Prime Kubrat Pulev would outbox and out-jab any heavyweight today

[candyslim]

And in other universes, calling someone a mummy is also an insult. You don't get to pick and choose what an insult is and what isn't, based on your subjective criteria.

cs: Not particularly complementary I'll grant you, but hardly comparable with questioning a man's masculinity, never mind an international class professional boxer.

Pulev was using his jab to force Fury wherever he wanted. Fury has NEVER faced anybody with a jab, that is as good as Pulev's. FACTS! Have you ever considered the possibility that Pulev PREVENTED Fury from occupying the center of the ring, due to his superior ring generalship?

cs: I know what I saw.

That power jab of Pulev, made Fury tentative. Just like the punching power of a boxer, can force an opponent to be more hesitant in taking risks. Pulev cut the ring off and cut off escape routes, preventing Pulev from using his typical lateral movement. Whilst that jab was always occupying Fury, preventing him from getting anything off.

cs: I think we shall have to agree to disagree.

Joshua landed plenty of flush uppercuts on Parker, and couldn't drop him. I don't buy this myth that Joshua wasn't trying to KO Parker. I don't think he was able to, due to Parker's movement, defense, elusiveness and durability (which aren't proven to be better than Pulev's).

cs: They were both very respectful of each other's power and I stand by what I said about Joshua not being botherered about winning inside the distance, just winning.

Dillian Whyte dropped Parker with a left hook? OKAY! But Chisora knocked out Takam fair and square whilst Joshua couldn't. I think we now have enough evidence that suggests Joshua's power has been exposed to be overrated and not as good as many of his fans seemed to initially think.

cs: Takam was very cagey against Joshua. Against Chisora he threw caution to the wind as he tried to blitz Derreck into submission. I'm not dissing Del's power in any way, but at the time of the knock-out Takam was seriously fukced and vulnerable to a finishing shot.

I' really don't think Joshua is really as skilled as you think he is. Or as powerful! Whyte dropping Parker, doesn't prove Joshua would've done the same if he somehow tried harder.

cs: No it doesn't and that is now the 4th time I have admitted the point. This rather confirms my suspicion that you don't really consider what the other guy says, you just keep repeating the same argument until you bludgeon them into submission like Miller.

I also saw Dereck Chisora dropping and stopping Carlos Takam with fewer punches than AJ. Whilst AJ, despite landing far more punches, didn't come close to conclusively knocking out Takam.

cs: Discussed in my answer above (the one above)

So Hughie Fury, supposedly 'scrambling' Pulev's senses, doesn't prove anything to me.

cs: Of course not. You've made up your mind irrespective of evidence to the contrary.

At least if Fury were to KO, or even drop Pulev, then it may have proved something.

cs: He may very well have done so if the ref hadn't jumped in to prevent it by giving Pulev another 10 seconds or so of recovery time. Fury didn't help himself by failing to follow up once the ref had done obsructing him.

Pulev took Wladimir Klitschko's right hands without dropping (who I believe you think hits a lot harder than Hughie Fury). It was Wlad's left hooks that he couldn't handle. So Pulev has never shown a weakness to right hands. And Joshua lacks Wladimir Klitschko's left hooks.

cs: Joshua has a very good left hook. Pulev might be more adept at evading a right hand but he'll go the same way if caught flush by a right and Joshua will catch him flush, just wait.

Could Joshua hurt / stun Pulev? Sure! Do I think Joshua is likely to KO Pulev before he reaches age 39? Absolutely not! There's a huge difference between merely hurting somebody and KO'ing them.

cs: I'm not sure I understand the significance of 39. I accept a fighter at that age can fall apart overnight but this can happen at 35 or 45. Obviously you aren't suggesting Joshua is letting Pulev grow old. It wasn't his fault Pulev pulled out injured. Parker is the only Joshua opponent who heard the last bell and AJ's opponents are of far higher quality than Wilder's whose very similar achievement has people creaming themselves about his power.

