Best Heavyweight outside the Top 10 TBRB

[candyslim]

Especially at the age of 37. He won't be getting any better that's for sure.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Especially at the age of 37. He won't be getting any better that's for sure.

I think we'll see him back in the UK. He's still a tough guy and would be a tough fight for a lot of the guys. Especially some of the younger guys. He probably won't want to taste too many defeats though.

[dagilechia]

Would like to see Takam vs Dubois fight

[Ruthless-RKO]

Would like to see Takam vs Dubois fight

Would be a good one.

[candyslim]

Maybe a little early for DDD. Takam is a big ask for a kid of 20 however promising (Sorry Mike no I haven't forgotten you) and if he were to win where does he go from there?

I mean you beat Takam and fans aren't then necessarily going to take kindly to the news that your next fight is against Ian Lewison or Dominis Akinlade. A nice steady progression please Mr. Matchmaker, ah yes the 'Kingpin' will be just about perfect.

[dagilechia]

Maybe a little early for DDD. Takam is a big ask for a kid of 20 however promising (Sorry Mike no I haven't forgotten you) and if he were to win where does he go from there?

I mean you beat Takam and fans aren't then necessarily going to take kindly to the news that your next fight is against Ian Lewison or Dominis Akinlade. A nice steady progression please Mr. Matchmaker, ah yes the 'Kingpin' will be just about perfect.

In fact, Dubois' next opponent is better than the last opponent of Tyson Fury. Looking at it this way it seems not bad.

[candyslim]

Yes. Piano-shifter threw in the towel after seven frames er I mean rounds against the Kingpin not too long ago if proof were needed.

[493dart]

Pulev, probably Kabayel and Hughie (disclaimer: even if Hughie loses to Pulev, that won't be strong evidence that he doesn't belong).

By the way, I see that you have Chisora ranked above Fury. I'm going to make a very controversial statement, but... I think Tyson Fury would beat Chisora if they ever fought.

they fought in 2014.........

[marvelous marv]

Amir Mansour deserves a mention.

[jamamb]

i feel amir mansours kinda on the way down, only 1 win in over 2.5 years and that was a close one vs kauffman. did not look good in the short time vs kuzman

thered be a lot more guys id nominate for the next spot then him. will be interesting to see how he does vs hrgovic. always wondered how mansour wouldve done if he hadnt had so many of his younger years spent outside the ring. and maybe if hed been at cruiser. he did very well for a guy who was like 40 and over when he started with serious fights and was well undersized at hw. clearly had some really good raw material to work with, but im not sure he really was even close to maximizing the natural potential he had.

[actjac]

1 Anthony Joshua
2 Deontay Wilder
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4 Dillian Whyte
5 Luis Ortiz
6 Alexander Povetkin
7 Jarrell Miller
8. Tyson Fury
9. Joseph Parker
10. Kubrat Pulev

11. Trevor Bryan
12. Adam Kownacki
13. Oscar Rivas
14. Hughie Fury
15. Andy Ruiz Jr.
16. Dominic Breazeale
17. Zhang Zhilei
18. Agit Kabayel
19. Tyrone Spong
20, Tom Schwartz

21. Otto Wallin
22. Filip Hrgovic
23. Simon Kean
24. Tony Yoka
25. Joe Joyce
26. George Arias
27. Daniel Dubois
28. Efe Ajagba
29. Bryant Jennings
30. Junlong Zhang

[jamamb]

why do you rank bryan so high? because he really hasnt beaten anyone and to me looks not impressive at all. i know galen brown who posts here fought him and seemed to rate him not very high compared to a lot of the others hes fought

and takam and chisora not even top 30?

also dont think usyk can really be classified as a hw when hes been fighting as cruiser

thanks for posting though, ratings can get really hard to do when you go past the top 10 or so, becomes really hard to split guys and theres a lot of variance that could be jusitified

[candyslim]

Pulev, probably Kabayel and Hughie (disclaimer: even if Hughie loses to Pulev, that won't be strong evidence that he doesn't belong).

By the way, I see that you have Chisora ranked above Fury. I'm going to make a very controversial statement, but... I think Tyson Fury would beat Chisora if they ever fought.

they fought in 2014.........

I'm very sure he knew they fought twice before. That was Lackeos being ironic.

[candyslim]

1 Anthony Joshua
2 Deontay Wilder
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4 Dillian Whyte
5 Luis Ortiz
6 Alexander Povetkin
7 Jarrell Miller
8. Tyson Fury
9. Joseph Parker
10. Kubrat Pulev

11. Trevor Bryan
12. Adam Kownacki
13. Oscar Rivas
14. Hughie Fury
15. Andy Ruiz Jr.
16. Dominic Breazeale
17. Zhang Zhilei
18. Agit Kabayel
19. Tyrone Spong
20, Tom Schwartz

21. Otto Wallin
22. Filip Hrgovic
23. Simon Kean
24. Tony Yoka
25. Joe Joyce
26. George Arias
27. Daniel Dubois
28. Efe Ajagba
29. Bryant Jennings
30. Junlong Zhang

Tyrone Spong in the top 20?

