Filip Hrgović next ....Champ

[morm]

What next for Filip Hrgović ?
My wish list :
1. Dereck Chisora
2.Robert Helenius
3.Dillon Carman
4.Johann Duhaupas
5.Tomasz Adamek

[dagilechia]

What next for Filip Hrgović ?
My wish list :
1. Dereck Chisora
2.Robert Helenius
3.Dillon Carman
4.Johann Duhaupas
5.Tomasz Adamek

Tomasz Adamek is retired, Chisora fights Whyte. Carman is not a big step up, Helenius and Duhaupas would be good fights at this stage

[gregregegg]

id like the path of.
Charles martin
christian hammer
kownaki
Miller
Title shot.
and he can skip any of those steps if he wants.

[dagilechia]

8th fight: Adrian Granat or Bogdan Dinu
9th: Alex Leapai, Joey Dawejko or Eric Molina
10th: Robert Helenius, Mariusz Wach, Charles Martin or Johann Duhaupas
11th: Francesco Pianeta, Travis Kauffman, Chris Arreola or Gerald Washington
12th: Artur Szpilka, Carlos Takam or Christian Hammer
13th: Adam Kownacki, Dominic Breazeale or Bryant Jennings
14th: Kubrat Pulev, Jarrell Miller, Dillian Whyte or Joseph Parker
15th: Joshua/Wilder/Fury/Usyk or whoever will be the champ at this time (late 2020/early 2021)

[ValMar]

Helenius, Martin, Washington..............

[Pukka Cheese]

Id like to see him go for Kabayel's euro title next

[oogiebe]

Id like to see him go for Kabayel's euro title next

Nice shout!

[DrDuke]

It's difficult to predict his path to the championship. It has always been like this way: if you lose last fight, you're a bum, if you win it, you're a contender. Who thought much of Helenius after Whyte loss? Now he is back on track with KOing Teper. Chisora was nearly written off after Kabayel loss, but he KOed Takam recently and became rated higher. Hrgovic won't be exactly next champ, cause it's too much time for him to step up for that. Fury and Usyk, for example, are closer to the shots and even considered to have some real chances of winning it.

[oogiebe]

It's difficult to predict his path to the championship. It has always been like this way: if you lose last fight, you're a bum, if you win it, you're a contender. Who thought much of Helenius after Whyte loss? Now he is back on track with KOing Teper. Chisora was nearly written off after Kabayel loss, but he KOed Takam recently and became rated higher. Hrgovic won't be exactly next champ, cause it's too much time for him to step up for that. Fury and Usyk, for example, are closer to the shots and even considered to have some real chances of winning it.

Hrgovic is promising but untested. He has good skills, but we haven't seen him under fire, like Joshua v. Wlad or Wilder v. Ortiz. I'm not saying the latter fights were huge defining moments, but we learned a lot about those fighters from those bouts. Took them to the next level in the eyes of the boxing world, so to speak.

[DrDuke]

It's difficult to predict his path to the championship. It has always been like this way: if you lose last fight, you're a bum, if you win it, you're a contender. Who thought much of Helenius after Whyte loss? Now he is back on track with KOing Teper. Chisora was nearly written off after Kabayel loss, but he KOed Takam recently and became rated higher. Hrgovic won't be exactly next champ, cause it's too much time for him to step up for that. Fury and Usyk, for example, are closer to the shots and even considered to have some real chances of winning it.

Hrgovic is promising but untested. He has good skills, but we haven't seen him under fire, like Joshua v. Wlad or Wilder v. Ortiz. I'm not saying the latter fights were huge defining moments, but we learned a lot about those fighters from those bouts. Took them to the next level in the eyes of the boxing world, so to speak.

Yeah. And he also hasn't yet faced an opponent, who would have been comparable to him in skills, but not a past-prime one.

