WBSS season 2 UK TV?

[jamamb]

i personally think paul butler simply isnt near the level of most of these guys and will tend to flatter high level opponents. to me there is a big gulf between guys like butler and stuey hall compared to several of the guys in this tournament. even randy caballero was doing a 9-3 job on hall but then could hardly win a round vs diego de la hoya. to me the title merry go round between butler-hall-haskins are cases of euro level guys fighting for world titles

i personally think moloney is a much tougher opponent for rodriguez then butler was and i am looking forward to it . i notice that graham houston, whose one of the best predictors imo, is giving moloney a very good chance

i dont know if moloney will win, but looking at the lopsided odds i think some are sleeping on him due to unfamuiliarity, while perhaps overrating rod due to his butler dominance. butler looked absolutely useless vs tete and rodriguez and im not sure its simply because those two are special

aside from butler, manny doesnt really have anyone on his resume either, at least none that seperate him from moloney

[Boxing Prospect]

i personally think paul butler simply isnt near the level of most of these guys and will tend to flatter high level opponents. to me there is a big gulf between guys like butler and stuey hall compared to several of the guys in this tournament. even randy caballero was doing a 9-3 job on hall but then could hardly win a round vs diego de la hoya. to me the title merry go round between butler-hall-haskins are cases of euro level guys fighting for world titles

i personally think moloney is a much tougher opponent for rodriguez then butler was and i am looking forward to it . i notice that graham houston, whose one of the best predictors imo, is giving moloney a very good chance

i dont know if moloney will win, but looking at the lopsided odds i think some are sleeping on him due to unfamuiliarity, while perhaps overrating rod due to his butler dominance. butler looked absolutely useless vs tete and rodriguez and im not sure its simply because those two are special

aside from butler, manny doesnt really have anyone on his resume either, at least none that seperate him from moloney

Agree with every word. We were told for so long that Butler was special but he wasn't, and was never big enough to compete with decent natural Bantamweights

[handsofstone]

i personally think paul butler simply isnt near the level of most of these guys and will tend to flatter high level opponents. to me there is a big gulf between guys like butler and stuey hall compared to several of the guys in this tournament. even randy caballero was doing a 9-3 job on hall but then could hardly win a round vs diego de la hoya. to me the title merry go round between butler-hall-haskins are cases of euro level guys fighting for world titles

i personally think moloney is a much tougher opponent for rodriguez then butler was and i am looking forward to it . i notice that graham houston, whose one of the best predictors imo, is giving moloney a very good chance

i dont know if moloney will win, but looking at the lopsided odds i think some are sleeping on him due to unfamuiliarity, while perhaps overrating rod due to his butler dominance. butler looked absolutely useless vs tete and rodriguez and im not sure its simply because those two are special

aside from butler, manny doesnt really have anyone on his resume either, at least none that seperate him from moloney

Aye while I disagree I can see where your coming from, Moloney's best win may be better than Rodriguez's, I'm looking forward to it, hopefully its better than last weeks WBSS fights

[handsofstone]

The second Cruiserweight QF between Yunier Dorticos vs Mateusz Masternak this weekend too, could be an interesting fight, Dorticos coming off that epic fight with Gassiev, intrigued to see how he copes coming off his first loss, he had his moments in that fight for the first 8 rounds or so before Gassiev come on strong and eventually KO'd him in the last, Dorticos stood up to some big shots in that last round, nothing wrong with his chin

Havent seen Masternak for a while, he's coming off an avenged win over Kalenga, he pushed Bellew pretty close a few years ago but I'm pretty sure Bellew nearly got him out of there in the last round, Drozd is the only man to stop him, Masternak generally loses when stepping up but the Kalenga win last time is decent form, if not for that i'd give him little chance of winning here

Still I strongly fancy Dorticos to win this one, think it might go to the cards though

[Oiky]

Big dort going to be throwing bombs

[jamamb]

masternak is a decently well schooled boxer and if they had the same strength and power id go for him, but i guess the sense that as it really is masternak might find himself too physically basic to beat dorticos.

