Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Aug 2018, 04:54
People shouldn’t use the comparison of photos of Canelo’s physique throughout the years as a barometer to determine his alleged guilt of consuming PED’s, because that’s incredibly unreliable criteria.
Based on my own review of the training footage, there is no discernible difference between Canelo’s physique from the first bout against Golovkin to those recently published for the rematch.
I for one am not reviewing previous videos or pics and comparing. Just watching that video, he looks rather small. His face too, maybe it's the camera , or because of his hair. I don't know. It doesn't bother me to be honest. But that's just me looking at the video,
I wasn’t really complaining about your post, but I’ve interpreted some of the comments in this thread (and several others) alleging that Canelo’s physique has undergone a drastic change to the point that he’s gone from being as bulky as Mike Tyson to becoming as frail as Guillermo Rigondeaux. People like to exaggerate.
I have compared Canelo’s current physique against training footage for his previous fight against Golovkin and there doesn’t appear to be any discernible difference.
I am happy for other people to disagree with me, since no one can be proven “right” about their opinion without having access to reliable measurements of Canelo’s dimensions for both of his GGG training camps.
I bet you’d like to measure him wouldn’t you...and make a suit out of his skin! It puts the clenbuterol on the skin or else it gets the hose again!!!
Just joking EO - I agree, haven’t seen much of a difference but who really knows, may have to wait for fight night...even weigh in may be hard to assess given how drained he’ll most likely be.
lazboy wrote: ↑13 Aug 2018, 06:03
I bet you’d like to measure him wouldn’t you...and make a suit out of his skin! It puts the clenbuterol on the skin or else it gets the hose again!!!
You mean Golovkin, the noble warrior who insisted he fights for titles and the sport's honor?
But then did a public about face and whined and cried like a petulant middle schooler, and wouldn't sign until Oscar had to dip into his own pockets to cover Golovkin's newfound greed.
Clean? Maybe.
Truthful? More like a choir boy-faced BS artist.
Golovkin was disrespected! He's an elite world class boxer. He ain't that supid to fight for peanuts especially after what Canelo and his master did.
I'd respect Golovkin more if he admitted that he's money-grubbing like every other athlete on our planet, and that honor and titles aren't really his priorities.
In what way has Golovkin really suffered so much that he deserves additional compensation?
The Canelo fight was postponed from May to September. Four months, so what? It's still occurring. Same difference.
Golovkin fought Martiroysan on Cinco de Mayo, so guess what? That means Golovkin will have the same 2-fight schedule that he originally planned for 2018 anyway. So where are the damages?
Golovkin was stripped of his IBF championship? Whose fault is that? He could have retained it by fighting a willing Derevyanchenko. He was ready, eager and able.
But Golovkin mysteriously said 'nyet' and paid the consequences. Why should Canelo feel any guilt for that? It's not his responsibility to micromanage Golovkin's career choices.
So really Greedy G should be kissing the Mexican soil that Canelo trains on for acquiescing and allowing Oscar to undeservedly raise Golovkin's salary.
It kind of gives lie to those who always insist that GBP and Canelo are waiting for Golovkin to grow older. They could have justifiably walked away from the September fight when noble Golovkin suddenly demanded mas dinero. Instead they could have revisited it for next May when ancient Golovkin was 8 months older.
But GBP and Canelo instead generously opened the vault for Golovkin and said "We want you now."
Apparently they're licking their chops at the anticipation of getting Golovkin back in the ring.
Wonder why.
You wouldn't respect Golovkin any more no matter what he did because you're clearly biased.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Aug 2018, 04:54
People shouldn’t use the comparison of photos of Canelo’s physique throughout the years as a barometer to determine his alleged guilt of consuming PED’s, because that’s incredibly unreliable criteria.
Based on my own review of the training footage, there is no discernible difference between Canelo’s physique from the first bout against Golovkin to those recently published for the rematch.
I for one am not reviewing previous videos or pics and comparing. Just watching that video, he looks rather small. His face too, maybe it's the camera , or because of his hair. I don't know. It doesn't bother me to be honest. But that's just me looking at the video,
I wasn’t really complaining about your post, but I’ve interpreted some of the comments in this thread (and several others) alleging that Canelo’s physique has undergone a drastic change to the point that he’s gone from being as bulky as Mike Tyson to becoming as frail as Guillermo Rigondeaux. People like to exaggerate.
I have compared Canelo’s current physique against training footage for his previous fight against Golovkin and there doesn’t appear to be any discernible difference.
I am happy for other people to disagree with me, since no one can be proven “right” about their opinion without having access to reliable measurements of Canelo’s dimensions for both of his GGG training camps.
Some people said he looked a bit smaller. The exaggeration was all your own work
I for one am not reviewing previous videos or pics and comparing. Just watching that video, he looks rather small. His face too, maybe it's the camera , or because of his hair. I don't know. It doesn't bother me to be honest. But that's just me looking at the video,
I wasn’t really complaining about your post, but I’ve interpreted some of the comments in this thread (and several others) alleging that Canelo’s physique has undergone a drastic change to the point that he’s gone from being as bulky as Mike Tyson to becoming as frail as Guillermo Rigondeaux. People like to exaggerate.
I have compared Canelo’s current physique against training footage for his previous fight against Golovkin and there doesn’t appear to be any discernible difference.
I am happy for other people to disagree with me, since no one can be proven “right” about their opinion without having access to reliable measurements of Canelo’s dimensions for both of his GGG training camps.
Some people said he looked a bit smaller. The exaggeration was all your own work
I stand by my words in regards to this matter, because it's an undeniable truth of reality that some people are making unsubstantiated claims about Canelo's alleged significant physical transformation.
Look at how Canelo looked at 164.5lbs for Chavez then 160lbs for GGG. Does anyone notice any diiferences? Between then is when any cycling could have and possibly was done (Chavez posed no threat whatsoever so no need for an extra boost there) It's silly to condemn solely based on pictures, but we have more evidence than that now don't we.
I'd be interested to know who really thinks he is innocent and why, and how solid the why really is.
SFW wrote: ↑12 Aug 2018, 11:33
I think Canelo had been suspect for a long time, and not surprisingly he finally got caught. That doesn't necessarily convict his whole career but it's extraordinarily stupid to think his failed tests were magically the first time he ever did anything. Just some sad fantasy his supporters cling to. It's really funny how that camp of douche bags with every advantage possible handed to them were stupid enough to get caught. It's common knowledge only the stupid ones get caught, and stupid follows stupid. Hence Canelhoes.
Yes it will affect Canelo, it already has mentally. He's had to hear about his bitch move cheating since the day it was revealed. Physically their could be a few affects but the notable one might be punch resistance. He won't be taking the shots as well as he did that first "clean" lol fight. Good God if you think passing a couple weak planned tests is concrete proof a mega star is clean that's beyond embarrassing. You'd have to ignore everything said on the subject for years. . . . F a n t a s y.
I do hope Golovkin has enough left in him to get a knockdown or two. Of course, at least one judge will score that round even because Canelo landed face first so he was obviously winning right.. the best case scenario for boxing is Canelo sparked out cold with a lil Ingemar leg to boot. I'd pay extra for that.