Joshua has stopped only one top 'quality' prime opponent that wasn't old or washed up. That was Dillian Whyte! He failed to KO Joseph Parker (his only other prime top opponent). Both Wladimir Klitschko and Alexander Poveetkin were shot to pieces around age 40. And Joshua failed to legitimately stop Takam.

cs: Already discussed above and in previous exchanges,

Pulev may very well be shot too, by the time he faces Joshua. However, he is still 37 and at least before the end of 2019 , I would predict he would still have it in him.

cs: I'm sure that when Joshua destroys him you will insist he would have won had the fight occurred earlier.

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[candyslim]

Parker BARELY beat Hughie Fury. Whilst Pulev dominated Fury from start to finish, and won by a much wider margin.

Face it! You're the one who stated Pulev avoided Whyte. When it's the other way round. Since Whyte was the one who refused to travel to Bulgaria. I don't care about money excuses. When team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight in Bulgaria, Whyte avoided and ducked. These are FACTS!

Whyte wasn't interested in going to Bulgaria because it didn't make sense.
The remuneration package was pitiful. Who wouldn't prefer an extremely lucrative fight with Parker on PPV?
Unlike Miller who also turned the fight down, Whyte did not need any governing body to enforce a shot at Joshua. Both Dillian and AJ want to fight each other and can do so at any time that is mutually convenient.
Dillian Whyte is a warrior and while he may decide not to take a fight because it doesn't make sense in terms of finance or career advancement, he is not afraid of any boxer on the planet.

When you suggest that Whyte is a man that ducks people you make yourself look like a total moron. If you cannot recognize a distinctiion between his behaviour and that of say Wilder or Miller, then I feel sorry for you.

[jamamb]

pulev may be ugly to watch and is hardly special but he did beat chisora far better then whyte did and hughie better then parker did, you dont need to keep coming up with excuses for that and kinda hinting that the guys just sort of let him beat them. the jab clearly bothered each of them a lot and he had a superior gas tank to both.

aj would splatter him like wlad did though , and wouldve already done it if pulev hadnt withdrawn. wilder might actually knock his head off

[danconnollyeire]

Pulev's jab is very good indeed. And he really can outjab a lot of competitors today. His jab didn't help him against Wlad though. It didn't help at all. It won't either against Joshua and Wilder, where Pulev will be very likely to look good early, until he gets caught and KOed. He won't handle Tyson Fury too. I believe, nobody can outbox The Gypsy King today.

His jab didn't help him against Wladimir Klitschko because Wladimir Klitschko has a very special / unique left hook that none of the other top heavyweights have today. Not Anthony Joshua, not Deontay Wilder and not Tyson Fury. So the idea that his jab won't work against other guys, only because it didn't work against Wladimir Klitschko, is faulty logic. Since those other boxers aren't Wladimir Klitschko and don't have the quality in their left hook that Wlad has.

Deontay Wilder couldn't even drop Johann Duhaupas with flush, loaded up punches for 11 rounds. When a total scrub and a far inferior boxer in Duhaupas can take Wilder's punches without getting dropped, much less KO'ed, then there is no reason why a far superior Pulev also couldn't not only not get knocked out, but go a step further and actually beat Wilder on points (assuming no robberies).

Anthony Joshua failed to even drop Joseph Parker. Let that sink in for a second! The same Parker who was dropped by Dillian Whyte of all people. Kubrat Pulev is superior to Joseph Parker in terms of boxing skills and is at least as durable, if not more durable.

Euhm no, Whyte would smack the hell out of Pulev, it wouldn't even be competative.

Plus Whyte initially knocked down Parker with a headbutt lol

[danconnollyeire]

His jab didn't help him against Wladimir Klitschko because Wladimir Klitschko has a very special / unique left hook that none of the other top heavyweights have today. Not Anthony Joshua, not Deontay Wilder and not Tyson Fury. So the idea that his jab won't work against other guys, only because it didn't work against Wladimir Klitschko, is faulty logic. Since those other boxers aren't Wladimir Klitschko and don't have the quality in their left hook that Wlad has.

