Anthony Joshua vs. Alexander Povetkin - 22 September 2018

[jamamb]

how much does wilder actually have after taxes and purse cuts with his $1m paydays?

like $5m/£3.8m ?

i dont know how he spends, but while thats good money its hardly the type of money that cant be blown. so many examples of guys blowing far more

[Taansend]

What happened to the last aj/povetkin post did mickey and dirk get it removed?

I think so. Can’t just talk about a fight. They start threatening each other

Thats the problem on here sometimes,people cant see other peoples point view,like they have tunnel vision lol,i cant talk sometimes im the same

Mickey is irrational when it comes to Joshua

[3132DW]

Have always thought a 3rd, neutral party, should be involved. That person could then field media questions about the progress of negotiations and do it in an impartial manner.

Have also wondered about flying pigs, troll-less forums and. all manner of other things.

Wilder earns 2m-2.5m at present - he’s got 15m on the table - if I was him I’d be on the phone to Finkel asking what is the issue really was or is he his meal ticket.

Its all relative. Wilder is a multimillionaire now with more money than he can spend. The guy isnt an idiot, hes definitely doing the right things with his money. It goes the same way too. Joshua isn't making anywhere near the money he can make with Wilder either. I think its more about legacy now for both of them.

Joshua has numerous endorsements worth millions of pounds each - he’s a global recognised brand where as Wilder (41-0) Heavyweight Champ that nobody outside of Boxing has heard of.

[TheLeprechaun]

Wilder earns 2m-2.5m at present - he’s got 15m on the table - if I was him I’d be on the phone to Finkel asking what is the issue really was or is he his meal ticket.

Its all relative. Wilder is a multimillionaire now with more money than he can spend. The guy isnt an idiot, hes definitely doing the right things with his money. It goes the same way too. Joshua isn't making anywhere near the money he can make with Wilder either. I think its more about legacy now for both of them.

Joshua has numerous endorsements worth millions of pounds each - he’s a global recognised brand where as Wilder (41-0) Heavyweight Champ that nobody outside of Boxing has heard of.

Wilder has no endorsements right?

Since you're in the know, can you list all the endorsements both fighters have please?

[Wa1nuts]

Regardless of how much hes made in the past, if Wilder is not lying, do you think its fair to accept an offer without a rematch clause if he loses? An how can he sign a contract with no specified venue?

[Mimmy]

Regardless of how much hes made in the past, if Wilder is not lying, do you think its fair to accept an offer without a rematch clause if he loses? An how can he sign a contract with no specified venue?

I think its only fair to offer a rematch if you are champion and hold a belt, unless however you are offered plenty of cash not to want a rematch. Also I would at least want to know which country id be fighting in before i signed a contract. surely thats part and parcel of a contract.

[Wa1nuts]

Regardless of how much hes made in the past, if Wilder is not lying, do you think its fair to accept an offer without a rematch clause if he loses? An how can he sign a contract with no specified venue?

I think its only fair to offer a rematch if you are champion and hold a belt, unless however you are offered plenty of cash not to want a rematch. Also I would at least want to know which country id be fighting in before i signed a contract. surely thats part and parcel of a contract.

Exactly. In which case Wilder was in the right not to accept. Im not too bothered as long as it happens by the end of next year at the latest.

Wilder could be lying though, not seen anything back to imply he was?

[Mimmy]

Regardless of how much hes made in the past, if Wilder is not lying, do you think its fair to accept an offer without a rematch clause if he loses? An how can he sign a contract with no specified venue?

I think its only fair to offer a rematch if you are champion and hold a belt, unless however you are offered plenty of cash not to want a rematch. Also I would at least want to know which country id be fighting in before i signed a contract. surely thats part and parcel of a contract.

Exactly. In which case Wilder was in the right not to accept. Im not too bothered as long as it happens by the end of next year at the latest.

Wilder could be lying though, not seen anything back to imply he was?

I dont think the wilder fight was ever going to be next on the agenda of Anthony Joshua. They possibly knew that the WBA or had heard through the grapevine that a mandatory fight was coming up next in Povetkin so just stirred the pot somewhat to get the fans interested and build up a bit of a smell to help sell the fight after Povetkin.

Its nothing new its all getting the fans into a frenzy to put their hand sin their pockets to buy the seats when the fight happens.

