Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - November 10, 2018

Who wins?

Poll ended at 10 Nov 2018, 11:14

Usyk - Decision
26
39%
Usyk - K/TKO
32
48%
DRAW
0
No votes
Bellew - K/TKO
7
10%
Bellew - Decision
2
3%
 
Total votes: 67

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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - November 10, 2018

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ya i think your right on that one
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I think Chisora is the only one who can look good with something over his face. It doesn’t work for most people
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - November 10, 2018

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William Hill, betting odds : Usyk vs. Bellew 1,17 29,00 5,50
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Noxy wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 13:17 I think Chisora is the only one who can look good with something over his face. It doesn’t work for most people

That's because Chisora is a criminal, an armed robber.
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Yeah, this kinda mask isn't for Bellew. It makes a gangster image, like Chisora has, while Bellew pretends to be local Rocky, a positive character.
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The picture's getting clearer by the hour. I like Usyk's relaxed confidence.

Bellew will need to land heavy. It will be fascinating to see how he tries to go about it.

I can still recall how so many thought Haye would destroy him before their first fight. Some even said the same for the second fight.

Of course boxing revisionism being what it is, now declares that Haye was a washed up old man all along.

All so clear now, of course. If Bellew wins tomorrow night, you can expect an overnight revision of Usyk's standing not seen since Tyson v Douglas.

Usyk is a good technician no doubt, but he's not Teflon coated. I get the feeling he's made for Bellew.

Something about this fight rings of Benn v McLennan. I still have it near 50/50% with the edge for Usyk, but if it gets nasty it will be Belkew, if someone gets stopped it will be Usyk.

But, as they say, this is boxing. Anything can happen, and that's why we will be watching.
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Thomastearns wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:21 Something about this fight rings of Benn v McLennan. I still have it near 50/50% with the edge for Usyk, but if it gets nasty it will be Belkew, if someone gets stopped it will be Usyk.
I won't say so. McClellan was supposedly a damaged fighter prior to that bout.
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - November 10, 2018

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Usyk will wear Bellew down and take him out between round 8 and 10. I have little doubt.
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Thomastearns wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:21 The picture's getting clearer by the hour. I like Usyk's relaxed confidence.

Bellew will need to land heavy. It will be fascinating to see how he tries to go about it.

I can still recall how so many thought Haye would destroy him before their first fight. Some even said the same for the second fight.

Of course boxing revisionism being what it is, now declares that Haye was a washed up old man all along.

All so clear now, of course. If Bellew wins tomorrow night, you can expect an overnight revision of Usyk's standing not seen since Tyson v Douglas.

Usyk is a good technician no doubt, but he's not Teflon coated. I get the feeling he's made for Bellew.

Something about this fight rings of Benn v McLennan. I still have it near 50/50% with the edge for Usyk, but if it gets nasty it will be Belkew, if someone gets stopped it will be Usyk.

But, as they say, this is boxing. Anything can happen, and that's why we will be watching.
if you think usyks made for bellew, and are getting a benn vs mccllan feeling, and think that bellew would be the clear favourite at hw, why isnt your 'edge' for bellew?
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - November 10, 2018

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oogiebe wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:38 Usyk will wear Bellew down and take him out between round 8 and 10. I have little doubt.
i predict exactly the same :TU: Usyk is a fantastic fighter, and his punch is not that weak as some think, it's just that his style is still very amateurish, he's relying more on accuracy and volume than power
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - November 10, 2018

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dagilechia wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:49
oogiebe wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:38 Usyk will wear Bellew down and take him out between round 8 and 10. I have little doubt.
i predict exactly the same :TU: Usyk is a fantastic fighter, and his punch is not that weak as some think, it's just that his style is still very amateurish, he's relying more on accuracy and volume than power
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The Usyk-Bellew bout will headline a Matchroom Boxing card Saturday on DAZN stream in the United States (1 p.m. ET/10 a.m. PT).

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Running Order

First fight starts at 1:10pm ET/10:10am PT

Vacant WBA Intercontinental Cruiserweight Championship
Sam Hyde vs. Richard Riakporhe

Followed by

10 Round Heavyweight Contest
Dave Allen vs. Ariel Esteban Bracamonte

Followed by

10 Round Welterweight Contest
Josh Kelly vs. Walter Fabian Castillo

Followed by

10 Round Lightweight Contest
Ricky Burns vs. Scotty Cardle

Followed by

Final Eliminator for WBA World Lightweight Title
Anthony Crolla vs. Daud Yordan

Followed by

Undisputed WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF & Ring Magazine World Cruiserweight Titles
Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew

Float

6 Round Middleweight Contest
Dmytro Mytrofanov vs. Gino Kanters

Float

4 Round Heavyweight Contest
Alexandros Kartozia vs. Daniel Robles
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:KO:
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 10:55 The Usyk-Bellew bout will headline a Matchroom Boxing card Saturday on DAZN stream in the United States (1 p.m. ET/10 a.m. PT).

