Late round comebacks

[APerno]

Corbett was so close to pulling this off. Had he done so he probably would rated much higher today.

. . . and Jeffries would be near the bottom of most people's lists. -- According to The Times it was an ugly KO too; Corbett ended up with his neck laying over the bottom rope out cold. (Corbett tried to roll over but collapsed.) The referee 'Good Eye' Charley White chose to count off ten anyway (I guess they did that back then); it took a full minute to revive Corbett.

A funny thing: there was all this pre-fight talk that the fight was a set-up (Bill Brady had both fighters under contract) and there was very little money bet on the fight; the crowd was all in for Corbett but wouldn't bet on him; when it was over the crowd cheered Corbett and refused to acknowledge Jeffries victory.

There was so much distrust of Brady that only with the presence of the referee Charley White was the crowd willing to buy into the fight. Referee White was well know in New York and the crowd trusted him, but not Brady; Brady couldn't sell the fight until he announced that Charley White was refereeing.

Referee White then held up the fight for 20 minutes, refusing to enter the ring until Brady paid him his $500 fee up front. (Not bad for 1900) Charley White knew without him, Brady couldn't convince the crowd the fight was legit, (not just an exhibition.)

Anyway I wrote all this because I just pitched Charley White to the Boxing HOF. I was able to get his name before the review board, so we'll see. I am hoping he gets in.

Check out this guy's fight history (His name is misspelled by BoxRec as "Charlie White.") it is a who's who of turn of the century fighters: Jeffries, Corbett, Willard, Barbados Joe Walcott, Langford, Jeannette, Gans, Wolgast, Attell, McGovern, Fitzsimmons, Sharkey, Kid McCoy, and others.

Plus there are a series of wonderful anecdotes to go along; his was a colorful career.

One anecdote that speaks to his unquestioned integrity is that he was the only referee Jack Johnson (Reno 1910) would accept as back-up referee to Tex Rickard. White's reputation was such that even Jack Johnson was willing to trust him (after Rickard of course).

I figure if they can put Larry Hazard in the HOF, this guy should at least get a look-see.

Check out his resume: http://boxrec.com/en/referee/401639

[Sidney Carton]

Cleveland Williams---Curley Lee

Sugar Ray Robinson--Tommy Bell

Sugar Ray Robinson--Artie Levine

Bell actually lasted the distance. I think Robinson was ahead on points in the Levine fight.

Clueless post.

In their fight for Marty Servo's vacated welterweight title, Tommy Bell was beating the hell out of Robinson, knocked Robinson down, and was way ahead on points at the halfway mark.
Robinson had to fight like hell to get back in the fight. In the second half of the fight Robinson knocked Bell down and eked out a very hard fought decision.

Robinson was way behind in his fight with Artie Levine. Robinson said Levine hit him harder than anyone he fought and that when Levine knocked him down the first count he heqrd was "five" and that he wondered why the ref was starting the count with 'five.'

What a waste of time answering such a clueless post.

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1946-11-06 159¼ Artie Levine Sugar Ray Robinson 150 72 1 1 Arena, Cleveland
L
KO 10/10

time: 2:41 | referee: Jackie Davis
Attendance: 12,102. Robinson received a purse of $12,500. "Sugar..was almost kayoed in the fourth round. A left hook, followed by a right cross, both to the chin, put (him) down and almost out...Sugar rose unsteadily and called upon all his ring skill and stamina to last out the round...Sugar had several other close calls during the course of the evening. Artie's left hooks and resounding right crosses occasionally found their marks and with telling effect. Robinson's class and body punching were taking their toll from the heavier Levine as the bout progressed. Sugar started the tenth with knockout intent. With the round about two minutes gone, Sugar paralyzed Artie with a right to the solar plexus. Then Sugar became a 'killer,' throwing punches with reckless abandon to both head and body with the result that Artie was beaten to the floor." (The Ring, January 1947, page 34)

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[Ambling Alp II]

Why are you being so rude?
Sorry if I wasn't clear with the original post (I edited it) but the winning fighter is supposed to win by stoppage after losing.
Robinson did not win by stoppage.

The referee and the judges had Robinson ahead of Levine when he stopped him. Therefore it's not a "comeback". If you would have scrolled down further or read the article of the fight you would have seen that.

-Referee Jackie Davis had Robinson ahead 5-4, while Judges Charlie Bill and Herb Williams had him in front 5-3-1 and 6-2-1, respectively.

No reason to be so snippy.

[m3304]

These were some great comebacks I saw on TV

1} Archie Moore knock down 4 times in the first two rounds and finally KO's Durelle in one of the
later rounds 11th or 12 th I forget

2) Tony Demarco was knocking Carmen Basilio all around the ring for the first 8 or so rounds
until he began to tire & Basilio finished off DeMarco in the 12th round

3) Ray Robinson near the end of his prime lost the title to Randy Turpin in England. In a rematch I
think it was at the garden Turpin opened up Robinson's eye badly enough for the ref to
consider stopping the fight when Robinson KO'd Turpin.

[bwu]

My apologies if some of these were already mentioned:

Joey Maxim-Sugar Ray Robinson
Muhammad Ali-Ron Lyle
Lee Roy Murphy-Chisanda Mutti
Lee Roy Murphy-Marvin Camel
Ralf Rocchigani-Carl Thompson I
Willie Pastrano-Terry Downes (I've never seen the official score, but by all accounts the challenger was ahead)
Joe Louis-Jersey Joe Walcott II
Archie Moore-Harold Johnson V

[Sidney Carton]

My apologies if some of these were already mentioned:

Joey Maxim-Sugar Ray Robinson
Muhammad Ali-Ron Lyle
Lee Roy Murphy-Chisanda Mutti
Lee Roy Murphy-Marvin Camel
Ralf Rocchigani-Carl Thompson I
Willie Pastrano-Terry Downes (I've never seen the official score, but by all accounts the challenger was ahead)
Joe Louis-Jersey Joe Walcott II
Archie Moore-Harold Johnson V

Good examples.

[orbtastic]

Gonzalez/Sorjturong
John David Jackson/Jorge Castro I
Whittaker/Hurtardo
STurm/Castillejo I

[orbtastic]

bah, didn't see late round.

CAT/Rocchi I was a bit of a freak ending, he ended up flat on his back but only because he dislocated his shoulder, terrible injury.

Thompson/Rothmann

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[APerno]

Good one!

[Sidney Carton]

Rocky Graziano against

Zale--II

Freddie Cochrane (twice)

Charlie Fusari

Tony Janiro

[bwu]

My apologies if some of these were already mentioned:

Joey Maxim-Sugar Ray Robinson
Muhammad Ali-Ron Lyle
Lee Roy Murphy-Chisanda Mutti
Lee Roy Murphy-Marvin Camel
Ralf Rocchigani-Carl Thompson I
Willie Pastrano-Terry Downes (I've never seen the official score, but by all accounts the challenger was ahead)
Joe Louis-Jersey Joe Walcott II
Archie Moore-Harold Johnson V

Good examples.

Thanks! Let's add a few.
Chang-Ho Choi v. Dodie Boy Penalosa
Azumah Nelson v. Wilfredo Gomez
James Toney v. Michael Nunn