Deontay Wilder couldn't even drop Johann Duhaupas with flush, loaded up punches for 11 rounds. When a total scrub and a far inferior boxer in Duhaupas can take Wilder's punches without getting dropped, much less KO'ed, then there is no reason why a far superior Pulev also couldn't not only not get knocked out, but go a step further and actually beat Wilder on points (assuming no robberies).

Anthony Joshua failed to even drop Joseph Parker. Let that sink in for a second! The same Parker who was dropped by Dillian Whyte of all people. Kubrat Pulev is superior to Joseph Parker in terms of boxing skills and is at least as durable, if not more durable.

Yeah, Klitschko was special. Joshua and Wilder are special too. Of course, that doesn't mean, that they are special in the same way. They have their own tools, which can be effectively used against Pulev's weaknesses, so Pulev is more likely to have early success with his jab, until he gets caught. Pulev himself is special only with the jab, so he won't be able to hide his weaknesses for long.

Pulev hasn't shown a weakness to Joshua's and Wilder's strengths. Joshua failed to even drop Joseph Parker, never mind being able to KO him. Why is it such a foregone conclusion he KO's Pulev, who has PROVEN to be superior to Parker?

Wilder failed to even drop Johann Duhaupas after landing flush punches for 11 rounds. Why it such a foregone conclusion that he also KO's Pulev and that somehow Pulev will be unable to last the distance for a win?

Did Pulev take your virginity or something? Has he been grooming you for years? The posts are beyond ridiculous, Pulev is bang average, can't even beat Hughie Fury convincingly

[jamamb]

i think pulevs level might be slightly better then joe parker. decent contender but loses aj, wilder , fury, ortiz, piovetkin, miller, and prob whyte now. better then likes of parker, chisora, kownacki, breazeale, takam etc

[candyslim]

pulev may be ugly to watch and is hardly special but he did beat chisora far better then whyte did and hughie better then parker did, you dont need to keep coming up with excuses for that and kinda hinting that the guys just sort of let him beat them. the jab clearly bothered each of them a lot and he had a superior gas tank to both.

aj would splatter him like wlad did though , and wouldve already done it if pulev hadnt withdrawn. wilder might actually knock his head off

I have said many times that Pulev has been a very good fighter and despite his age and inactivity, has proved to me that he remains a good fighter. He boxes well, has a formidable jab, and has surprised me with his body punching ability (not on this occasion though).

Chisora will always give Whyte problems because although his boxing has improved, Whyte is still fundamentally a guy who likes to rumble. Chisora thrives against anyone who will stand and trade with him, he struggles with those who are not so obliging such as Pulev. I would pick Whyte to stop Pulev, certainly given how impressive Dillian's left hook looked against his Anzac opponents, and even more so given how Pulev was put in serious trouble by Fury's right hand in the 8th.

I don't believe I've come up with excuses, but If that's the impression I gave that wasn't my intention. Having said that did you not have higher expectations of Fury in that fight? What is your take on his consistent retreat into his corner bolt-hole? Did he jump or was he pushed?

[candyslim]

Parker did not demolish Fury. If you look at his face while awaiting the judges' verdict it's clear he thought his title had gone.

I'm glad he got the decision because he was the one trying to force the fight, but Fury made him look like he was chasing shadows and certainly Fury landed more punches.

Admittedly Fury's punches were lacking power but he was landing many more of them. It gave the judges the excuse to score for the home fighter if that was their intention, and I'm gratified that they spared boxing another minor injustice.

[Ricky]

Pulev is generally underrated. I was surprised to see so many picks for Hughie Fury to beat him.

