FURY VS WILDER POLL

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Who won?

Tyson Fury
115
75%
Draw
27
18%
Deontay Wilder
12
8%
 
Total votes: 154

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Watched the fight last night with no sound. Wilder won at most three rounds (thats including the 2 KD rounds)

This was obviously a home cooking for Wilder. Two fights in a row now that the refs are carrying him. First the ridiculous break he got from the ref against Ortiz and now these ridiculous cards. I am even more convinced that he will get KTFO if he ever steps in the ring with Joshua.

Fury was fighting at like 75% his best and he was absolutely outclassing Wilder at times.
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:lol:
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dagilechia wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:54
ironbeard wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 12:49
dagilechia wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 11:07 ironbeard must be trolling. i have asked him what rounds, in his opinion, Wilder clearly won, of course i have received no answer.
I am not the one participating in multiple circle wanks at once like you are, dagilechia. :lol:

Few of the rounds were clear. I just don’t value tongue wagging and lobbying the judges by raising your hands like he won the fight after every round, as much as you do. :OhYes:
i don't value that as well. and i wonder in what ''circle wanks''i have ever participated, i can't recall even one of them :lol:
:maybe: Circle wank, whinefest, pity party.
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RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:50
Lennox wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:13 rd 1 Wilder but very close.
rd 2 Fury but very close.
rd 3 Fury close
rd 4 Fury close
rd 5 Fury
rd 6 Fury
rd 7 Wilder but very close
rd 8 Fury
rd 9 Wilder 10-8
rd 10 Fury
rd 11 Fury
rd 12 Wilder 10-8

There were in my opinon 7 rounds that you can't dispute, 5 rounds you could so if you gave all to DW it's 115-111.

I had it 114-112 to Fury , you could make a case Fury won rds 1 & 7 (the UK commentary said he won them, though gave rd 2 to Wilder) that gives a range of 116-110 to TF. 116 was the maximum points TF could get. Giving Wilder the 2nd round the result is 113-113.
Fair enough. Close fight. Bit of a stinker though so not sure i can be bothered sitting through it again.

I don't make any apologies for giving a round to the man holding the centre of the ring trying to engage when a round is close. I think i had Wilder r 1, 2,4 and 5 (or maybe 7) in addition to the 2 KD rounds.
So you gave Wilder 6 rounds for lunging forward and missing punches while Fury boxed and moved around the ring like he was controlling the fight.

Ring generalship: Fury
Defense: Fury
Clean punching: Fury (landed more cleaner shots)
Effective aggressiveness: Wilder....I guess. He was effective for about a total of 60-90 seconds Saturday night.
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WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:48
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:50
Lennox wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:13 rd 1 Wilder but very close.
rd 2 Fury but very close.
rd 3 Fury close
rd 4 Fury close
rd 5 Fury
rd 6 Fury
rd 7 Wilder but very close
rd 8 Fury
rd 9 Wilder 10-8
rd 10 Fury
rd 11 Fury
rd 12 Wilder 10-8

There were in my opinon 7 rounds that you can't dispute, 5 rounds you could so if you gave all to DW it's 115-111.

I had it 114-112 to Fury , you could make a case Fury won rds 1 & 7 (the UK commentary said he won them, though gave rd 2 to Wilder) that gives a range of 116-110 to TF. 116 was the maximum points TF could get. Giving Wilder the 2nd round the result is 113-113.
Fair enough. Close fight. Bit of a stinker though so not sure i can be bothered sitting through it again.

I don't make any apologies for giving a round to the man holding the centre of the ring trying to engage when a round is close. I think i had Wilder r 1, 2,4 and 5 (or maybe 7) in addition to the 2 KD rounds.
So you gave Wilder 6 rounds for lunging forward and missing punches while Fury boxed and moved around the ring like he was controlling the fight.

Ring generalship: Fury
Defense: Fury
Clean punching: Fury (landed more cleaner shots)
Effective aggressiveness: Wilder....I guess. He was effective for about a total of 60-90 seconds Saturday night.

You gave Fury 8 rounds or more for getting on his bike, and flicking backhanded slaps at the scary guy weighing 50lb less?

It's incredible listening to you lot criticize Wilder for not doing enough, or missing, as if Fury was doing much himself.

Wilder was the ring general in there. Had Fury felt confident enough to take centre ring and back Wilder up he would have. Infact my greatest respect for Fury came after both knockdowns when he instinctively knew he had to stand his ground. His punches suck though. P4p he's as poor a puncher as Malignaggi or Crolla.
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I rewatched the fight. This time with the sound off, shades drawn, pjs on, and sippy cup in hand. Fell the fornicate asleep.
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RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 19:13
WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:48
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:50

Fair enough. Close fight. Bit of a stinker though so not sure i can be bothered sitting through it again.

I don't make any apologies for giving a round to the man holding the centre of the ring trying to engage when a round is close. I think i had Wilder r 1, 2,4 and 5 (or maybe 7) in addition to the 2 KD rounds.
So you gave Wilder 6 rounds for lunging forward and missing punches while Fury boxed and moved around the ring like he was controlling the fight.

