British boxers taken to sacrificial altar in USA

[REEVE]

Howard clarke got a world title shot to from what i remember

[Nightmare Roy]

Howard clarke got a world title shot to from what i remember

Yeah against Fernando Vargas, first time I saw him fight, became a big fan after that he was a beast.

[Coco]

Most purses aren't reported which is maybe why most people overestimate it.
Cleverly got $100k as champion v Jack on the PBF undercard. Jack only got $750k.
If Fielding got a million he already has retirement money and should be in Eddies debt.
Cleverly's money is more top whack for a typical world title defence, a lot ore on much less.

[jamamb]

i heard clevs real payment was actually more like 400-500k . a lot of times for non american fighters especially the 'offical' purse reported by the commission in the us isnt the full thing. happens regularly for mexican fighters fighting in the us too, salido and jhonny being examples i know of

[Oiky]

Think fieldings laughing all the way to the bank tbh

Got a career high payday, he knew what was gonna happen, but he didn’t care cos of the dough

Didn’t canelo get 33mill?

Crollas in line to get shown up by lomachenko

[jamamb]

lomas side doesnt seem to be entertaining the crolla fight much. i dont know how it will end up with the sanctioning bodies but they clearly want the commey-chaniev winner for the ibf, then it seems berchelt for later in the year. much rather have that then ant so i hope lomas side get there way

[Oiky]

I hope they get their way too

Crollas a decent fella, but has no business being in there with Loma

[jonp]

Folk complain that fighters don't step up and then complain when they do.

exactly right

[Stuarty]

It's a good deal/opportunity for the fighter but it's not great for the fans as we know what's gonna happen before they're even in the ring!

[REEVE]

Eddie gets some stick on here but if he has got his domestic level fighter a million for a fight he has done a great job.
I think Welborn got about 25k

Thats horrendous if its true mate 25k is nowt really

[Coco]

Eddie gets some stick on here but if he has got his domestic level fighter a million for a fight he has done a great job.
I think Welborn got about 25k

Thats horrendous if its true mate 25k is nowt really

Just checking it was $30k
But of course if we are talking in pound notes and after expenses, he will see £12k.
And this ladies and gentlemen is the reality of boxing. If you are adding this type of money to your wage it's nice, but in itself even at this level it's not a wage in itself.
Fielding has had a proper touch.
As I mentioned before Cleverly as champion in a top show getting top whack was $100k before expenses.
Precious few fighters earn anything in boxing that could contribute to your retirement, it is a contribution to your existing salary.

[Fray Bentos]

We need Bennie on this thread...

Jose Torres w ko 2 Chic Calderwood

Jerry Quarry w ko 2 Brian London (went the distance the first time around...)

Ruben Olivares w rsf 2 Alan Rudkin

Rocky Marciano w rsf 9 Don Cockell

[Coco]

Richard Dawson was fed to Freddie Flintoff
Mike Middleton was fed to Audley Harrison

[bennie]

British fighters have never really excelled in world title fights in America (with a few exceptions). When Alan Minter outscored Vito Antuofermo for the world middleweight title in Las Vegas in March 1980, he was the first Brit to win a world title in the States since Jack "Kid" Berg in 1917, which says it all. Dave "Boy" Green never stood a chance against Sugar Ray Leonard in Maryland in 1980, and Maurice Hope was also thrown to the wolves against Wilfred Benitez in Las Vegas a year later, even as defending champion. Both Brits picked up big paydays but were badly knocked out. John Conteh suffered five knockdowns in his rematch with Matthew Saad Muhammad in 1980 before he was rescued in round four but he gave the Philadelphian a great battle in their first encounter in Atlantic City, dropping a narrow decision. However, Conteh was special. Dennis Andries ventured to Detroit in 1987 to face local man Tommy Hearns and took a prolonged beating. That was a terrible match.

[banjo]

Alex Stewart vs Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson and Michael Moorer.

Though Stewart actually lived in the US

[keirw]

lomas side doesnt seem to be entertaining the crolla fight much. i dont know how it will end up with the sanctioning bodies but they clearly want the commey-chaniev winner for the ibf, then it seems berchelt for later in the year. much rather have that then ant so i hope lomas side get there way

I have feeling Hearn and Gallagher know that and are expecting Crolla to fight for a vacant belt in the spring.

[jameswilson]

I think we all know that Cleverly will have got more than $100k from avenues outside of the released purse. Just the same as Callum Smith and Luke Campbell did not fight for free on the undercard of Brook v Porter as was reported.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Rocky sold his belt basically. Very poor performance. Never really wanted to be in there from the first bell.

Maybe the deal was, take the fight, take the money, and we'll only hit you in the body.

Yeh. And then piss blood the next morning.

Don’t body shots hurt more than head shots?

[MightyWarrior]

You won’t get a tougher assignment than British Champ Andy Holligan getting sent over to Mexico to take on Julio Cesar Chavez.

[samwbr]

George Jupp getting a shot at Miguel Berchelt on Mexico was a pretty one sided affair. Don't think he's fought since.


Edit:
Actually he has 2 wins but nothing since Feb 17.

[Tugger28]

Everyone knows Fielding is European level at his absolute best. Don’t blame him for taking a million plus for this, would take him 4+ fights to earn that dough.

He can still come back and earn ok money.

4+ fights? How much do you think domestic level fighters earn?

I didn’t say domestic level. He was a paper world champ....headlining shows or chief support would take him 4+ fights to earn that money...you’ve only got to look at the companies these guys set up for (ahem) tax purposes to see how much they get

[Old bones Ian]

Although not a title shot John L Gardner vs Michael Dokes was pretty brutal.

[bennie]

Although not a title shot John L Gardner vs Michael Dokes was pretty brutal.

Gardner was actually given a chance against Dokes because the American, though unbeaten, went through a spell in his career when he looked a bit 'iffy'. He was held to a draw by the cagey Ossie Ocasio and struggled to outscore the face-first Tex Cobb before suddenly hitting hard, stopping Ocasio quickly in a rematch and also blowing away Lynn Ball. Hindsight tells us that Dokes had matured and was coming into his own but hindsight comes after the event.

[littlepug]

Suppose Kirkland Laing qualifies although he didn't read the script !

[bennie]

Suppose Kirkland Laing qualifies although he didn't read the script !

You're right. Harry Mullan was up in arms about the match and people were writing into BN and saying it was going to be another Pintor-Owen. Undaunted, Mickey Duff went ahead with the fight and had worked out that Duran didn't like movers and Laing was nothing if not a great mover. However, Duff got it wrong a year later when he pitched Laing in with Fred Hutchings, so you win one, you lose one.