If it were not for the fact you have Zhang Jun Long down at 30 I'd be thinking that actjac was the latest incarnation of astradamus aka asdfjkl. Even now I'm not entirely sure.

[digzee]

Maybe a little early for DDD. Takam is a big ask for a kid of 20 however promising (Sorry Mike no I haven't forgotten you) and if he were to win where does he go from there?

I mean you beat Takam and fans aren't then necessarily going to take kindly to the news that your next fight is against Ian Lewison or Dominis Akinlade. A nice steady progression please Mr. Matchmaker, ah yes the 'Kingpin' will be just about perfect.

Yeh its far far too early, maybe by next December DDD would be ready. Takam would be a great opponent for Joyce, Joyce needs some to go rounds and Takam should be able to take Joyce to the latter rounds, especially if he fights more cautiously like he did against AJ.

[actjac]

why do you rank bryan so high? because he really hasnt beaten anyone and to me looks not impressive at all. i know galen brown who posts here fought him and seemed to rate him not very high compared to a lot of the others hes fought

and takam and chisora not even top 30?

also dont think usyk can really be classified as a hw when hes been fighting as cruiser

thanks for posting though, ratings can get really hard to do when you go past the top 10 or so, becomes really hard to split guys and theres a lot of variance that could be jusitified

Bryan is a talent and on the way up having won a version of the WBA heavyweight title. . . .Takam and Chisora are gatekeepers now while the others are in the way up while these two are not.. . . .As far as Usyk I do not see him competing as a Cruiser again and in fact will fight Bellew as a heavyweight albeit around 210-215.

[actjac]

1 Anthony Joshua
2 Deontay Wilder
3. Oleksandr Usyk
4 Dillian Whyte
5 Luis Ortiz
6 Alexander Povetkin
7 Jarrell Miller
8. Tyson Fury
9. Joseph Parker
10. Kubrat Pulev

11. Trevor Bryan
12. Adam Kownacki
13. Oscar Rivas
14. Hughie Fury
15. Andy Ruiz Jr.
16. Dominic Breazeale
17. Zhang Zhilei
18. Agit Kabayel
19. Tyrone Spong
20, Tom Schwartz

21. Otto Wallin
22. Filip Hrgovic
23. Simon Kean
24. Tony Yoka
25. Joe Joyce
26. George Arias
27. Daniel Dubois
28. Efe Ajagba
29. Bryant Jennings
30. Junlong Zhang

Tyrone Spong in the top 20?

If it were not for the fact you have Zhang Jun Long down at 30 I'd be thinking that actjac was the latest incarnation of astradamus aka asdfjkl. Even now I'm not entirely sure.

Spong is there based on his deep history and accomplishments as a kickboxer as well as the fact that he is an undefeated. boxer . . . If Rico Verhoeven had continued his boxing only career I would have him on the top 30 list.

[candyslim]

Ok but no denial about the identity quetion I notice

[jamamb]

lol dude gets to #11 beating bj flores up at hw ? bizarre. where would bj flores rank in this list?

meanwhile chis was practically even with #4 but not in at all, instead guys like the zhang boys feasting on nobodies are

that list is way too favorable toward record padding

[Ruthless-RKO]

lol dude gets to #11 beating bj flores up at hw ? bizarre. where would bj flores rank in this list?

meanwhile chis was practically even with #4 but not in at all, instead guys like the zhang boys feasting on nobodies are

that list is way too favorable toward record padding

[Ruthless-RKO]

LOL at Guillermo Jones STILL in the rankings. Also Ustinov. Not long ago they still had Briggs.

The WBA enjoys the veterans. Lol

[jamamb]

ya thats wba ranking (who da eff is chris lovejoy), but i mean actjacs own ratings

[Ruthless-RKO]

ya thats wba ranking (who da eff is chris lovejoy), but i mean actjacs own ratings

I know. I just thought I’d throw the WBA rankings in there.

No idea about this Lovejoy guy. He’s Murican.

[Ruthless-RKO]

ya thats wba ranking (who da eff is chris lovejoy), but i mean actjacs own ratings

He’s 12-0 with 12 KO’s.

34 year old. Been a pro for 2 years.

Nicknamed ‘Pretty Boy’..

Not beaten anyone. Just mostly debutants and guys with losing records.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/746640

[jamamb]

jesus, on what basis does a guy like that even get noticed by the wba