Parker should retire
Parker should retire
He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.
I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Parker should retire
Stop crying.
Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old.![[icon_shame.gif] :shame:](./images/smilies/icon_shame.gif)
Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old.
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tiny_acres
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Re: Parker should retire
X2Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.
Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old.![]()
Way too early to call it quits
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SenorPipino
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Re: Parker should retire
A change in trainers may be in the cards.
Parker has to shake that laid back, nice guy attitude, if he wants to get back in the title picture.
Where was the desperation throughout the bout that he showed in the final 2 rounds?
If he fought that way for 12 rounds, Parker would have cruised to victory.
But that attitude doesn't appear to be in his DNA.
Parker has to shake that laid back, nice guy attitude, if he wants to get back in the title picture.
Where was the desperation throughout the bout that he showed in the final 2 rounds?
If he fought that way for 12 rounds, Parker would have cruised to victory.
But that attitude doesn't appear to be in his DNA.
Re: Parker should retire
He's 28, and already looks disinterested, both in the ring and seemingly came in out of shape. I think he's won a title and got a big payday. Mentality is just something that's really hard to fix, especially for when it gets really hard.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.
Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old.![]()
I guess he could get really fat and become a boring plodder, the heavyweight division always needs more of them.
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Re: Parker should retire
who knows what he really feels
he is a young guy at only 26, but sometimes the hearts not in it even at a young age. who knows but joe
taking whyte right after fighting aj didnt really seem like a heart not in it thing though, unless it was just such a good pay day that he wanted to run away with
he is a young guy at only 26, but sometimes the hearts not in it even at a young age. who knows but joe
taking whyte right after fighting aj didnt really seem like a heart not in it thing though, unless it was just such a good pay day that he wanted to run away with
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Parker should retire
He was born in 1992.BitPlayer wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:19He's 28... yadda... yadda... yadda..,Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.
Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old.![]()
Re: Parker should retire
great chin
good straight punch arsenal
imo just needs a better gameplan revolving around his strenght... he approached this fight all wrong
good straight punch arsenal
imo just needs a better gameplan revolving around his strenght... he approached this fight all wrong
Re: Parker should retire
Want to agree with you but don’t want it to take away too much from whytes performance - in particular whytes jab.BitPlayer wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:04 He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.
I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
Maybe all these things can be fixed with a new trainer because he hasn’t improved in some time. I appreciate we are talking heart here but Parker looked very basic and poor on his feet. But maybe it is all to do with heart because when he committed like in the 12th he had success.
Again I wasn’t the one fighting Whyte - easier said that done to look good against him. Just my thoughts as a boxing fan.
Re: Parker should retire
I just typed that wrong, my point was I don't think it's going to be fixed. If anything I think it'll get worse.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:21He was born in 1992.BitPlayer wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:19He's 28... yadda... yadda... yadda..,Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.
Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old.![]()
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Parker should retire
Compare Parker's resume today to Wilder's at the same age.
Re: Parker should retire
Yeah it was a good performance from Whyte, you have to give credit. He's kept improving, showed good power, and amazing heart as alwayslazboy wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:22Want to agree with you but don’t want it to take away too much from whytes performance - in particular whytes jab.BitPlayer wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:04 He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.
I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
Maybe all these things can be fixed with a new trainer because he hasn’t improved in some time. I appreciate we are talking heart here but Parker looked very basic and poor on his feet. But maybe it is all to do with heart because when he committed like in the 12th he had success.
Again I wasn’t the one fighting Whyte - easier said that done to look good against him. Just my thoughts as a boxing fan.
Re: Parker should retire
Parker should retire? I don’t get that one. Fair play to Dillian btw. I didn’t think he could beat Parker. He‘s really coming into form now.
Re: Parker should retire
I agree Parker is talented, I just think he's lost the desire.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:26Compare Parker's resume today to Wilder's at the same age.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Parker should retire
You might be right, because no one knows for sure either way, but it's premature to say so now based on Parker's last round efforts.BitPlayer wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:29I agree Parker is talented, I just think he's lost the desire.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:26Compare Parker's resume today to Wilder's at the same age.
Re: Parker should retire
Retirement maybe a bit far-fetched but some changes would be good for his development. I like Kevin Barry but think Joe has gone as far as he can under his training. Tonights performance was similar to Joe’s foght with Takam and that was 2 years and 7 fights ago.
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Parker should retire
He needs to have a decent break and make a few changes, but definitely no need to retire.
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Like a Boss
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Re: Parker should retire
A 26 year old heavweight who has already held a title and makes millions each fight is finishedBitPlayer wrote: ↑28 Jul 2018, 19:04 He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.
I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
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African Monkey
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Re: Parker should retire
He shouldn't and won't retire, but it's gonna be a long road back for him. Where does he go from here? Back to fighting low level journeymen back here in NZ looks to be on the cards as he's virtually entered gatekeeper territory now.
Re: Parker should retire
The first 4 rounds showed who the better boxer was, then he gave it away. No desire to win.
Re: Parker should retire
That is totally stupid. You think a 26-year-old boxer with 2 losses who makes 6-7 figures a fight should retire? By this logic, Adrien Broner should've retired after the Shawn Porter fight in 2015. Pacquiao should have retired after the Sangsurat fight in 1999. Juan Francisco Estrada should've retired after the Gonzalez fight in 2012. Bernard Hopkins should've retired after the RJJ loss in 1993. You really don't understand the boxing business at all, and this is a totally sh*t thread.
Re: Parker should retire
He should fire his entire team and move his camp, but he shouldn't retire. He's very talented, but he has the wrong mentality.
Re: Parker should retire
Parker was 20 seconds away from taking Whyte out in the last. He'll watch that fight back and kick himself. He's still got plenty left to offer.
Re: Parker should retire
There is that Lucas Browne Australia vs New Zealand big money fight for him out there. But after that you start scratching your head and asking yourself where he goes. Unless he is content to fight only in Bogan-land and New Zealand and defend a regional trinket.
Plenty a New Zeland/Bogan-Land fighter has followed that route when they come up short at elite world level.
Plenty a New Zeland/Bogan-Land fighter has followed that route when they come up short at elite world level.
Re: Parker should retire
Disagree
He is not a top 10 HW because he lacks power, and without power at HW you are always going to drop decisions against the elite guys.
His future is at regional boganland/New Zealand level defending some regional trinket with perhaps the odd trip to Europe.