Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Smith V Golovkin

Smith
13
42%
Golovkin
18
58%
 
Total votes: 31

OH_RickNMorty
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Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by OH_RickNMorty »

Smith and Golovkin meet at 165 LBS.

Both from their last performances — (Smith V Groves) & (Golovkin V Alvarez 2).

Statistics:

SMITH
6’ 3” (Height)
165 LBS (Weight)
78” (Reach)

GOLOVKIN
5’ 10” (Height)
165 LBS (Weight)
70” (Reach)

Callum Smith take the win in my opinion, due to the height and reach (08”!) advantages. Golovkin struggles to land big punches on Smith, and he gets caught with a good right, which ends the fight in the mid rounds.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by gilgamesh »

Chances are if this were to ever happen Golovkin would just have made the full on jump to 168 pounds. I think he's gonna continue on as a Middleweight for now, but I think a fight between him and Callum would be real interesting.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by jamamb »

smith would reck him
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by dagilechia »

i voted Golovkin, to be honest i do not rate current 168 division fighters too high.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by tiny_acres »

jamamb wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 16:24 smith would reck him
:TU: Smith is very talented and so much larger. Too big too good
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by boxing_rocks »

Smith's talent compared to Golovkin's is like Bellew's compared to Usyk's.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by oogiebe »

boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 16:41 Smith's talent compared to Golovkin's is like Bellew's compared to Usyk's.
Harsh but true!
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by jamamb »

smith is f@cking huge though, bellew wasnt compared to bellew, smith is very talented himself too
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by oogiebe »

jamamb wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:01 smith is f@cking huge though, bellew wasnt compared to bellew, smith is very talented himself too
He is, no doubt, 6;3 is pretty tall for a SM, but I like GGG. I said the comp was harsh, but in pure skills, it's true. AT this point though, GGG's age may be a factor.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by oogiebe »

oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:05
jamamb wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:01 smith is f@cking huge though, bellew wasnt compared to bellew, smith is very talented himself too
He is, no doubt, 6;3 is pretty tall for a SM, but I like GGG. I said the comp was harsh, but in pure skills, it's true. AT this point though, GGG's age may be a factor.
Also, not really certain how GGG's power translates to another 8lbs.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by Mexi-Box »

oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:07
oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:05
jamamb wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:01 smith is f@cking huge though, bellew wasnt compared to bellew, smith is very talented himself too
He is, no doubt, 6;3 is pretty tall for a SM, but I like GGG. I said the comp was harsh, but in pure skills, it's true. AT this point though, GGG's age may be a factor.
Also, not really certain how GGG's power translates to another 8lbs.
It'll translate. He dropped Kovalev in sparring.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by oogiebe »

Mexi-Box wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:29
oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:07
oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:05

He is, no doubt, 6;3 is pretty tall for a SM, but I like GGG. I said the comp was harsh, but in pure skills, it's true. AT this point though, GGG's age may be a factor.
Also, not really certain how GGG's power translates to another 8lbs.
It'll translate. He dropped Kovalev in sparring.
When was that though? I'm picking GGG over Smith, but I have my doubts.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by skanksta »

Great fight, tough to call.
2 years ago GGG, now I feel Smith would be a bit too young, too fresh and with a BIG size advantage.

He has a big size advantage @ SMW (Groves looked small ?) and GGG is a small MW.
Smith can be a stiff plodder at times. If I was to pick a MW to beat him it would be Danny Jacobs - smooth mover.

(Or Canelo on points of course :shame: )
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by boxing_rocks »

Golovkin was also dominating Groves in sparring and hurt him to the body.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by oogiebe »

boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:41 Golovkin was also dominating Groves in sparring and hurt him to the body.
Sparring is meaningless.. Smith took groves out in 7, so bad example anyway. I'd like to see this fight.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by boxing_rocks »

oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:44
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:41 Golovkin was also dominating Groves in sparring and hurt him to the body.
Sparring is meaningless.. Smith took groves out in 7, so bad example anyway. I'd like to see this fight.
Froch took undefeated Groves out twice and then refused to fight GGG.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by lazboy »

