Jarrell Miller vs. Tomasz Adamek - October 6, 2018

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According to Dan, it's in the works.. Gross mismatch!

Only due to Adamek being Polish and Chicago has a good % of Poles living there.

Thoughts on this?

[dagilechia]

99% this fight will be officially announced wednesday.

I see similar scenario like in Adamek-Molina fight - Adamek outpointing/trying to outpoint Miller and eventually gets stopped late. I dont think it's a huge mismatch. Ortiz-Cojanu, Whyte-Helenius, Wilder-Arreola or Povetkin-Rudenko were, at least on paper, not better

[Ruthless-RKO]

99% this fight will be officially announced wednesday.

I see similar scenario like in Adamek-Molina fight - Adamek outpointing/trying to outpoint Miller and eventually gets stopped late. I dont think it's a huge mismatch. Ortiz-Cojanu, Whyte-Helenius, Wilder-Arreola or Povetkin-Rudenko were, at least on paper, not better

Would Adamek win rounds? Adamek isn't exactly young anymore. Can't see him moving well and boxing around Miller. Miller is pressure fighter. How did Adamek do against Abell?

[dagilechia]

99% this fight will be officially announced wednesday.

I see similar scenario like in Adamek-Molina fight - Adamek outpointing/trying to outpoint Miller and eventually gets stopped late. I dont think it's a huge mismatch. Ortiz-Cojanu, Whyte-Helenius, Wilder-Arreola or Povetkin-Rudenko were, at least on paper, not better

Would Adamek win rounds? Adamek isn't exactly young anymore. Can't see him moving well and boxing around Miller. Miller is pressure fighter. How did Adamek do against Abell?

Adamek, since he moved from Bloodworth to Gus Curren and Jakub Chycki, is better prepared and faster than before (for example, in a Szpilka fight he was heaviest in his career and prepared for this fight in a school gym in his hometown village and lived at mom's house). He totally outclassed Abell, i think he had him down 4 times in rounds 2, 6 and 7, looked good but Abell looked vulnerable every time when Adamek attacked, especially when attacked to Abells body. Adamek looked unimpressed by Abells power. Adamek was koed by Molina but in his opinion the fight was stopped prematurely (i think this was a good stoppage but yeah this referre is known for premature stoppages) and if allowed to contiunue he would win this fight since he was wide ahead on the scorecards and it was only 2 rounds left.

My prediction is - very close fight, draw on the scorecards but Adamek gets stopped in 8-10. Big difference in power but Adamek even at that age seems to be faster than Big Baby

And one more thing - before Hearn tried to make Miller-Szpilka and despite the fact that Adamek lost to him (under cimcurstances i mentioned above) and despite the fact that Adamek is almost 42, i think that Adamek is a better opponent, Szpilka after Wilder and Babyface koed him brutally seems that lost his heart, even wanted to move to mma for a fight with 45-years old actor. I think that Adamek could beat Szpilka in rematch.

[dagilechia]

But if they really want to make Miller vs Polish fighter, then the best choice is Izu Ugonoh. Now he's not the same fighter that stupidly lost against Breazeale, now he's got an decent trainer that will actually have a tactical plan, not only all in and get back with your shield or on it. And Izu is a smart guy, he will listen to his trainer now.

[Ruthless-RKO]

But if they really want to make Miller vs Polish fighter, then the best choice is Izu Ugonoh. Now he's not the same fighter that stupidly lost against Breazeale, now he's got an decent trainer that will actually have a tactical plan, not only all in and get back with your shield or on it. And Izu is a smart guy, he will listen to his trainer now.

Ah. Now I like that fight.

[DrDuke]

It's quite a mismatch. Adamek is old, Miller is rising. Miller will most likely maul Adamek down to the late stoppage.

[joshj909]

I can see Miller dropping more rounds than people think. I think he'll win by late stoppage but some of the fight will be competitive at least.

Adamek is the best boxer he will have faced (in terms of pure boxing ability), it's just whether his own age and size will be too much to overcome.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It's quite a mismatch. Adamek is old, Miller is rising. Miller will most likely maul Adamek down to the late stoppage.

Most likely scenario. He will want to make a statement and finish it quick. His last 2 fights have gone late.

I can see Miller dropping more rounds than people think. I think he'll win by late stoppage but some of the fight will be competitive at least.

Adamek is the best boxer he will have faced (in terms of pure boxing ability), it's just whether his age and size will be too much to overcome.

Adamek will be the best boxer on Miller's resume. But definitely not the best Adamek he will have fought.

[dagilechia]

Adamek still has some speed and enough stamina. He's now got some physical strength, but of course Jarrell Miller is a 300lbs buffalo. Adameks problem is rather punching power than psychical strength. And the most deciding factor - his chin. Despite the ko loss to Molina i think that Adameks chin is above average. Miller rather stops his opponents on thier feet by volume punching rather than by one ko punch that puts to sleep. Its winnable for Adamek but the chances are small

[dagilechia]

I think that Adamek beats the likes of Cojanu, Helenius or Rudenko (all of them on points) so its not that much of a missmatch

[Ruthless-RKO]

Adamek still has some speed and enough stamina. He's now got some physical strength, but of course Jarrell Miller is a 300lbs buffalo. Adameks problem is rather punching power than psychical strength. And the most deciding factor - his chin. Despite the ko loss to Molina i think that Adameks chin is above average. Miller rather stops his opponents on thier feet by volume punching rather than by one ko punch that puts to sleep. Its winnable for Adamek but the chances are small

Let's face a few facts. The fight is being made by Hearn to kind of showcase Miller. Adamek is still a name, a good name for sure, he's definitely past his prime, I wouldn't call him shot. Also, the fight is being made because he's Polish and Chicago has a good % of Poles, so should attract interest. Adamak will come to fight though.