[Crazyboy]

Who knows the details of offers etc...we don't so stop speculating.

If AJ fights Povetkin next then here we go.

Despite all the AJ/ Wilder talk it wasn't agreed for whatever reason so things move on.

If AJ has to fight Pov then so be it, its a great fight and assuming AJ wins another good name on his record.

Mimmy - totally agree with that...at the end of the day it builds the AJ/ wilder fight some more and lets be honest its all about the money.

Boxing is a business first, these days anyway.

[funso banjo baby]

Aj v Povetkin is a great fight.

I still have Povetkin higher than Wilder. Wilder's bauble grows sillier with every crap defence he makes.

I expect AJ to go through some serious trouble against Povetkin but he may stop him or get the points.

[Andrew]

This is a decent fight.

I wouldn't dispute anyone saying Povetkin is better than Parker.

I do think povetkin will "go for it" more than Parker did.

[jamamb]

its absolutely a solid match

povetkin is top 5 in most rankings. hed be a career best win for almost every active hw and a best 2 win for all of them, with the possible exception of aj. ppl go on about aj needing to fight wilder when bermane stiverne is one of the very best wins for wilder. so povetkin is no one to scoff at as an opponent

in 5 years as a pro, if this happens aj will have fought wlad, povetkin, parker, whyte, takam, breazeale, molina, and martin. thats excellent. hes been pro shorter time then anyone in boxrecs top 25. no other top hw around has been moved anything like that.imagine if he was still fighting jason gavern 7 years in.

[DrDuke]

Aj v Povetkin is a great fight.

I still have Povetkin higher than Wilder. Wilder's bauble grows sillier with every crap defence he makes.

I expect AJ to go through some serious trouble against Povetkin but he may stop him or get the points.

Yeah, I also rate Povetkin higher, than Wilder. His resume can even be better. And it is definitely better in the terms of the number of fights and the amount of solid scalps ratio.

[DrDuke]

its absolutely a solid match

povetkin is top 5 in most rankings. hed be a career best win for almost every active hw and a best 2 win for all of them, with the possible exception of aj. ppl go on about aj needing to fight wilder when bermane stiverne is one of the very best wins for wilder. so povetkin is no one to scoff at as an opponent

in 5 years as a pro, if this happens aj will have fought wlad, povetkin, parker, whyte, takam, breazeale, molina, and martin. thats excellent. hes been pro shorter time then anyone in boxrecs top 25. no other top hw around has been moved anything like that.imagine if he was still fighting jason gavern 7 years in.

No doubt, AJ's resume is great. I believe, Povetkin is the final test for him. I've always was sceptical for AJ, he really appeared to be a learning boxer even after becoming a champion. But if he wins Povetkin, he'll prove everything for me. I'd actually call a Wilder fight a formality then. Just a necessary formality to become an undisputed champion on paper, cause Joshua is already rated as the best guy there. I rate Wilder as a minor belt-holder and I guess, I lot of people think the same.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Joshua vs Povetkin: British referee expected for world heavyweight title fight

Anthony Joshua vs Alexander Povetkin will be refereed by a British official, promoter Eddie Hearn believes.

Joshua's IBF, WBA and WBO heavyweight titles will be on the line on September 22 at Wembley, live on Sky Sports Box Office, and discussions have already taken place about the referee.

"It will be an English ref. We're looking at an English ref with that fight because they're some of the best in the world," Hearn told Sky Sports.

Joshua's most recent victory against Joseph Parker in March was refereed by Italy's Giuseppe Quartarone.

"No one was happy with the ref," Parker's promoter David Higgins told Sky Sports last month.

Hearn added: "[Parker's team] wanted a neutral ref. We agreed to that. The refs are put forward, and the [British Boxing Board of Control] selected him. He is a very good ref - he has refereed world title fights and has never done anything controversial. When Joshua and Parker were scrapping on the inside, I thought a lot of the ref's breaks were justified. But a couple weren't."

The BBBofC are responsible for selecting the officials for fights in Britain although, for world title bouts, a fighter's team can request a non-British referee.

For example, Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko agreed to use officials from neutral countries for their Wembley showdown last year. The United States' David Fields was selected as the referee.