[candyslim]

Don't forget before the Fury fight Pulev had not boxed in over a year and at 37 getting on for 38 might have been a shadow of his former self. With hindsight it is clear he shows little or no sign of deterioration although it wasn't much of an examination.

Fury was a great disappointment. His performance against Parker convinced me he had the speed and mobility to befuddle a veteran like Pulev and the stamina to keep doing it.

Clearly the cut would have had a psychological impact on Fury but I don't know if that can explain his hitherto unsuspected (by me) lack of energy. Maybe I'm doing Pulev an injustice but the pressure applied was relentless but not intense and it seemed to me Fury's continual retreat to his favourite corner was deliberate rather than enforced by KP.

I got the prediction right technically because I thought Pulev would get an undeserved decision. The decision was fully deserved so I didn't call it correctly, but I do believe my prediction was based on solid analysis. IfI take a 50/50 bet that the next playing card out of the shuffled pack won't be a picture card, and it turns out to be the jack of clubs does that make me the fool or the guy who bet me?

[jamamb]

i dont think hughie was just having a laugh and choosing to go to the corner for the hell of it. the jab was clearly bothering him and his body language was that of a shaky fighter feeling a bit of duress. hughie himself if very jab heavy, so being second best in that department, and getting a bad cut in losing that battle, was a big deal. unlike the parker fight, where joe was basically hitting gloves or air or only just glancing, pulev was landing regularly , even if not with big power shots

pulev has always had a good tank too, thats been his biggest strength along with the jab. i rate him as a pretty good lower top 10 fighter and he has been for years. hes too chinny and upright and not a good enough puncher to beat the top 6-7 guys i think, but hell beat guys like hughie all day even at this age

[candyslim]

Obviously not having a laugh, no but he was doing it from the start if I recall correctly i.e. not an understandable reaction to the cut. I believe if he had persisted in occupying centre ring, ceding possession to Pulev's pressure as necessary but then circling him and using his mobility, Pulev's jab would have been far less influential than it was. By adopting the low energy option, Fury was about as effective as a knight on the corner square of the chessboard.

[Luis Fernando12]

What would you do if Parker offers you 2 or 3 times as much money and made a much more competative fight?
Parker already won against Hughie as well btw.

Parker BARELY beat Hughie Fury. Whilst Pulev dominated Fury from start to finish, and won by a much wider margin.

Face it! You're the one who stated Pulev avoided Whyte. When it's the other way round. Since Whyte was the one who refused to travel to Bulgaria. I don't care about money excuses. When team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight in Bulgaria, Whyte avoided and ducked. These are FACTS!

Parker absolutely demolished Fury, it wasn't even competative, you clearly haven't even seen the fight and only listened to the comments afterwards. Despite home advantage for Fury against Parker and despite home advantage of Pulev against Fury. Those are the facts, please at least watch the fight before posting even more dumb answers. Whyte ain't gonna fight for a couple of 100k dollars any more. Whyte is a PPV fighter.

Pulev 'destroyed' Fury even more. Pulev inflicted more damage on Fury than Parker did and also won by a wider margin in the scorecard.

PPV fighter my ass. Whyte arguably lost against Chisora and was on the verge of getting stopped in the 12th round. Whyte is utter garbage! Whilst Pulev beat Chisora with very little effort and in dominant fashion.

[Luis Fernando12]

Yeah, Klitschko was special. Joshua and Wilder are special too. Of course, that doesn't mean, that they are special in the same way. They have their own tools, which can be effectively used against Pulev's weaknesses, so Pulev is more likely to have early success with his jab, until he gets caught. Pulev himself is special only with the jab, so he won't be able to hide his weaknesses for long.

Pulev hasn't shown a weakness to Joshua's and Wilder's strengths. Joshua failed to even drop Joseph Parker, never mind being able to KO him. Why is it such a foregone conclusion he KO's Pulev, who has PROVEN to be superior to Parker?