[oogiebe]

It's difficult to predict his path to the championship. It has always been like this way: if you lose last fight, you're a bum, if you win it, you're a contender. Who thought much of Helenius after Whyte loss? Now he is back on track with KOing Teper. Chisora was nearly written off after Kabayel loss, but he KOed Takam recently and became rated higher. Hrgovic won't be exactly next champ, cause it's too much time for him to step up for that. Fury and Usyk, for example, are closer to the shots and even considered to have some real chances of winning it.

Hrgovic is promising but untested. He has good skills, but we haven't seen him under fire, like Joshua v. Wlad or Wilder v. Ortiz. I'm not saying the latter fights were huge defining moments, but we learned a lot about those fighters from those bouts. Took them to the next level in the eyes of the boxing world, so to speak.

Yeah. And he also hasn't yet faced an opponent, who would have been comparable to him in skills, but not a past-prime one.

LOL! I knew someone would go there. Regardless of Wlad and Ortiz' ages or past their primes, they both brought out the something we hadn't seen from AJ and Wilder, which is to my point.

[DrDuke]

Hrgovic is promising but untested. He has good skills, but we haven't seen him under fire, like Joshua v. Wlad or Wilder v. Ortiz. I'm not saying the latter fights were huge defining moments, but we learned a lot about those fighters from those bouts. Took them to the next level in the eyes of the boxing world, so to speak.

Yeah. And he also hasn't yet faced an opponent, who would have been comparable to him in skills, but not a past-prime one.

LOL! I knew someone would go there. Regardless of Wlad and Ortiz' ages or past their primes, they both brought out the something we hadn't seen from AJ and Wilder, which is to my point.

I'm not blaming him though. He's a prospect, everything goes the logical way. However, Wilder's and Joshua's resumes include prime or near-prime opponents too.

[oogiebe]

Yeah. And he also hasn't yet faced an opponent, who would have been comparable to him in skills, but not a past-prime one.

LOL! I knew someone would go there. Regardless of Wlad and Ortiz' ages or past their primes, they both brought out the something we hadn't seen from AJ and Wilder, which is to my point.

I'm not blaming him though. He's a prospect, everything goes the logical way. However, Wilder's and Joshua's resumes include prime or near-prime opponents too.

Agreed, but those two fights made both fighters have to dig deeper than ever before and took each to the brink, IMHO. A place where neither had been before. AJ came back from a KD and was in very bad trouble, and Wilder was obviously on the brink of being stopped when he came to smash Ortiz. Doesn't matter how old or past their primes their opponents were, fact is, they got tested a never tested previously. Hrgovic will step up in his next fight I'm certain. We know so very little about him so far, so I agree with you that he's never even faced a fighter closely skilled as he may be.

[oogiebe]

LOL! I knew someone would go there. Regardless of Wlad and Ortiz' ages or past their primes, they both brought out the something we hadn't seen from AJ and Wilder, which is to my point.

I'm not blaming him though. He's a prospect, everything goes the logical way. However, Wilder's and Joshua's resumes include prime or near-prime opponents too.

Agreed, but those two fights made both fighters have to dig deeper than ever before and took each to the brink, IMHO. A place where neither had been before. AJ came back from a KD and was in very bad trouble, and Wilder was obviously on the brink of being stopped when he came to smash Ortiz. Doesn't matter how old or past their primes their opponents were, fact is, they got tested a never tested previously. Hrgovic will step up in his next fight I'm certain. We know so very little about him so far, so I agree with you that he's never even faced a fighter closely skilled as he may be.

The prospect I really love is Efe Ajagba. I think this kid (age 24 with pretty solid amateur career) is the best of the young prospects. He has size; (at 6'5", 235LBS looks like he's 210 so he will get larger as he matures)speed; terrific power; and outstanding fundamentals. He too hasn't come close to being tested, but he looks terrific! I hope we see him take the next step in 2019.

[Pukka Cheese]

Id like to see him go for Kabayel's euro title next

Nice shout!

Think its the perfect step-up for Hrgovic, was surprised noone else mentioned it.
Good fight and nice EBU belt...
I see Christian Hammer is fighting for a WBO euro belt in Germany tomorrow night, winner of that vs Hrgovic would be good too.

