Usky next move??

[KiwiRider]

Anyway, I think Usyk should face three solid HWs next year (at least the top 15) and try to become the champion in the first part of 2020 (against Joshua ? Wilder ? Fury ?)....

Let us say : Whyte, Parker, H. Fury.......

I think Whyte will want to hang on to his mandatory and not risk it. Same with Brazeale. Parker might want too much money. Huggie is under Fwank, too hard basket.
I don't think tall fighters are a problem for Usyk, he boxed rings around Joyce and has improved a lot since then anyway

[klitoris]

Personally would love to see Usyk vs. Miller in Brooklyn. That would be an awesome event since Miller has a fan base in Brooklyn and there is huge Ukrainian fanbase in New York and the whole east coast.

[punchoutsb]

Someone like Charles Martin would be a great first HW fight for Usyk. An easy win over a former "champion".

[Rob3_142]

I thinking banding the likes of Parker, Whyte or Miller is somewhat fanciful. I mean from a fantasy perspective, hell yes, but from a reality perspective, I'd struggle to look much further than Chisora. Usyk is what, 31 years old now? Hanging round in the already conquered cruiserweight division is probably a waste of time, when he'd need 1-2 years in the heavyweight division to thoroughly establish himself.

I expect him to be fed some Matchroom fodder (or some close associates) such as Dave Allen, Dave Price, Charles Martin, Carlos Takam. at least for his first, maybe second fights. Reality is, most guys either highly ranked in the ABC rankings or someone sitting pretty in the top 15 would consider Usyk a high risk fight for limited return. At a stretch, I would perhaps consider Parker bold enough to take the risk, because he seems to have that mentality (as he did vs. Whyte) but I think it would be an ill advised risk.

[jujigatame]

Just give me Joshua/Usyk. It seems like Joshua/Wilder is never going to happen at this rate so let's just make the biggest fight we can.

Before this weekend I'd have said Briedis deserves a rematch, but he looked listless and mediocre against Mikaelian so I think I'll pass on that rematch now.

[jamamb]

I thinking banding the likes of Parker, Whyte or Miller is somewhat fanciful. I mean from a fantasy perspective, hell yes, but from a reality perspective, I'd struggle to look much further than Chisora. Usyk is what, 31 years old now? Hanging round in the already conquered cruiserweight division is probably a waste of time, when he'd need 1-2 years in the heavyweight division to thoroughly establish himself.

I expect him to be fed some Matchroom fodder (or some close associates) such as Dave Allen, Dave Price, Charles Martin, Carlos Takam. at least for his first, maybe second fights. Reality is, most guys either highly ranked in the ABC rankings or someone sitting pretty in the top 15 would consider Usyk a high risk fight for limited return. At a stretch, I would perhaps consider Parker bold enough to take the risk, because he seems to have that mentality (as he did vs. Whyte) but I think it would be an ill advised risk.

dont really understand this tbh re: parker

if someone like takam is his first fight, parker is hardly some massive big step up for his second. i think you seriously overrate parker if you think otherwise. perhaps in joes top win, he maybe won by a point or two (you had a draw, no?) over the same takam you think we might see usyk debut at hw against. i also thought he lost to andy ruiz, he beat hughie much less clear then pulev did, couldnt get cojanu out of there, etc

i would defo favor usyk over joe

[actjac]

I would have him fight Trevor Bryan who is the WBA's #1 rated contender and "interim champion". . . .With a win he becomes a mandatory for Anthony Joshua.

[Rob3_142]

I thinking banding the likes of Parker, Whyte or Miller is somewhat fanciful. I mean from a fantasy perspective, hell yes, but from a reality perspective, I'd struggle to look much further than Chisora. Usyk is what, 31 years old now? Hanging round in the already conquered cruiserweight division is probably a waste of time, when he'd need 1-2 years in the heavyweight division to thoroughly establish himself.

I expect him to be fed some Matchroom fodder (or some close associates) such as Dave Allen, Dave Price, Charles Martin, Carlos Takam. at least for his first, maybe second fights. Reality is, most guys either highly ranked in the ABC rankings or someone sitting pretty in the top 15 would consider Usyk a high risk fight for limited return. At a stretch, I would perhaps consider Parker bold enough to take the risk, because he seems to have that mentality (as he did vs. Whyte) but I think it would be an ill advised risk.

dont really understand this tbh re: parker

if someone like takam is his first fight, parker is hardly some massive big step up for his second. i think you seriously overrate parker if you think otherwise. perhaps in joes top win, he maybe won by a point or two (you had a draw, no?) over the same takam you think we might see usyk debut at hw against. i also thought he lost to andy ruiz, he beat hughie much less clear then pulev did, couldnt get cojanu out of there, etc

i would defo favor usyk over joe

I agree. I think Usyk would beat Parker. I was talking about the risk for Parker. Does Parker really want to be mixing with the likes of Usyk? What's in it for him? He loses and he gets cut off from the top 15 completely.