Of Joshua's six world title fights, three have included British referees. Belgium's Jean-Pierre Van Imschoot was the third man in the ring when Joshua won Charles Martin's IBF title.

"[Povetkin's promoters] World of Boxing are happy with a British ref," Hearn said.

"It will have to be approved by the Board. British refs are the best in the world."

Povetkin's recent knockout win against David Price in Cardiff was refereed by Britain's Howard John Foster.

[tiny_acres]

Joshua vs Povetkin: British referee expected for world heavyweight title fight

Anthony Joshua vs Alexander Povetkin will be refereed by a British official, promoter Eddie Hearn believes.

Joshua's IBF, WBA and WBO heavyweight titles will be on the line on September 22 at Wembley, live on Sky Sports Box Office, and discussions have already taken place about the referee.

"It will be an English ref. We're looking at an English ref with that fight because they're some of the best in the world," Hearn told Sky Sports.

Joshua's most recent victory against Joseph Parker in March was refereed by Italy's Giuseppe Quartarone.

"No one was happy with the ref," Parker's promoter David Higgins told Sky Sports last month.

Hearn added: "[Parker's team] wanted a neutral ref. We agreed to that. The refs are put forward, and the [British Boxing Board of Control] selected him. He is a very good ref - he has refereed world title fights and has never done anything controversial. When Joshua and Parker were scrapping on the inside, I thought a lot of the ref's breaks were justified. But a couple weren't."

The BBBofC are responsible for selecting the officials for fights in Britain although, for world title bouts, a fighter's team can request a non-British referee.

For example, Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko agreed to use officials from neutral countries for their Wembley showdown last year. The United States' David Fields was selected as the referee.

Of Joshua's six world title fights, three have included British referees. Belgium's Jean-Pierre Van Imschoot was the third man in the ring when Joshua won Charles Martin's IBF title.

"[Povetkin's promoters] World of Boxing are happy with a British ref," Hearn said.

"It will have to be approved by the Board. British refs are the best in the world."

Povetkin's recent knockout win against David Price in Cardiff was refereed by Britain's Howard John Foster.

I always prefer a ref from a neutral country

[Grilling Machine]

I'd like a ref with a proven record of apparent neutrality. We've all seen fights with three Americans in the ring where the ref's partisan. Likewise, I've favoured non-Brits over home fighters plenty of times myself. I'd try not to if I were a ref, obviously, but genuine neutrality's hard to find and just a bit unnatural most of the time.

Woods-Johnson's one of the first examples to mind where I was totally unbiased. That said, an entirely foreign ref's probably more likely to be fair on average, brown envelopes aside.

[Pukka Cheese]

Pov looks like he's been having fun in sparing

[ILikeBeer]

I always prefer a ref from a neutral country

Eddie Hearn doesn't.

[DrDuke]

Dubois is a good choice for sparrings. Team Povetkin is taking the preparation very seriously.

[Datsue]

Pov looks like he's been having fun in sparing

Fuckin' 'ell.

Mind, car-crash of a face aside, he looks in decent nick. Looks like the flabby Povetkin of say, his first 27 fights is definitely a thing of the past...

[tiny_acres]

Pov looks like he's been having fun in sparing

Now I'm waiting on a failed ped test

[Stuarty]

Dubois is a good choice for sparrings. Team Povetkin is taking the preparation very seriously.

Was thinking the same before I read your post mate. Pov is here to win! He must know it's his last chance as well so that adds an extra incentive. At 38 he's not gonna get another go at the top table!

[DrDuke]

Dubois is a good choice for sparrings. Team Povetkin is taking the preparation very seriously.

Was thinking the same before I read your post mate. Pov is here to win! He must know it's his last chance as well so that adds an extra incentive. At 38 he's not gonna get another go at the top table!

I hope, Sasha will do it, I'm a long-time fan of him, following his career since the Olympics.

[Stuarty]

Dubois is a good choice for sparrings. Team Povetkin is taking the preparation very seriously.

Was thinking the same before I read your post mate. Pov is here to win! He must know it's his last chance as well so that adds an extra incentive. At 38 he's not gonna get another go at the top table!

I hope, Sasha will do it, I'm a long-time fan of him, following his career since the Olympics.

I wouldn't say I was a fan to be honest. I'm just a pissed off fan of the sport.