Tyson Fury versus Luis Ortiz?

[Enlightened-One]

Let’s imagine a scenario whereby the following happens:

• Anthony Joshua faces Dillian Whyte at Wembley Stadium on the 13th April, 2019 and will then engage in another mandatory defence of his title in September against Kubrat Pulev (IBF) or Oleksandr Usyk (WBO)

I reckon the following may happen:

• Deontay Wilder will perform a mandatory defence of his WBC title against Dominic Breazeale
• Dillian Whyte will be removed from the WBC’s rankings, due to challenging AJ for one of the other versions of the world heavyweight championship

I strongly suspect that the WBC will find a way to appease the complaints filed by both Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn and the BBBofC, by ordering a final eliminator between Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz (as the Cuban was previously ordered to face Dillian Whyte in another WBC-mandated eliminator).

The winner will instated as the new mandatory challenger to the WBC world heavyweight championship and will become Wilder’s next opponent, after Breazeale. 'The Bronze Bomber' won't be allowed to participate in an interim voluntary title defence. Instead he'll have to face the winner of the Fury-Ortiz bout.

So assuming that this scenario plays out, because there’s every chance it will, then what are your predictions for a potential bout between Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Imagine all that happens.

If Kauffman was able to take Ortiz 10 rounds, wasn't really hurt in the end either, was just taking too many hits and stopped on his feet.

Fury would easily take Ortiz 12 rounds and dominate a decision win. Fury would make Ortiz miss. Doubt Ortiz would score a knockdown..

BTW, How has Fury done with southpaws in the past?


Also, does a challenger get removed from other orgs rankings if he just challenges for another world title? I thought it was if someone wins..
No doubt they'd lower his ranking.

[ewenhay]

Fury won't be fighting eliminators.

It wouldn't interest him in the slightest

[Enlightened-One]

Also, does a challenger get removed from other orgs rankings if he just challenges for another world title? I thought it was if someone wins..
No doubt they'd lower his ranking.

The WBC regard any fighter that challenges for another governing bodies world championship as being unavailable, which resulted in them being removed from their ratings.

Alexander Povetkin was rated 4th by the WBC before his bout against Anthony Joshua was announced as a WBA mandatory. The WBC then removed him from their ratings (with the status of being “NOT AVAILABE”).

Shortly after being defeated, Povetkin was eventually instated to the WBC’s rankings in 7th place.

We've seen this also happen with Jesse Hart's rating when he become the WBO's mandatory when David Benavidez was the WBC champion in 2016.

[Enlightened-One]

Fury won't be fighting eliminators.

It wouldn't interest him in the slightest

There wasn’t an immediate rematch clause in place to secure a guaranteed second bout between Wilder-Fury in the event of a draw.

Tyson Fury’s team would like to force Deontay Wilder into granting a rematch, but The Bronze Bomber’s team were very non-committal about engaging in a second bout anytime soon.

So, it makes sense for Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn to force the WBC to instate Tyson Fury as being their mandatory challenger. Unfortunately, the WBC are unlikely to allow the Brit to jump the queue ahead of Luis Ortiz, which is the reason why I feel a final eliminator will be ordered between ‘The Gypsy King’ and the Cuban.

I’ll concede that Fury may not be interested in engaging in a final eliminator, but it is a means to force a guaranteed rematch between himself and Deontay Wilder. So he might "have to" do it.

Also, it’s clear that Tyson Fury needs to maintain the momentum he gained from his bout against Deontay Wilder, since it’s obvious that he should no longer be participating in bouts against opponents of a similar ilk to the likes of Francesco Pianeta and Sefer Seferi.

Therefore, I feel that from multiple perspectives, Luis Ortiz would be the ideal opponent for Tyson Fury’s next outing, assuming the Brit fails to secure an immediate rematch against Deontay Wilder.

The scenario I’ve described may not necessarily reflect future reality, but my prediction is logical, because it’s based on an accurate interpretation of the WBC’s rules, rankings and also the current boxing landscape.

[ValMar]

Fury by wide decision.

[TheGingerBomber]

Ortiz would have to KO Fury early. That ain’t happening for me. Fury by late KO.

[jamamb]

ortiz too plodding and one paced, his style is easier for fury then for wilder

fury comfy ud

[Ricky]

Who cares about Ortiz? He's done, too old, too slow. Looked like total ass on Saturday.

[gilgamesh]

Like I've heard someone say Ortiz has no 2nd gear. He's a solid boxer, but he just kinda fights at the same pace throughout the fight. I can see him possibly buzzing or stunning Fury a time or two. Maybe even knocking him down if he lands his straight left right on the money, but the majority of the bout would be Fury outmaneuvering him, and shutting down his chances at offense.

Fury just needs to make sure to actually deliver the offensive part of the fight, and not just the defensive part.

[DrDuke]

Fury will outbox Ortiz for sure. That's not even the fight, that is really needed now. Fury, Wilder, Joshua should fight each other. Finally their rivalries are settled with Fury-Wilder bout. And Ortiz will be more interesting to see against Povetkin. Both have similar roles in the division, both are at the similar stages of their careers.

[oogiebe]

Fury will outbox Ortiz for sure. That's not even the fight, that is really needed now. Fury, Wilder, Joshua should fight each other. Finally their rivalries are settled with Fury-Wilder bout. And Ortiz will be more interesting to see against Povetkin. Both have similar roles in the division, both are at the similar stages of their careers.

Povetkin is done. I believe NOW that Fury would outlast Ortiz and win UD.

[ewenhay]

I think both Povetkin and Ortiz are done. They don't really feature in the division moving forwards.

[ironbeard]

Fury will outbox Ortiz for sure. That's not even the fight, that is really needed now. Fury, Wilder, Joshua should fight each other. Finally their rivalries are settled with Fury-Wilder bout. And Ortiz will be more interesting to see against Povetkin. Both have similar roles in the division, both are at the similar stages of their careers.

Ortiz v Povetkin in NYC would do quite well.

[DrDuke]

Fury will outbox Ortiz for sure. That's not even the fight, that is really needed now. Fury, Wilder, Joshua should fight each other. Finally their rivalries are settled with Fury-Wilder bout. And Ortiz will be more interesting to see against Povetkin. Both have similar roles in the division, both are at the similar stages of their careers.

Povetkin is done. I believe NOW that Fury would outlast Ortiz and win UD.

Povetkin is at the final stages of his career, but he's not done. So as Ortiz. Both looked decent in their last losses and both even arguably were edging those fights before being KOed.

[HomicideHenry]

I see Fury-Whyte happening, and maybe Ortiz-Joyce. But if Fury fights Ortiz, I think Fury either wins easily by decision or he actually wins by TKO because Ortiz is so slow and old.