[Oiky]

Yea dort won't exactly bully him but he'll have too much for masternak at this point imo

[jamamb]

a lot of talk about eddehs boston card, but imo the miami wbss card is easily the event of the night. dont forget about it

dorticos-masternak
rodriguez-molony
perez-tapia

and some decent prospects on the undercard, including a recent cuban national am champ

[jamamb]

perez outworked a very negative tapia for a ud 97-92 and 96-93 twice (perez had a point off for hitting tapia while tapia was bent over). keith 'malik scott' tapia

dorticos won a pretty good fight vs a super game masterak. 8-4 and a pair of 7-5 cards all for dort. dorts power and long right hand jarred masternak, but dor seemed to slow a bit in the later middle rounds and masternak began to score more with combos

moloney-manny up next

[jamamb]

115-113 moloney
115-113 rodriguez
115-113 rodriguez

rod wins by split decision and will now face inour

really closely contested fight, good skills from both guys. inoue should beat up roddy though

[handsofstone]

I thought Dorticos beat Masternak 117-111 but it there was a lot of close rounds, some messy, it was always competitive and Masternak defo had his moments, got better in the second half, had success with the left hook and is strong as an ox and has that typical rugged European style, in all fairness he gave Dorticos a tougher night than he did Bellew

I did prefer the sharper work of Dorticos though, worked the jab well and came back over the top with some nice right hands, was able to back Masternak at times, not a great fight, no drama but the deserved man got the nod

[handsofstone]

I agreed with the 115-113 cards in favour of Rodriguez, really good fight, some great work from both men, good inside fighting the ref never had to get involoved, no clinching which is always good to see in these types of fights, I liked the look of Rodriguez again but he did allow Moloney to claw it back on the scores, Rodriguez puts his shots together nicely, can lead off and/or counter fluidly, he's got good speed and timing and in the first half especially he looked a class above Moloney,

Moloney to his credit never stopped coming forward and eventually the bodyshots started to slow Rodriguez down, he whips those left hooks into the body rapid, they looked sickening late on, Rodriguez lost his way down the stretch but still done well to tough it out, first time going 12 for Moloney against a quality looking fighter, he'll come again, as for Rodriguez he looks the bollocks for the most part but he was hit tonight, tough night but his early quality deserved it for me

[brilo33]

I agreed with the 115-113 cards in favour of Rodriguez, really good fight, some great work from both men, good inside fighting the ref never had to get involoved, no clinching which is always good to see in these types of fights, I liked the look of Rodriguez again but he did allow Moloney to claw it back on the scores, Rodriguez puts his shots together nicely, can lead off and/or counter fluidly, he's got good speed and timing and in the first half especially he looked a class above Moloney,

Moloney to his credit never stopped coming forward and eventually the bodyshots started to slow Rodriguez down, he whips those left hooks into the body rapid, they looked sickening late on, Rodriguez lost his way down the stretch but still done well to tough it out, first time going 12 for Moloney against a quality looking fighter, he'll come again, as for Rodriguez he looks the bollocks for the most part but he was hit tonight, tough night but his early quality deserved it for me

Moloney was a brave lad , didnt leave anything behind , he needed to double up his jab Rodriguez was a right counter fighter , good fight though moloney was winning on one of the judges card , i mean he was on the front foot, i thought Rodriguez won , if jason had power he would be a world champion

[handsofstone]

Anthony Yigit fighting Ivan Baranchyk for the vacant IBF Super Lightweight title this weekend as well along with Flanagan/Prograis, good match between 2 unbeaten fighters, haven't seen Baranchyk before but he's coming off a stoppage win over Petr Petrov who's usually a tough nut to crack

Yigit a former European champion, I seen his wins over Daws and Hughes and he was good both times, tidy southpaw who puts his shots together nicely, good amateur pedigree as well, looking forward to seeing who brings the other title into the WBSS

[PredatorHayds]

Anthony Yigit fighting Ivan Baranchyk for the vacant IBF Super Lightweight title this weekend as well along with Flanagan/Prograis, good match between 2 unbeaten fighters, haven't seen Baranchyk before but he's coming off a stoppage win over Petr Petrov who's usually a tough nut to crack

Yigit a former European champion, I seen his wins over Daws and Hughes and he was good both times, tidy southpaw who puts his shots together nicely, good amateur pedigree as well, looking forward to seeing who brings the other title into the WBSS

Baranchyk for me. I really rate him.
Relentless and Heavy-Handed.

