Parker should retire

BitPlayer
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Parker should retire

Post by BitPlayer »

He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.

I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
Enlightened-One
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Enlightened-One »

Stop crying.

Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old. :shame:
tiny_acres
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by tiny_acres »

Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.

Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old. :shame:
X2
Way too early to call it quits
SenorPipino
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by SenorPipino »

A change in trainers may be in the cards.

Parker has to shake that laid back, nice guy attitude, if he wants to get back in the title picture.

Where was the desperation throughout the bout that he showed in the final 2 rounds?

If he fought that way for 12 rounds, Parker would have cruised to victory.

But that attitude doesn't appear to be in his DNA.
BitPlayer
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by BitPlayer »

Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.

Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old. :shame:
He's 28, and already looks disinterested, both in the ring and seemingly came in out of shape. I think he's won a title and got a big payday. Mentality is just something that's really hard to fix, especially for when it gets really hard.

I guess he could get really fat and become a boring plodder, the heavyweight division always needs more of them.
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jamamb
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by jamamb »

who knows what he really feels

he is a young guy at only 26, but sometimes the hearts not in it even at a young age. who knows but joe

taking whyte right after fighting aj didnt really seem like a heart not in it thing though, unless it was just such a good pay day that he wanted to run away with
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Enlightened-One »

BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:19
Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.

Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old. :shame:
He's 28... yadda... yadda... yadda..,
He was born in 1992.
TheBeast
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by TheBeast »

great chin
good straight punch arsenal


imo just needs a better gameplan revolving around his strenght... he approached this fight all wrong
lazboy
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by lazboy »

BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:04 He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.

I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
Want to agree with you but don’t want it to take away too much from whytes performance - in particular whytes jab.

Maybe all these things can be fixed with a new trainer because he hasn’t improved in some time. I appreciate we are talking heart here but Parker looked very basic and poor on his feet. But maybe it is all to do with heart because when he committed like in the 12th he had success.

Again I wasn’t the one fighting Whyte - easier said that done to look good against him. Just my thoughts as a boxing fan.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by BitPlayer »

Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:21
BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:19
Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:07 Stop crying.

Your claim is also premature. The kid is only 26 years old. :shame:
He's 28... yadda... yadda... yadda..,
He was born in 1992.
I just typed that wrong, my point was I don't think it's going to be fixed. If anything I think it'll get worse.
Enlightened-One
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Enlightened-One »

BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:25
Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:21
BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:19
He's 28... yadda... yadda... yadda..,
He was born in 1992.
I just typed that wrong, my point was I don't think it's going to be fixed. If anything I think it'll get worse.
Compare Parker's resume today to Wilder's at the same age.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by BitPlayer »

lazboy wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:22
BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:04 He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.

I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
Want to agree with you but don’t want it to take away too much from whytes performance - in particular whytes jab.

Maybe all these things can be fixed with a new trainer because he hasn’t improved in some time. I appreciate we are talking heart here but Parker looked very basic and poor on his feet. But maybe it is all to do with heart because when he committed like in the 12th he had success.

Again I wasn’t the one fighting Whyte - easier said that done to look good against him. Just my thoughts as a boxing fan.
Yeah it was a good performance from Whyte, you have to give credit. He's kept improving, showed good power, and amazing heart as always
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Noxy »

Parker should retire? I don’t get that one. Fair play to Dillian btw. I didn’t think he could beat Parker. He‘s really coming into form now.
BitPlayer
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by BitPlayer »

Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:26
BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:25
Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:21
He was born in 1992.
I just typed that wrong, my point was I don't think it's going to be fixed. If anything I think it'll get worse.
Compare Parker's resume today to Wilder's at the same age.
I agree Parker is talented, I just think he's lost the desire.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Enlightened-One »

BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:29
Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:26
BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:25
I just typed that wrong, my point was I don't think it's going to be fixed. If anything I think it'll get worse.
Compare Parker's resume today to Wilder's at the same age.
I agree Parker is talented, I just think he's lost the desire.
You might be right, because no one knows for sure either way, but it's premature to say so now based on Parker's last round efforts.
nmhz
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by nmhz »

Retirement maybe a bit far-fetched but some changes would be good for his development. I like Kevin Barry but think Joe has gone as far as he can under his training. Tonights performance was similar to Joe’s foght with Takam and that was 2 years and 7 fights ago.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Boxerbeetle »

He needs to have a decent break and make a few changes, but definitely no need to retire.
Like a Boss
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Re: Parker should retire

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BitPlayer wrote: 28 Jul 2018, 19:04 He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.

I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.
A 26 year old heavweight who has already held a title and makes millions each fight is finished :lol:
African Monkey
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by African Monkey »

He shouldn't and won't retire, but it's gonna be a long road back for him. Where does he go from here? Back to fighting low level journeymen back here in NZ looks to be on the cards as he's virtually entered gatekeeper territory now.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by KiwiRider »

The first 4 rounds showed who the better boxer was, then he gave it away. No desire to win.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Lackeos »

That is totally stupid. You think a 26-year-old boxer with 2 losses who makes 6-7 figures a fight should retire? By this logic, Adrien Broner should've retired after the Shawn Porter fight in 2015. Pacquiao should have retired after the Sangsurat fight in 1999. Juan Francisco Estrada should've retired after the Gonzalez fight in 2012. Bernard Hopkins should've retired after the RJJ loss in 1993. You really don't understand the boxing business at all, and this is a totally sh*t thread.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Mexi-Box »

He should fire his entire team and move his camp, but he shouldn't retire. He's very talented, but he has the wrong mentality.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by Stuarty »

Parker was 20 seconds away from taking Whyte out in the last. He'll watch that fight back and kick himself. He's still got plenty left to offer.
BigBenHo
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by BigBenHo »

There is that Lucas Browne Australia vs New Zealand big money fight for him out there. But after that you start scratching your head and asking yourself where he goes. Unless he is content to fight only in Bogan-land and New Zealand and defend a regional trinket. :TU:

Plenty a New Zeland/Bogan-Land fighter has followed that route when they come up short at elite world level.
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Re: Parker should retire

Post by BigBenHo »

Stuarty wrote: 29 Jul 2018, 01:30 Parker was 20 seconds away from taking Whyte out in the last. He'll watch that fight back and kick himself. He's still got plenty left to offer.
Disagree

He is not a top 10 HW because he lacks power, and without power at HW you are always going to drop decisions against the elite guys.

His future is at regional boganland/New Zealand level defending some regional trinket with perhaps the odd trip to Europe.
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