Wilder failed to even drop Johann Duhaupas after landing flush punches for 11 rounds. Why it such a foregone conclusion that he also KO's Pulev and that somehow Pulev will be unable to last the distance for a win?

Did Pulev take your virginity or something? Has he been grooming you for years? The posts are beyond ridiculous, Pulev is bang average, can't even beat Hughie Fury convincingly

Has Joshua done the same to you? Pulev beat Fury more convincingly than anybody else, and that's what matters.

Joshua couldn't even beat Parker convincingly. Go figure! Andy Ruiz Jr had already beaten Parker in Parker's backyard, only to get robbed before overrated Joshua managed to get his hands on Parker afterwards.

Anthony Joshua is the very definition of 'average' when it comes to boxing skills.

[Luis Fernando12]

Parker BARELY beat Hughie Fury. Whilst Pulev dominated Fury from start to finish, and won by a much wider margin.

Face it! You're the one who stated Pulev avoided Whyte. When it's the other way round. Since Whyte was the one who refused to travel to Bulgaria. I don't care about money excuses. When team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight in Bulgaria, Whyte avoided and ducked. These are FACTS!

Whyte wasn't interested in going to Bulgaria because it didn't make sense.
The remuneration package was pitiful. Who wouldn't prefer an extremely lucrative fight with Parker on PPV?
Unlike Miller who also turned the fight down, Whyte did not need any governing body to enforce a shot at Joshua. Both Dillian and AJ want to fight each other and can do so at any time that is mutually convenient.
Dillian Whyte is a warrior and while he may decide not to take a fight because it doesn't make sense in terms of finance or career advancement, he is not afraid of any boxer on the planet.

When you suggest that Whyte is a man that ducks people you make yourself look like a total moron. If you cannot recognize a distinctiion between his behaviour and that of say Wilder or Miller, then I feel sorry for you.

None of your excuses, CHANGES THE FACT THAT Whyte avoided a fight against Pulev, after team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight to take place in Bulgaria.

You could perhaps state that Whyte AVOIDED / DUCKED Pulev for better financial reasons or for better "career advancement" reasons. However, the point remains, that Whyte did indeed avoid Pulev after team Pulev won the purse bid, irrespective of whatever excuse or reason you use to justify the avoidance.

[candyslim]

Parker BARELY beat Hughie Fury. Whilst Pulev dominated Fury from start to finish, and won by a much wider margin.

Face it! You're the one who stated Pulev avoided Whyte. When it's the other way round. Since Whyte was the one who refused to travel to Bulgaria. I don't care about money excuses. When team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight in Bulgaria, Whyte avoided and ducked. These are FACTS!

Whyte wasn't interested in going to Bulgaria because it didn't make sense.
The remuneration package was pitiful. Who wouldn't prefer an extremely lucrative fight with Parker on PPV?
Unlike Miller who also turned the fight down, Whyte did not need any governing body to enforce a shot at Joshua. Both Dillian and AJ want to fight each other and can do so at any time that is mutually convenient.
Dillian Whyte is a warrior and while he may decide not to take a fight because it doesn't make sense in terms of finance or career advancement, he is not afraid of any boxer on the planet.

When you suggest that Whyte is a man that ducks people you make yourself look like a total moron. If you cannot recognize a distinctiion between his behaviour and that of say Wilder or Miller, then I feel sorry for you.

None of your excuses, CHANGES THE FACT THAT Whyte avoided a fight against Pulev, after team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight to take place in Bulgaria.

You could perhaps state that Whyte AVOIDED / DUCKED Pulev for better financial reasons or for better "career advancement" reasons. However, the point remains, that Whyte did indeed avoid Pulev after team Pulev won the purse bid, irrespective of whatever excuse or reason you use to justify the avoidance.

I'm sorry but you really are a fukcing idiot, life is too short to waste any more time arguing with you. If I offer Whyte 25 quid to fight me do I get to claim he ducked me when he treats my offer with the contempt it deserves?

