Charlie Navarro.

I have to agree with jamamb and say that Ocampo isn't really true world class. Certainly not a #1 contender.

He's tall, rangy, puts punches together well, especially to the body.

He's not really a huge puncher but gets his KOs through volume. He's busy with his hands. At least against non-threatening opponents.

Ocampo can move, but it's in a galloping, jerky style. Not smooth at all.

He often keeps his hands low and can be tagged. Doesn't use his jab effectively. Despite being tall, he's most effective on the inside.

Against Navarro and Soto, it's difficult to gauge his chin. He was never hurt or shook, but those two aren't Spence.

Ocampo is the type of fighter who might have been a star on the old Solo Boxeo series, but wouldn't pass the litmus test when he moved up in class.

It's unlikely that he survives more than 4 rounds with Spence, even if Ocampo's chin turns out to be solid.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Guessing Spence is -10,000 here. D
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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diddy wrote: 01 May 2018, 20:39 Guessing Spence is -10,000 here. D

I haven't seen any odds posted but it's probably at least -5000.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Live Presser

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Daniel Roman vs. Moises Flores for the WBA super bantamweight championship..

Regular champion vs. Interim champion

Added to the card.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 May 2018, 08:33 Daniel Roman vs. Moises Flores for the WBA super bantamweight championship..

Regular champion vs. Interim champion

Added to the card.
I'm sure they'll create another champion afterwards
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Naandrew wrote: 01 Jun 2018, 02:33
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 May 2018, 08:33 Daniel Roman vs. Moises Flores for the WBA super bantamweight championship..

Regular champion vs. Interim champion

Added to the card.
I'm sure they'll create another champion afterwards
:TU:

Absolutely. Have to recoup the lost sanctioning fee.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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hopefully just a warm up fight to get Spence going again
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

Post by G.McClellan »

Spence will get the other belt holders to face him. Thurman is injured. Garcia and Porter face each other for the WBC belt. Crawford has Horn lined up. By all account the PPV for the Crawford\Horn fight isn't doing so well. Which means Arum might be tempted at a highly anticipated unification fight (assuming Crawford wins on June 9th) with Spence.

Garcia didn't want to face Thurman, but he ran out of credible options. Which is what will happen with both Porter and himself once the two of them meet.

Spence, probably, won't have to make these fights, as these fight might be making themselves.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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I'd be surprised if Spence and Crawford meet up any time within the next 2 years.

They're 2 of the P4P best in the game, but at this point no one really knows them.

The money just isn't there for these quality fighters because the casuals are barely aware Spence and Crawford exist.

If they can't be guaranteed more than $50 million apiece, there's no sense in making the bout.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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SenorPipino wrote: 04 Jun 2018, 22:40 If they can't be guaranteed more than $50 million apiece, there's no sense in making the bout.
Why would they be guaranteed $50m each? That's too high.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Jun 2018, 02:51
SenorPipino wrote: 04 Jun 2018, 22:40 If they can't be guaranteed more than $50 million apiece, there's no sense in making the bout.
Why would they be guaranteed $50m each? That's too high.

That's my point.

If 2 of the best P4P fighters today can't get that type of money facing each other, there's no rhyme or reason to fight one another.

They deserve that number (at the least) based on talent and the in-ring excitement they bring.

But right now, and for the near term, that can't command that kind of money because they're not household names.

Let them wait it out until sometime in 2020 ( or longer) and that type of purse figures to be there.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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SenorPipino wrote: 05 Jun 2018, 09:08
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Jun 2018, 02:51
SenorPipino wrote: 04 Jun 2018, 22:40 If they can't be guaranteed more than $50 million apiece, there's no sense in making the bout.
Why would they be guaranteed $50m each? That's too high.

That's my point.

If 2 of the best P4P fighters today can't get that type of money facing each other, there's no rhyme or reason to fight one another.

They deserve that number (at the least) based on talent and the in-ring excitement they bring.

But right now, and for the near term, that can't command that kind of money because they're not household names.

Let them wait it out until sometime in 2020 ( or longer) and that type of purse figures to be there.
I doubt either will ever receive that amount.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Spence fought in January, why does he have to wait until June for this fight? I'd understand if it was a big fight, but lets be honest, he's going to be comfortable against Ocampo. Surely he could fight him in like April and then have an extra fight in the calendar year?
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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ElJefe wrote: 05 Jun 2018, 09:30 Spence fought in January, why does he have to wait until June for this fight? I'd understand if it was a big fight, but lets be honest, he's going to be comfortable against Ocampo. Surely he could fight him in like April and then have an extra fight in the calendar year?
He probably will fight again this year.

On 23rd Jan, they were given until 22nd Feb to negotiate a deal. By then, Showtime already confirmed Spence's next fight would be in June in Dallas. I suppose it's all about date availability.

In the middle of March, terms were agreed for a fight and the official press conference was on 30 April, a month and a half before the fight takes place.

So i'm thinking, negotiations and trying to reach a deal to avoid purse bids was not the reason as to why the fight is taking place in June. The reason it was in June was simply because Showtime always release their half year dates way in advance.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Errol Spence vs. Carlos Ocampo - Referee, Judges Finalized

The International Boxing Federation has finalized the officials for the upcoming title fight, which features undefeated welterweight champion Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. defending his IBF world title in a Dallas homecoming on Saturday, June 16.

The referee selected for the contest is veteran official Lawrence Cole.

And the three official judges will include Jesse Reyes of Texas, Cesar Ramos of Bayamon, Puerto Rico, and John Madfis of Auburndale, Massachusetts.
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Errol Spence Serving Meals at Salvation Army in Dallas


Unbeaten welterweight world champion Errol Spence Jr. spent time giving back in his hometown Wednesday, as he handed out meals at the Salvation Army in Dallas ahead of his homecoming world title defense live on SHOWTIME this Saturday, June 16 from Ford Center at The Star in Frisco, Texas in an event presented by Premier Boxing Champions.

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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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diddy wrote: 01 May 2018, 20:39 Guessing Spence is -10,000 here. D
Betting lines have opened and Spence is not-too-surprisingly a massive favorite.

The champ is anywhere from a 1-50 to a 1-100 choice over the unbeaten, but untested, Ocampo.

But who knows? The unheralded Ocampo could turn out to be another Munguia.

Unfortunately for the Mexican contender, Spence is not another Sadam Ali.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Whats the red thing he's got on his head?
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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https://fightnews.com/spence-ocampo-rom ... eavy/23525 Errol looks abnormally drained. He should move to 154 before he get caught on some peds. Havent saw somebody that drainet at weigh ifor ong time.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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He looks ripped, as he usually does.

Nothing in that photo tells me he's drained.

People often say that about a fighter during the weigh-in. That he looks gaunt and weak.

Then that fighter climbs into the ring and puts on a dominating performance.

I expect the same tonight from Spence, whether it goes 1 or 12.

Another PED insinuation? Business as usual around here.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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lol that shirt though. i really did think he was wearing his actual belt :lol:
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Does anyone know if this is being broadcast in the UK? It seems some fights are starting to slip through the cracks over here and I cant seem to find it anywhere. Thought Sky would have picked this up. Nothing on allegedly or BT either. :brick:
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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Gotta love a major world title fight with one guy a 1-120 favorite.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Carlos Ocampo - June 16, 2018

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diddy wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 17:34 Gotta love a major world title fight with one guy a 1-120 favorite.

Today I saw it as high as 1-150. Even more lopsided than Fury-Seferi odds.

Who's the one guy on the poll here who picked Ocampo to win tonight?

And by KO no less.

Curious as to his reasoning.
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