Ring generalship: Fury
Defense: Fury
Clean punching: Fury (landed more cleaner shots)
Effective aggressiveness: Wilder....I guess. He was effective for about a total of 60-90 seconds Saturday night.

You gave Fury 8 rounds or more for getting on his bike, and flicking backhanded slaps at the scary guy weighing 50lb less?

It's incredible listening to you lot criticize Wilder for not doing enough, or missing, as if Fury was doing much himself.

Wilder was the ring general in there. Had Fury felt confident enough to take centre ring and back Wilder up he would have. Infact my greatest respect for Fury came after both knockdowns when he instinctively knew he had to stand his ground. His punches suck though. P4p he's as poor a puncher as Malignaggi or Crolla.
Wilder was the ring general :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Impractical Poster wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 19:59 I rewatched the fight. This time with the sound off, shades drawn, pjs on, and sippy cup in hand. Fell the eff asleep.
:lol: I enjoyed the fight to be honest.
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WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:31
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 19:13
WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:48
So you gave Wilder 6 rounds for lunging forward and missing punches while Fury boxed and moved around the ring like he was controlling the fight.

Ring generalship: Fury
Defense: Fury
Clean punching: Fury (landed more cleaner shots)
Effective aggressiveness: Wilder....I guess. He was effective for about a total of 60-90 seconds Saturday night.

You gave Fury 8 rounds or more for getting on his bike, and flicking backhanded slaps at the scary guy weighing 50lb less?

It's incredible listening to you lot criticize Wilder for not doing enough, or missing, as if Fury was doing much himself.

Wilder was the ring general in there. Had Fury felt confident enough to take centre ring and back Wilder up he would have. Infact my greatest respect for Fury came after both knockdowns when he instinctively knew he had to stand his ground. His punches suck though. P4p he's as poor a puncher as Malignaggi or Crolla.
Wilder was the ring general :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes. Stood in the middle, making Fury scared to throw. Like a General. Fury was the ring bicycle.
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Wilder did fornicate all aside from two knockdowns. He led that fight for 45-60 seconds total. He ate jabs all night, missed with his punches and looked completely lost.
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I mean, just look at the results of the poll.
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WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:36 I mean, just look at the results of the poll.
Half of the people can be part right all of the time
Some of the people can be all right part of the time
But all of the people can't be all right all of the time
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WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:35 Wilder did eff all aside from two knockdowns. He led that fight for 45-60 seconds total. He ate jabs all night, missed with his punches and looked completely lost.
Fury was super active, he was letting his hands go all night, was switching from head-body-head. He threw left hooks, landed uppercuts, 4, 5....6 punch combos. He bamboozled Wilder with fast hands like a heavyweight Linares, got in and out with the feet of a Lomachenko and slipped off the ropes like a prime Mayweather. When he switched to Southpaw he reminded me of a giant Pacquiao and the snap in his punches... both fists, was comparable to Sugar Ray Robinson.
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RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:39
WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:35 Wilder did eff all aside from two knockdowns. He led that fight for 45-60 seconds total. He ate jabs all night, missed with his punches and looked completely lost.
Fury was super active, he was letting his hands go all night, was switching from head-body-head. He threw left hooks, landed uppercuts, 4, 5....6 punch combos. He bamboozled Wilder with fast hands like a heavyweight Linares, got in and out with the feet of a Lomachenko and slipped off the ropes like a prime Mayweather. When he switched to Southpaw he reminded me of a giant Pacquiao and the snap in his punches... both fists, was comparable to Sugar Ray Robinson.
:lol: please tell me this is sarcasm.
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gilgamesh wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:43
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:39
WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:35 Wilder did eff all aside from two knockdowns. He led that fight for 45-60 seconds total. He ate jabs all night, missed with his punches and looked completely lost.
Fury was super active, he was letting his hands go all night, was switching from head-body-head. He threw left hooks, landed uppercuts, 4, 5....6 punch combos. He bamboozled Wilder with fast hands like a heavyweight Linares, got in and out with the feet of a Lomachenko and slipped off the ropes like a prime Mayweather. When he switched to Southpaw he reminded me of a giant Pacquiao and the snap in his punches... both fists, was comparable to Sugar Ray Robinson.
:lol: please tell me this is sarcasm.
No I'm deadly serious. Infact i missed the most obvious comparison... Willie Pep. The man everyone says won a round without throwing a punch. It seems Fury won 24 similar rounds vs Wlad & Wilder.
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RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:45
gilgamesh wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:43
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:39

Fury was super active, he was letting his hands go all night, was switching from head-body-head. He threw left hooks, landed uppercuts, 4, 5....6 punch combos. He bamboozled Wilder with fast hands like a heavyweight Linares, got in and out with the feet of a Lomachenko and slipped off the ropes like a prime Mayweather. When he switched to Southpaw he reminded me of a giant Pacquiao and the snap in his punches... both fists, was comparable to Sugar Ray Robinson.
:lol: please tell me this is sarcasm.
No I'm deadly serious. Infact i missed the most obvious comparison... Willie Pep. The man everyone says won a round without throwing a punch. It seems Fury won 24 similar rounds vs Wlad & Wilder.
:lol: :lol: :bow:
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RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:34
WhenWeWereKings wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:31
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 19:13


You gave Fury 8 rounds or more for getting on his bike, and flicking backhanded slaps at the scary guy weighing 50lb less?