I’ve got money down on him via KO. Probably late.

[handsofstone]

Baranchyk wins the vacant IBF Super Lightweight title and qualifies for the SFs after Yigit is pulled out in the corner after the 7th round due to a badly swollen eye, it was horrendous, it was swelling in the 1st and I'm surprised it lasted as long, you've got to feel for Yigit going out like that, he mustve known early he was on borrowed time and he gave it a real go but he just never had the strength or power to keep Baranchyk from coming on strong, he did get in the pocket though and try to fight things out with Baranchyk, if he had a bit more power and never had the eye injury I would've had him right in this

I wasn't that impressed with Baranchyk TBH, he's strong and you can hear his shots thud home with a lot more spite than Yigit's but he's easy to hit, he'll be outboxed when he steps up, him and Relikh should blend well, both strong game and aggressive

[Oiky]

Bad do for yigit there

[Stuarty]

That eye was fuckin horrendous man!

[handsofstone]

Last QFs this weekend, both in the Cruiserweight division, former world champion Krzysztof Glowacki squares off against Maksim Vlasov, should be another competitive scrap, ive not seen Glowacki since he was schooled by Usyk when he lost his title, its still the only loss on his slate, Vlasov has only lost twice, both on points to Chilemba and Gilberto Ramirez, he's in good form since losing to Ramirez in 2015, he has KO wins over Sillah, Rakhimov and last time out Durodola

Think Glowack will edge this on points

[handsofstone]

Another former champ Mairis Briedis fights Noel Mikaelian on the card as well, I think Briedis has looked a bit ordinary lately, the fight with Perez was a mess, I thought he was well beaten by Usyk personally and his last fight on the Usyk/Gassiev card was a snoozer, I haven't seen Mikaelian(or Noel Gevor as he's sometimes called) but I do remember him seemingly being fortunate to get a win over Simmons in Germany, his only loss was a split to Wlodarczyk

Going by that i'd have to expect Bredis to have a bit too much skill for him, probably be another 12 round snoozer though

[handsofstone]

Briedis outpoints Mikaelian to move onto the semis, I thought Mikaelian won it 114-112, 2 of the scores were shocking 118-111 and 116-112 were awful, the 114-112 card maybe I can understand just, it was a poor spectacle and not a lot happened in a lot of the rounds, some rounds I gave on single shots because the action was that poor, I just cant see how Briedis won that fight though, he never done anything, occasional jabs then holds when he gets up close, he cant fight on the inside

I watched the fight in foreign and I haven't read anything about the fight since so I'm not sure how other people seen it but I thought Mikaelian was a lot better in the rare punches that were landed, he caught Briedis with the lead right hand a good few times over the 12 rounds and used the ring a lot better, both guys lost points, Mikaelian harshly in the 4th for use of the head, no warnings and then Briedis for holding in the 10th

For 1 judge to give Briedis all but 1 round is a disgrace, I know it was a poor fight with no real action but Mikaelian more than deserved that

[forcefraser]

Not a great fight. I thought Gevor took it by a round, but I would not argue with Braid is one up.

Poor cards though.

[handsofstone]

Glowacki beats Vlasov by a comfortable UD to face Briedis in the semis, I had him winning a wide 118-109 but it was a competitive fight and a bit better than Briedis/Mikaelian but not by much, Glowacki was credited with a KD in the 3rd but a punch never landed and it was more balance that sent Vlasov down, Glowacki did shake Vlasov up pretty bad with a right hook in a clinch in the 1st though, after that Vlasov was never in any real trouble, he made it tough for Glowacki he was always in his face and a bit erratic but all in all Glowacki jabbed and landed the southpaw left hand to the head and some nice lefts to the body too, a bit methodical but it worked for him

All in all though this years Cruiserweight WBSS have been dogsh1t

[Rezzer1967]

The whole things been dogshit this year except the Japanese kid. Last year it was one fight a week, on itv ( box office ), it had good British interest, Usyk and Gassiev, it was great, something to look forward to. This year, it has none of those things, it's old hat, it's on YouTube and the fights, in general, have been terrible. Anything involving Kalle and his brother seems to fail, it's a shame but it's done.

[Oiky]

Yeah it's been a dive this year