Don't answer I'm not interested. Other people have called you a troll and what is particularly sad is that I don't believe you are one.

[Luis Fernando12]

Whyte wasn't interested in going to Bulgaria because it didn't make sense.
The remuneration package was pitiful. Who wouldn't prefer an extremely lucrative fight with Parker on PPV?
Unlike Miller who also turned the fight down, Whyte did not need any governing body to enforce a shot at Joshua. Both Dillian and AJ want to fight each other and can do so at any time that is mutually convenient.
Dillian Whyte is a warrior and while he may decide not to take a fight because it doesn't make sense in terms of finance or career advancement, he is not afraid of any boxer on the planet.

When you suggest that Whyte is a man that ducks people you make yourself look like a total moron. If you cannot recognize a distinctiion between his behaviour and that of say Wilder or Miller, then I feel sorry for you.

None of your excuses, CHANGES THE FACT THAT Whyte avoided a fight against Pulev, after team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight to take place in Bulgaria.

You could perhaps state that Whyte AVOIDED / DUCKED Pulev for better financial reasons or for better "career advancement" reasons. However, the point remains, that Whyte did indeed avoid Pulev after team Pulev won the purse bid, irrespective of whatever excuse or reason you use to justify the avoidance.

I'm sorry but you really are a fukcing idiot, life is too short to waste any more time arguing with you. If I offer Whyte 25 quid to fight me do I get to claim he ducked me when he treats my offer with the contempt it deserves?

Don't answer I'm not interested. Other people have called you a troll and what is particularly sad is that I don't believe you are one.

You're personal insults, remarks, profanity and Ad Hominem attacks, won't change the fact that Dillian Whyte avoided / ducked Kubrat Pulev, AFTER his team lost the purse bid and AFTER the fight was forced to take place in Bulgaria. I suspect you knew this, which is why you felt the need to insult me at a personal level with offensive remarks and profanity, because you probably got a little desperate and were backed into a corner that you simply couldn't get out of anymore. Hence why you also stated to me that I shouldn't answer, because deep down you know you have no counter arguments remaining.

The reason why I consider Whyte to be a 'duck' for 'ducking' Pulev, is because he backed out of the fight, AFTER his team lost the purse bid. Now, if Whyte and Pulev were not arranging a fight at all in the first place, and they weren't in any negotiations and no purse bids took place, and if Whyte decided to fight Parker, then in that context, Whyte wouldn't be considered a 'duck' for 'ducking' Pulev. But what makes it a 'duck', is the fact that Whyte backed out of the fight against Pulev, AFTER the purse bid was already over. And no amount of excuses, be it money, fame, paper-view status and etc. is going to change the little fact that Whyte ducked Pulev because he backed out of an arranged fight. Nor would your personal insults, directed at me, are going to change this little fact.

[Luis Fernando12]

Parker absolutely demolished Fury, it wasn't even competative, you clearly haven't even seen the fight and only listened to the comments afterwards. Despite home advantage for Fury against Parker and despite home advantage of Pulev against Fury. Those are the facts, please at least watch the fight before posting even more dumb answers. Whyte ain't gonna fight for a couple of 100k dollars any more. Whyte is a PPV fighter.

Pulev 'destroyed' Fury even more. Pulev inflicted more damage on Fury than Parker did and also won by a wider margin in the scorecard.

PPV fighter my ass. Whyte arguably lost against Chisora and was on the verge of getting stopped in the 12th round. Whyte is utter garbage! Whilst Pulev beat Chisora with very little effort and in dominant fashion.

Pulev might have had the hometown advantage with the refs and such, but when he fought Chisora he simply had a split decision win, that's all. Whyte is a PPV fighter, weather you like it or not. Whyte made well over 10 times the money in boxing compared to Pulev in the past 3 years.