It's incredible listening to you lot criticize Wilder for not doing enough, or missing, as if Fury was doing much himself.

Wilder was the ring general in there. Had Fury felt confident enough to take centre ring and back Wilder up he would have. Infact my greatest respect for Fury came after both knockdowns when he instinctively knew he had to stand his ground. His punches suck though. P4p he's as poor a puncher as Malignaggi or Crolla.
Wilder was the ring general :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes. Stood in the middle, making Fury scared to throw. Like a General. Fury was the ring bicycle.
WTF fight did you watch!? Fury was on the inside slipping punches beautifully. He was not scared one bit. Hell, he even got back up like the Undertaker in the 12th and wobbled Wilder. Fury was not afraid to throw.
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. . . he just didn’t bother to for half the fight.
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gilgamesh wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 03:09 Missed the 5th round. I had Wilder winning 6 rounds, so I'd have it 114-112 Wilder assuming Fury won the 5th.
You had Wilder winning 6 rounds> :o ???
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RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:50
Lennox wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:13
rd 1 Wilder but very close.
rd 2 Fury but very close.
rd 3 Fury close
rd 4 Fury close
rd 5 Fury
rd 6 Fury
rd 7 Wilder but very close
rd 8 Fury
rd 9 Wilder 10-8
rd 10 Fury
rd 11 Fury
rd 12 Wilder 10-8

There were in my opinon 7 rounds that you can't dispute, 5 rounds you could so if you gave all to DW it's 115-111.

I had it 114-112 to Fury , you could make a case Fury won rds 1 & 7 (the UK commentary said he won them, though gave rd 2 to Wilder) that gives a range of 116-110 to TF. 116 was the maximum points TF could get. Giving Wilder the 2nd round the result is 113-113.
Fair enough. Close fight. Bit of a stinker though so not sure i can be bothered sitting through it again.

I don't make any apologies for giving a round to the man holding the centre of the ring trying to engage when a round is close. I think i had Wilder r 1, 2,4 and 5 (or maybe 7) in addition to the 2 KD rounds.
Now this is a very good score card, and you did give a 50/50 round to Wilder. 115-111 or 114-112 is the right call. 113-113 your doctoring the score cards. A score card that had Wilder winning means you don't know how to judge a fight.
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pound per pound wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 10:39
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:50
Lennox wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 10:13
rd 1 Wilder but very close.
rd 2 Fury but very close.
rd 3 Fury close
rd 4 Fury close
rd 5 Fury
rd 6 Fury
rd 7 Wilder but very close
rd 8 Fury
rd 9 Wilder 10-8
rd 10 Fury
rd 11 Fury
rd 12 Wilder 10-8

There were in my opinon 7 rounds that you can't dispute, 5 rounds you could so if you gave all to DW it's 115-111.

I had it 114-112 to Fury , you could make a case Fury won rds 1 & 7 (the UK commentary said he won them, though gave rd 2 to Wilder) that gives a range of 116-110 to TF. 116 was the maximum points TF could get. Giving Wilder the 2nd round the result is 113-113.
Fair enough. Close fight. Bit of a stinker though so not sure i can be bothered sitting through it again.

I don't make any apologies for giving a round to the man holding the centre of the ring trying to engage when a round is close. I think i had Wilder r 1, 2,4 and 5 (or maybe 7) in addition to the 2 KD rounds.
Now this is a very good score card, and you did give a 50/50 round to Wilder. 115-111 or 114-112 is the right call. 113-113 your doctoring the score cards. A score card that had Wilder winning means you don't know how to judge a fight.
Anyone who thinks those early rounds had a clear winner doesn't know how to score a fight, over-eggs negativity, is swung by commentators, or is a Fury fanboy. Possibly all 4.
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pound per pound wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 10:35
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 03:09 Missed the 5th round. I had Wilder winning 6 rounds, so I'd have it 114-112 Wilder assuming Fury won the 5th.
You had Wilder winning 6 rounds> :o ???
Yep

Gonna watch it back this weekend, and take note of the happenings as thoroughly as humanly possible.
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gilgamesh wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 11:21
pound per pound wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 10:35
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Dec 2018, 03:09 Missed the 5th round. I had Wilder winning 6 rounds, so I'd have it 114-112 Wilder assuming Fury won the 5th.
You had Wilder winning 6 rounds> :o ???
Yep

Gonna watch it back this weekend, and take note of the happenings as thoroughly as humanly possible.
That's a David Haye line. :yay:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 11:23
gilgamesh wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 11:21
pound per pound wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 10:35

You had Wilder winning 6 rounds> :o ???
Yep

Gonna watch it back this weekend, and take note of the happenings as thoroughly as humanly possible.
That's a David Haye line. :yay:
I think a lot of people have used that one
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gilgamesh wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 11:24 I think a lot of people have used that one
I've just heard him say it a lot.. He said it backstage to Bellew after he was KTFO'd by Usyk, :OhYes:
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