Lots of good europeans around that level, if Hrgovic is a big draw in croatia (43% of tv viewers was it? ) he should be able to lure a few of them over there.

[Best Coast]

I'm not blaming him though. He's a prospect, everything goes the logical way. However, Wilder's and Joshua's resumes include prime or near-prime opponents too.

Agreed, but those two fights made both fighters have to dig deeper than ever before and took each to the brink, IMHO. A place where neither had been before. AJ came back from a KD and was in very bad trouble, and Wilder was obviously on the brink of being stopped when he came to smash Ortiz. Doesn't matter how old or past their primes their opponents were, fact is, they got tested a never tested previously. Hrgovic will step up in his next fight I'm certain. We know so very little about him so far, so I agree with you that he's never even faced a fighter closely skilled as he may be.

The prospect I really love is Efe Ajagba. I think this kid (age 24 with pretty solid amateur career) is the best of the young prospects. He has size; (at 6'5", 235LBS looks like he's 210 so he will get larger as he matures)speed; terrific power; and outstanding fundamentals. He too hasn't come close to being tested, but he looks terrific! I hope we see him take the next step in 2019.

Hrgovic and Joe Joyce are fighting tougher opposition as pros but I really like Ajagba too, especially as far as raw potential goes. His great physical condition is a plus and one physical advantage he has over other HWs is his phenomenal reach > 88"!!

Here's how his reach compares with other top HWs & HW prospects:
Ajagba 88"
Fury 85"
Wilder 83"
Joshua 82"
Tony Yoka 82"
Wlad K 81"
Joe Joyce 80"
Hrgovic, Dychko, Dubois ALL UNKNOWN
Even the freakish, 7'0" Nikolai Valuev had a reach of only 85".

[jamamb]

i almost wondered if that was an error, 88 is freakish unless the guy is like 7 feet tall

[dagilechia]

in fact his reach probably is 83''-85'' not 88'' just like Fury isn't 206cm but ~202cm. those measurements are often incorrect, for example according to BoxRec Sulęcki's reach is 68'' while Centeno's is 75 1/2'', Jacobs' 73'', no way.

[oogiebe]

in fact his reach probably is 83''-85'' not 88'' just like Fury isn't 206cm but ~202cm. those measurements are often incorrect, for example according to BoxRec Sulęcki's reach is 68'' while Centeno's is 75 1/2'', Jacobs' 73'', no way.

I've seen his 88" reach mentioned on a lot of websites/boxing sites and articles using terms like "Freakish reach" to describe how Efe uses it to set up his punches. So...maybe?

[dagilechia]

in fact his reach probably is 83''-85'' not 88'' just like Fury isn't 206cm but ~202cm. those measurements are often incorrect, for example according to BoxRec Sulęcki's reach is 68'' while Centeno's is 75 1/2'', Jacobs' 73'', no way.

I've seen his 88" reach mentioned on a lot of websites/boxing sites and articles using terms like "Freakish reach" to describe how Efe uses it to set up his punches. So...maybe?

i guess those sites mentioned it just because they have seen it on boxrec

[oogiebe]

in fact his reach probably is 83''-85'' not 88'' just like Fury isn't 206cm but ~202cm. those measurements are often incorrect, for example according to BoxRec Sulęcki's reach is 68'' while Centeno's is 75 1/2'', Jacobs' 73'', no way.

I've seen his 88" reach mentioned on a lot of websites/boxing sites and articles using terms like "Freakish reach" to describe how Efe uses it to set up his punches. So...maybe?

i guess those sites mentioned it just because they have seen it on boxrec

Who knows. When he steps up and fights a fringe contender, we'll get a proper tale of the tape I imagine.

[morm]

Sauerland Team make us happy....next oponent for Filip is Kabayel or Hammer
The people choise

[DrDuke]

Sauerland Team make us happy....next oponent for Filip is Kabayel or Hammer
The people choise

Both are good options, just what he needs now.

[oogiebe]

Decent article on up and coming HW's.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/h ... 019/106184

[HeavyHitters]

Izbaki will kick his arce in about 2 years time.