[jamamb]

ah i see, i get you there

[candyslim]

id like to see him eff millers day. zero head movment vs volume puncher...

I'd love to see Usyk fight Miller but I can't help thinking that Miller is all wrong for Usyk. They are both come forward guys who are volume rather than power punchers and can generally outlast their opponent. Usyk has the skills but he'll be giving away 70lbs in weight, maybe more.

Of course that won't be a fight for the UK. I reckon Chisora might be next up, which is a logical toe-in-the-water step. I don't think a fight with Dave Allen would be much of an indicator as to Usyk's likely impact at heavyweight.

[jamamb]

usyk is best on the backfoot, the miller style actually suits him, its a question of how well he deals with the strength

[Heretic]

Miller would be big risk for Usyk. The guy is huge. I think that Chisora will be likely opponent sometime in the future.

Parker type of opponents will come when he reaches the fight for mandatory spots. Aj might fight him as voluntary too if it seems like it would sell enough tickets.

First HW opponent will likely be someone like Hammer, Price, Helenius, Szpilka or Washington. Beatable guys with known names a bit of ranking and the willingness to take risky fight for moderate payday.

[jamamb]

ya thats probably the more realistic guys for usyk first, helenius has been on matchroom cards before and did just get an okay win to position him on (plus is slow and fitted to usyk), he could be a good bet

[jujigatame]

I really don't see why he should fight some mediocre C-list HW before fighting Joshua. The HW division has zero depth right now. Just let him fight the champ, like the UFC did with Cormier.

[punchoutsb]

I really don't see why he should fight some mediocre C-list HW before fighting Joshua. The HW division has zero depth right now. Just let him fight the champ, like the UFC did with Cormier.

While I suggested Martin, I do agree with this. Heavyweight sucks; get him and AJ together now. They’re all C level outside the big three.

[Enlightened-One]

AJ will be obliged to perform mandatory defences of his IBF, WBA and WBO titles (against the likes of Jarrell ‘Big Baby’ Miller, Dillian Whyte and Kubrat Pulev). The only way that Joshua will be able to postpone these sort of fights is if he engages in a title unification bout against Deontay Wilder.

Oleksandr Usyk isn’t on AJ’s radar at the moment and we shouldn’t expect him to be until the second half of 2020 (at the earliest).

Anthony Joshua isn’t going to consider vacating his world titles in order to face Usyk.

[jamamb]

ya as much as id like to see usyk vs top hws i just dont think its happening straight away

[Onetimeonly]

ya as much as id like to see usyk vs top hws i just dont think its happening straight away

How come? I don't see why someone so willing to fight anyone would be satisfied with soft touches.

[jamamb]

just see a 'getting used to the weight' fight to build usy a bit first . no scrubs mind you

[ValMar]

Has he (as an undisputed champion at CW) automaticaly possibility to become mandatory if he moves up at HW ?
This is a serious question, I really don't know a lot about this issue.

[Onetimeonly]

I would have him fight Trevor Bryan who is the WBA's #1 rated contender and "interim champion". . . .With a win he becomes a mandatory for Anthony Joshua.

He'll be the wbo mandatory no matter whom he fights.

[Onetimeonly]

Has he (as an undisputed champion at CW) automaticaly possibility to become mandatory if he moves up at HW ?
This is a serious question, I really don't know a lot about this issue.

Yes

[ValMar]

Has he (as an undisputed champion at CW) automaticaly possibility to become mandatory if he moves up at HW ?
This is a serious question, I really don't know a lot about this issue.

Yes

Thanks !

[Enlightened-One]

Has he (as an undisputed champion at CW) automaticaly possibility to become mandatory if he moves up at HW ?
This is a serious question, I really don't know a lot about this issue.

I don’t see how the IBF, WBO & WBA can strip fighters of their mandatory status, which guarantees multi-million dollar pay cheques, without being sued.

Let’s pretend that you’re Kubrat Pulev and you’ve already missed out on a shot against AJ due to injury, had to engage in another final eliminator to regain your mandatory challenger status, only to end up seeing your multi-million dollar payday to be stolen from a fighter like Oleksandr Usyk who has never once competed as a heavyweight?

You’d be pretty angry if you were the Bulgarian and probably would sue the IBF for every penny they had!

Matchroom could theoretically pay step-aside money to one of AJ’s mandatories, but the cost would be too unrealistically high to explore this option.

[Onetimeonly]

The wbo will do that with any champ that moves up.