_______________
Running Order

First fight starts at 1:10pm ET/10:10am PT

Vacant WBA Intercontinental Cruiserweight Championship
Sam Hyde vs. Richard Riakporhe

Followed by

10 Round Heavyweight Contest
Dave Allen vs. Ariel Esteban Bracamonte

Followed by

10 Round Welterweight Contest
Josh Kelly vs. Walter Fabian Castillo

Followed by

10 Round Lightweight Contest
Ricky Burns vs. Scotty Cardle

Followed by

Final Eliminator for WBA World Lightweight Title
Anthony Crolla vs. Daud Yordan

Followed by

Undisputed WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF & Ring Magazine World Cruiserweight Titles
Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew

Float

6 Round Middleweight Contest
Dmytro Mytrofanov vs. Gino Kanters

Float

4 Round Heavyweight Contest
Alexandros Kartozia vs. Daniel Robles
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That's one shitty undercard for a PPV
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In most cases for a PPV, he has a world title on the undercard. But most his fighters have recently had World title shots in the US.

Causing his UK cards to be thinned out.
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Stats & Stakes

Oleksandr Usyk
Age: 31
Title: WBO cruiserweight (2016-present, 5 defenses); WBC cruiserweight (2017-present, 1 defense); IBF cruiserweight (2018-present, 1st attempted defense); WBA ‘super’ cruiserweight (2018-Present, 1stattempted defense); Lineal/TBRB/Ring cruiserweight (2018-present, 1stattempted defense)
Previous Titles: None
Height: 6’3
Weight: 198 ¼ lbs.
Stance: Southpaw
Hails from: Kiev, Ukraine
Record: 15-0, 11 KO
Record in Major Title Fights: 6-0, 2 KO
Last Five Opponents: 118-6-1 (.948)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Krzysztof Glowacki UD12; Marco Huck TKO10; Mairis Briedis MD12; Murat Gassiev UD12

vs.

Tony Bellew
Age: 35
Title: None
Previous Titles: WBC cruiserweight (2016-17, 1 defense)
Height: 6’3
Weight: 199 ¼ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom
Record: 30-2-1, 20 KO, 1 KOBY
Press Rankings: #2 (Boxing Monthly), #3 (BoxRec)
Record in Major Title Fights: 2-2, 2 KO, 1 KOBY
Last Five Opponents: 143-11-1 (.929)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Nathan Cleverly L12, SD12; Adonis Stevenson TKO by 6; David Haye TKO11, TKO5
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - November 10, 2018

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oogiebe wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:38 Usyk will wear Bellew down and take him out between round 8 and 10. I have little doubt.
I've always stuck with an 9th round KO by Usyk.

At heavyweight I would probably go with Usyk by decision.

But I feel strongly that the 13 lb. or so weight loss will leave Bellew ineffectual. Drained.

His usually heavy shots will carry little impact, so even if he lands them, Usyk will be unbothered.

Usyk should be pitching a shutout or near one when he finally batters a weak Bellew to the canvas.

Like you, I have little doubt. I consider it a sure thing.

Amazing that so many polls I see on boxing sites have Bellew the predicted winner by around 60%

Patriotic support should only go so far. Reality has to set in. Usyk is in another league than Bellew.
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jamamb wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:38
Thomastearns wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:21 The picture's getting clearer by the hour. I like Usyk's relaxed confidence.

Bellew will need to land heavy. It will be fascinating to see how he tries to go about it.

I can still recall how so many thought Haye would destroy him before their first fight. Some even said the same for the second fight.

Of course boxing revisionism being what it is, now declares that Haye was a washed up old man all along.

All so clear now, of course. If Bellew wins tomorrow night, you can expect an overnight revision of Usyk's standing not seen since Tyson v Douglas.

Usyk is a good technician no doubt, but he's not Teflon coated. I get the feeling he's made for Bellew.

Something about this fight rings of Benn v McLennan. I still have it near 50/50% with the edge for Usyk, but if it gets nasty it will be Belkew, if someone gets stopped it will be Usyk.

But, as they say, this is boxing. Anything can happen, and that's why we will be watching.
if you think usyks made for bellew, and are getting a benn vs mccllan feeling, and think that bellew would be the clear favourite at hw, why isnt your 'edge' for bellew?
You've answered your own question.

I'm far from convinced that the 'Lomachenko style' will be so effective against hard hitting HWs.

At CW it's almost a 50/50 fight. Soon find out what kind of drama Bellew is starring in tonight.
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If you can't watch, you can catch all the highlights of the card here:
http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 9&start=50


ENJOY!! :TU:
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Thomastearns wrote: 10 Nov 2018, 16:10
jamamb wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:38
Thomastearns wrote: 09 Nov 2018, 14:21 The picture's getting clearer by the hour. I like Usyk's relaxed confidence.

Bellew will need to land heavy. It will be fascinating to see how he tries to go about it.

I can still recall how so many thought Haye would destroy him before their first fight. Some even said the same for the second fight.

Of course boxing revisionism being what it is, now declares that Haye was a washed up old man all along.

All so clear now, of course. If Bellew wins tomorrow night, you can expect an overnight revision of Usyk's standing not seen since Tyson v Douglas.

Usyk is a good technician no doubt, but he's not Teflon coated. I get the feeling he's made for Bellew.

Something about this fight rings of Benn v McLennan. I still have it near 50/50% with the edge for Usyk, but if it gets nasty it will be Belkew, if someone gets stopped it will be Usyk.

But, as they say, this is boxing. Anything can happen, and that's why we will be watching.
if you think usyks made for bellew, and are getting a benn vs mccllan feeling, and think that bellew would be the clear favourite at hw, why isnt your 'edge' for bellew?
You've answered your own question.

I'm far from convinced that the 'Lomachenko style' will be so effective against hard hitting HWs.

At CW it's almost a 50/50 fight. Soon find out what kind of drama Bellew is starring in tonight.
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