tony1234 wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 15:33
The hype train is derailed, if he is KO'd he can say he was caught cold etc but if he gets outpointed or outfought then it would be tough to build him up again as the unbeaten record and invincibility has gone.
He could come back from a Fury or Wilder loss but coming back from a defeat by Povetkin would be hard work.
ZERO chance of him being outpointed. KO'd, yeah that can happen, but Povetkin outboxing him? No f*cking way that even come closes to happening.
Povitkin ain't gonna land the jab much either.
It's not even just the short arms thing. His Ring IQ sucks. Here lately he'll throw like 30 or 40 left hooks for every right hand even though his right hand is his money punch, and is far more accurate. He usually bounces left hooks off of gloves or misses oodles of 'em just for the hell of it first.
Against that Rabchenko guy the right hand was there ALL. NIGHT. LONG, and he just wouldn't throw it.
I don't think he's a particularly smart fighter, couple that with his physical disadvantage, and that's why I say he has ZERO chance of outpointing AJ.
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 13:07
I’m in the minority there then who thinks it would be shite for the sport?
Povetkin, proven drug cheat, beats the best chance of an elite level heavyweight for a generation? Fvck Eddie, I dont like him as much as the next man but I want a top tier heavyweight, and more importantly, massive heavyweight fights between Joshua/Wilder/Fury.
As for financial trouble....Joshua is apparently going to bag himself £20m for this fight! He starts losing and the big paydays other fighters are hoping for against him, completely disappear.
Safe to say Joshua wont suffer too much financially if he does lose. He’ll earn more in this fight than Fury and Wilder will earn combined fighting each other. He’s different level when it comes to the £££
Yeah I agree. For all the schadenfreude and temporary amusement that would naturally ensue should Joshua lose, a Povetkin win would be utter shite for boxing.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 15:48
It's not even just the short arms thing. His Ring IQ sucks. Here lately he'll throw like 30 or 40 left hooks for every right hand even though his right hand is his money punch, and is far more accurate. He usually bounces left hooks off of gloves or misses oodles of 'em just for the hell of it first.
Against that Rabchenko guy the right hand was there ALL. NIGHT. LONG, and he just wouldn't throw it.
I don't think he's a particularly smart fighter, couple that with his physical disadvantage, and that's why I say he has ZERO chance of outpointing AJ.
I have to agree. Good summation.
I can only add that if Povitkin doesn't manage to KO Joshua by the end of the 5th, father time and AJ getting the measure of him means it will be all downhill from then on.
Putting boxing in the UK firmly back into a dark corner, whatever you think of AJ and all the things which come with him, him winning is good for boxing in the UK it keeps people interested in the sport.
dalcumly wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 14:43
yes, Joshua is never going to be poor but when you're no longer the heavyweight champion and your invincibility bubble has burst where's the new contract with Under Armour etc. Where's the appearance money on this show and that show. There's an awful lot of people on the Joshua payroll.
By the way, and not being an accountant, can someone answer me this . If Joshua earns £20 million from this fight, does 25% not go to his manager and a further 10% goes to his trainer? That could equate to about £7 million being whacked off. If someone earns more than £100,000 a year do they not pay tax at 40%. I would guess that Joshua's pay out of £20 will be about £7 million. Great reward, and making him very rich ,but people with this amount of money don't live like you and I. They don't haggle with the car salesman to get a few hundred knocked off the 3 year old Mondeo. They don't have a fortnight's holiday in Benidorm and they don't rent a flat for a few hundred a month.
He will have accountants and lawyers who will advise and wealth management consultants , but they all need agents fees.
Towards the end of Henry Cooper's career, he was probably the most famous sportsman in the UK, and very wealthy. He became a 'member' at Lloyds. When the Torry Canyon sunk with a full cargo the insurance was covered by Henry's group at Llyods. He was bankrupted and had to sell his 3 Lonsdale Belts to survive.
When you live like a king, you need to keep earning, and a defeat to Povetkin would hurt. Just ask Mike Tyson.
Joshua won’t have paid for a vehicle since he turned pro. You think he spent a penny on his top of the range, Range Rover? He’s sponsored by them isn’t he?
From what I’ve read he’s a pretty simple fella in terms of lifestyle. Hasn’t he bought and renovated a huge country gaff whilst living at his mums flat or something? His holidays are bought and paid for by others who want him holidaying at their resorts etc
Thesedays it seems hard to buy stuff if you’re rich, famous and very popular!