Interesting fight. The tough kickboxer nicky Hol took Smith to 12. Smith is a lhw and would have a lot of confidence after groves. Does he have the savvy to handle the golovkin pressure.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by oogiebe »

boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:48
oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:44
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:41 Golovkin was also dominating Groves in sparring and hurt him to the body.
Sparring is meaningless.. Smith took groves out in 7, so bad example anyway. I'd like to see this fight.
Froch took undefeated Groves out twice and then refused to fight GGG.
Four/Five years ago was a prime GGG.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by sharpei_louis »

Two or three years ago I'd have gone GGG on smart pressure but I think GGG has got progressively easier to hit as his feet and reflexes aren't what they were..
Smith is a big hitter, still improving and absolutely massive. I honestly think he'd win a bruising encounter with a late stoppage and after we'd all recognise GGG as being past his prime.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by keirw »

165 lbs would be hard for Smith to make, but at 168lbs I'd expect Smith to win a very tough and entertaining fight.

There are plenty of good fights for GGG at smw.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by keirw »

boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:48
oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:44
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:41 Golovkin was also dominating Groves in sparring and hurt him to the body.
Sparring is meaningless.. Smith took groves out in 7, so bad example anyway. I'd like to see this fight.
Froch took undefeated Groves out twice and then refused to fight GGG.
Froch retired, you could argue he 'refused' to fight Degale more so than GGG.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by Enlightened-One »

keirw wrote: 12 Dec 2018, 04:40
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:48
oogiebe wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:44

Sparring is meaningless.. Smith took groves out in 7, so bad example anyway. I'd like to see this fight.
Froch took undefeated Groves out twice and then refused to fight GGG.
Froch retired, you could argue he 'refused' to fight Degale more so than GGG.
What makes you suggest that Carl Froch refused to face James DeGale?

I'm not sure it's even accurate to suggest that Froch "refused" to face GGG either, since the man from Nottingham was a retired fighter when the discussions took place and the terms of the bout weren't agreed (i.e. the weight). The Brit was the A-side and the B-side didn't agree to the terms.

People aren't trying to rewrite history, surely? Come one lads, let's see your proof. :TU:
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by Ricky »

boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 16:41 Smith's talent compared to Golovkin's is like Bellew's compared to Usyk's.


Ggg would lay waste to Smith.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by Enlightened-One »

OH_RickNMorty wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 15:55 Smith and Golovkin meet at 165 LBS.

Both from their last performances — (Smith V Groves) & (Golovkin V Alvarez 2).

Statistics:

SMITH
6’ 3” (Height)
165 LBS (Weight)
78” (Reach)

GOLOVKIN
5’ 10” (Height)
165 LBS (Weight)
70” (Reach)

Callum Smith take the win in my opinion, due to the height and reach (08”!) advantages. Golovkin struggles to land big punches on Smith, and he gets caught with a good right, which ends the fight in the mid rounds.
If a bout ever happened between Smith and GGG, the Kazakh would rightly be ridiculed for proposing a 165lbs catchweight, based on his own refusal to face smaller men at catchweights, coupled with his own criticism of other fighters that enagage in bouts that aren't competed at the standard weights.
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Re: Callum Smith V Gennady Golovkin

Post by keirw »

Enlightened-One wrote: 12 Dec 2018, 04:59
keirw wrote: 12 Dec 2018, 04:40
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Dec 2018, 17:48
Froch took undefeated Groves out twice and then refused to fight GGG.
Froch retired, you could argue he 'refused' to fight Degale more so than GGG.
What makes you suggest that Carl Froch refused to face James DeGale?

I'm not sure it's even accurate to suggest that Froch "refused" to face GGG either, since the man from Nottingham was a retired fighter when the discussions took place and the terms of the bout weren't agreed (i.e. the weight). The Brit was the A-side and the B-side didn't agree to the terms.

People aren't trying to rewrite history, surely? Come one lads, let's see your proof. :TU:
I'm not accusing Froch of avoiding anyone, I was just using Degale as an example of a realistic fight that didn't happen due to his reyirement, as appose to the GGG fight that was never really on the cards.

My point was more that he didn't refuse to fight GGG because he was scared (which the poster had tried to imply), but that he simply retired and there were other far more realistic candidates who also missed out on fighting him.
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