Pulev dominated Chisora from start to finish. Even though one judge had it falsely scored in favor of Chisora. If anything, that proves Pulev didn't really have much of a hometown advantage, since one of the judges falsely favored Chisora. And can you find just one example of a hometown boxer being unfairly favored by the officials in Bulgaria against a foreign opponent?

Also, I don't care at all, or could give a rats ass as to which boxer gets paid more or which boxer gets paid less. Since I don't receive the money that those boxers earn, and I'm fairly confident you don't either. So Whyte supposedly earning more money means nothing to me. And it shouldn't to you either, if you're not also receiving Whyte's money.

As a boxing fan, I care mostly that the big and interesting fights happen. Only a TOTAL fanboy / fanatic will talk about money and financial reasons for why the fighter they like, should avoid fights. You seem like an insane Dillian Whyte fanatic / fanboy!

[candyslim]

None of your excuses, CHANGES THE FACT THAT Whyte avoided a fight against Pulev, after team Pulev won the purse bid and forced the fight to take place in Bulgaria.

You could perhaps state that Whyte AVOIDED / DUCKED Pulev for better financial reasons or for better "career advancement" reasons. However, the point remains, that Whyte did indeed avoid Pulev after team Pulev won the purse bid, irrespective of whatever excuse or reason you use to justify the avoidance.

I'm sorry but you really are a fukcing idiot, life is too short to waste any more time arguing with you. If I offer Whyte 25 quid to fight me do I get to claim he ducked me when he treats my offer with the contempt it deserves?

Don't answer I'm not interested. Other people have called you a troll and what is particularly sad is that I don't believe you are one.

You're personal insults, remarks, profanity and Ad Hominem attacks, won't change the fact that Dillian Whyte avoided / ducked Kubrat Pulev, AFTER his team lost the purse bid and AFTER the fight was forced to take place in Bulgaria. I suspect you knew this, which is why you felt the need to insult me at a personal level with offensive remarks and profanity, because you probably got a little desperate and were backed into a corner that you simply couldn't get out of anymore. Hence why you also stated to me that I shouldn't answer, because deep down you know you have no counter arguments remaining.

The reason why I consider Whyte to be a 'duck' for 'ducking' Pulev, is because he backed out of the fight, AFTER his team lost the purse bid. Now, if Whyte and Pulev were not arranging a fight at all in the first place, and they weren't in any negotiations and no purse bids took place, and if Whyte decided to fight Parker, then in that context, Whyte wouldn't be considered a 'duck' for 'ducking' Pulev. But what makes it a 'duck', is the fact that Whyte backed out of the fight against Pulev, AFTER the purse bid was already over. And no amount of excuses, be it money, fame, paper-view status and etc. is going to change the little fact that Whyte ducked Pulev because he backed out of an arranged fight. Nor would your personal insults, directed at me, are going to change this little fact.

I am not in the habit of insulting people with or without profanity. The list of people I have been rude to on this forum is well under double figures, and of those who have been subjected more than once, I believe you are the only current member of the forum. I derive no pleasure in being unpleasant to people. It is probably safe to say that (like the red ball in snooker), for every time I have taken a pot at anyone else, I have taken at least one at you. This isn't personal in that I don't know your age, what you look like, or where you come from, yet it is no accident and I know many others share my disbelief of, and exasperation with you. I find myself disagreeing with almost every other poster, some on a regular basis yet rarely do I feel any need to be anything other than cordial and respectful.

What annoys me more than anything are those who would disrespect a fighter who takes on all comers, and then to accuse such a fighter of ducking is extremely offensive to me. This is just one of your crimes against reason but it is the latest to provoke me - I f you cannot see that Dillian Whyte has a record of taking on opponents who have the potential to beat him, second only to Joshua (who as unified champion is required to face quality opposition whereas Dillian is not) then you are a complete fool who I wish to waste no further time on.

As for backing me into a corner where I have no answer, Jeez you do like to flatter yourself don't you? I keep saying I'm not going to respond to you yet here I go again. Maybe you're not the only fool in this dialogue.