[dagilechia]

Yeah Adamek is still in Poland. He twice sold +200.000 ppv's in Poland which is a huge number here. Even his Haumono and Abell fights were in ppv and still did good numbers. I guess that Polish community in USA misses him (and times when Poland had at least one world class boxing star fighting on American soil) a lot and he's probably still a big name in NY/NJ area and Chicago, arguably still the most followed Polish boxer there. Smart move by Hearn also because Polish boxing fans in USA usually make very good atmosphere too. Adamek is in the best shape since he fought Vitali but of course he is also much older. But his camps are 100% professional now, not like during Bloodworth times.

[joshj909]

Let's face a few facts. The fight is being made by Hearn to kind of showcase Miller. Adamek is still a name, a good name for sure, he's definitely past his prime, I wouldn't call him shot. Also, the fight is being made because he's Polish and Chicago has a good % of Poles, so should attract interest. Adamak will come to fight though.

This basically sums it all up. Other highly ranked boxers face worse names than Adamek on a regular basis and get less complaints. It ticks all the boxes from a promoter point of view: sells arena tickets and TV viewers; showcases the fighter against a known name; not massive risk of losing; gives Miller an opportunity to run his mouth on mic after his win on the new platform and boost chances of making headline news.

[Stuarty]

Adamek is too shot to make a dent in Miller....

[Ruthless-RKO]

This basically sums it all up. Other highly ranked boxers face worse names than Adamek on a regular basis and get less complaints. It ticks all the boxes from a promoter point of view: sells arena tickets and TV viewers; showcases the fighter against a known name; not massive risk of losing; gives Miller an opportunity to run his mouth on mic after his win on the new platform and boost chances of making headline news.

I just hope he doesn't run his in the build up and show the former two-weight world champion some respect.

[Stuarty]

Miller is a fuckin cretin. Can't stick him.

[joshj909]

This basically sums it all up. Other highly ranked boxers face worse names than Adamek on a regular basis and get less complaints. It ticks all the boxes from a promoter point of view: sells arena tickets and TV viewers; showcases the fighter against a known name; not massive risk of losing; gives Miller an opportunity to run his mouth on mic after his win on the new platform and boost chances of making headline news.

I just hope he doesn't run his in the build up and show the former two-weight world champion some respect.

It appears that Miller has no shame in what he's willing to say to promote a fight or to try get a fight he doesn't deserve, so i imagine he's going to be dumb enough to criticise Adamek for being small and old and effectively poking holes in any credibility of his win.

[Ruthless-RKO]

This basically sums it all up. Other highly ranked boxers face worse names than Adamek on a regular basis and get less complaints. It ticks all the boxes from a promoter point of view: sells arena tickets and TV viewers; showcases the fighter against a known name; not massive risk of losing; gives Miller an opportunity to run his mouth on mic after his win on the new platform and boost chances of making headline news.

I just hope he doesn't run his in the build up and show the former two-weight world champion some respect.

It appears that Miller has no shame in what he's willing to say to promote a fight or to try get a fight he doesn't deserve, so i imagine he's going to be dumb enough to criticise Adamek for being small and old and effectively poking holes in any credibility of his win.

Basically yeh. I agree. A win over Adamek would be much more credible if he shows respect. Talks Adamek up, like he's somewhat of a threat etc. Not saying overdo it like it's a life/death fight, but you're right. Miller is always going to be dumb first.

[KiwiRider]

But if they really want to make Miller vs Polish fighter, then the best choice is Izu Ugonoh. Now he's not the same fighter that stupidly lost against Breazeale, now he's got an decent trainer that will actually have a tactical plan, not only all in and get back with your shield or on it. And Izu is a smart guy, he will listen to his trainer now.

Yeah, that would be decent.
Flippin' Kevin Barry is hopeless, every boxer he has trained falls on their arse at the A level- without exception. I wish Izu all the best and would love to see him beat the buffet out of Miller.

[Enlightened-One]

I’m disappointed about Jarrell Miller facing a shot fighter like Tomasz Adamek. This fight serves no purpose.

[jujigatame]

This sort of matchmaking is why the HW division sucks. Miller should be fighting someone like Ortiz, Whyte, Breazeale, etc. Instead he fights a 41 year old Adamek who will probably be a +1000 underdog.

[Pukka Cheese]

Can understand not wanting to go to Bulgaria to fight Pulev but to drop down to this......

poor.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Can understand not wanting to go to Bulgaria to fight Pulev but to drop down to this......

poor.

Yeh. It's no offence to Adamek, but it's a huge step down from his last 2 fights.

[jamamb]

i hate these type of fights ,where a guy cherry picks a name fighter clearly way past there best.