Povetkin Wants Whyte/Chisora Winner

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oogiebe wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 12:23 To me he's the only top contender who really fought his way to a title shot. Look at those fights since the AJ loss. And I don't even especially like Whyte.
How can you not especially like a man that has to carry around his cojones in a wheelbarrow? :D
Lackeos wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 12:38 Anyone who doesn't want to see Povetkin - Ortiz hates boxing. This fight is perfect. If not for the fact that Pulev is closely in line for another title shot, I'd say that any combination of Povetkin, Pulev, and Ortiz is absolutely perfect.
Hard to understand any boxing fan not wanting any of those fights mos' def. :TU:
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oogiebe wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 12:23
candyslim wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 12:21 I wouldn't hold your breath. Ortiz v Povetkin would be an awesome fight even now and by no means a forgone conclusion. Either against Pulev or Parker would also be very interesting.

I agree Whyte has jumped through quite enough hoops and fully deserves his title shot but the sad fact is there isn't any great clamour among UK fans to see him fight Joshua again. I'm sure this is not lost on Eddie Hearn.

I think it's a real shame the WBC didn't make him mandatory and insist on Wilder facing him. Whyte wouldn't start favourite but he'd be in with a shout and nobody can tell me he hasn't earned it.
To me he's the only top contender who really fought his way to a title shot. Look at those fights since the AJ loss. And I don't even especially like Whyte.
To me Povetkin more than earned his title shot when he got it. He's got a nice resume
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I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !
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candyslim wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !
Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault
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tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:11
candyslim wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !
Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault
True that. but to be honest, I'd have liked to have seen that fight.
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oogiebe wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:13
tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:11
candyslim wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !
Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault
True that. but to be honest, I'd have liked to have seen that fight.
I'd still like to see it. It's a good match up
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tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:16
oogiebe wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:13
tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:11

Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault
True that. but to be honest, I'd have liked to have seen that fight.
I'd still like to see it. It's a good match up
I have this sickening feeling that Whyte won't get his title shot in April. Sickening in the sense that he actually earned it, given he gets past chisora.
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oogiebe wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:17
tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:16
oogiebe wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:13
True that. but to be honest, I'd have liked to have seen that fight.
I'd still like to see it. It's a good match up
I have this sickening feeling that Whyte won't get his title shot in April. Sickening in the sense that he actually earned it, given he gets past chisora.
It's time Hearn gives him a shot. He's earned it.
People keep saying it will be easier for Joshua this time because he's improved so much.
But Whyte has improved also.
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I'm not surprised Povetkin wants the winner. I don't think the winner would go for it though.
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Noxy wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:20 I'm not surprised Povetkin wants the winner. I don't think the winner would go for it though.
No reason for Whyte to take it if he wins. Chisora wouldn't take it regardless.
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tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:11
candyslim wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !
Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault
You know what I think about that. Let's not re-hash it again. I'll just say "do you have any reason to consider the WBC to be on the level?" They are corrupt to the very core and don't always even feel the need to disguise it. The WBA are even worse which is one hell of an achievement.
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candyslim wrote: 21 Dec 2018, 02:15
tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:11
candyslim wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !
Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault
You know what I think about that. Let's not re-hash it again. I'll just say "do you have any reason to consider the WBC to be on the level?" They are corrupt to the very core and don't always even feel the need to disguise it. The WBA are even worse which is one hell of an achievement.
All alphabet groups are crooked
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All in it for what they can get out. They don't give a sh1t about boxers or boxing.
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tiny_acres wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 19:11
candyslim wrote: 20 Dec 2018, 18:47 I'm still sore about being deprived of a great fight between Povetkin and Wilder. I thought then it would be extremely competitive in the sense that it could have gone either way - I don't mean it couldn't be a brutal one-sided beat down.

Three years later I haven't changed my opinion and I shall almost certainly regret the cancellation of that fight until my time is up. F#%& the WBC !
Don't blame the WBC
Povetkin tested positive it's his fault
You should because it was obvious bias. Stiverne tested positive and still got his shot.
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lol didnt ortiz fail a test too, wilders opponents need to learn the tests better :yay:
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Povetkin v Ortiz would be a good fight and the winner would get a leg up again and be in the frame for another shot at a title
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still some people believe that Whyte would be a favourite in this fight?
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whytes beaten parker, chisora 2x, browne, and helenius all without getting a title fight, seems like he deserves one of the champs soon. povetkins another risky fight for no title
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Of course not. Just because a fighter calls you out doesn't mean you'll take the bait! C'mon!
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dagilechia wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 19:41 still some people believe that Whyte would be a favourite in this fight?
I don't know if he'd be the favorite, but I also don't know why he'd waste his time. Given the string of contenders he's beaten of late I wouldn't accept anything other than a fight with one of the Big 3 of the division next. He's earned it. Whether he can win or not, he's earned his shot.
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gilgamesh wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 19:44
dagilechia wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 19:41 still some people believe that Whyte would be a favourite in this fight?
I don't know if he'd be the favorite, but I also don't know why he'd waste his time. Given the string of contenders he's beaten of late I wouldn't accept anything other than a fight with one of the Big 3 of the division next. He's earned it. Whether he can win or not, he's earned his shot.
in fact his only good win was vs Parker and if not the fake KD in the 2nd round and if he was deducted a point for fouling it could go either way
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who else he beaten? Helenius ~top 30-40 fighter that came there only to survive, 40 years old Browne - one of the most overrated HW in recent years, he arguably lost to Chisora, and now he was losing badly again prior to the stoppage
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dagilechia wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 19:49 who else he beaten? Helenius ~top 30-40 fighter that came there only to survive, 40 years old Browne - one of the most overrated HW in recent years, he arguably lost to Chisora, and now he was losing badly again prior to the stoppage
tell me who else has done more without getting a shot
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jamamb wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 19:55
dagilechia wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 19:49 who else he beaten? Helenius ~top 30-40 fighter that came there only to survive, 40 years old Browne - one of the most overrated HW in recent years, he arguably lost to Chisora, and now he was losing badly again prior to the stoppage
tell me who else has done more without getting a shot
No one that's who. Whyte is deserving of a shot. No one else has fought his way to a shot in a long time.
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dagilechia wrote: 22 Dec 2018, 19:49 who else he beaten? Helenius ~top 30-40 fighter that came there only to survive, 40 years old Browne - one of the most overrated HW in recent years, he arguably lost to Chisora, and now he was losing badly again prior to the stoppage
No other Heavyweight contender has come even close to beating the contender or fringe contender level guys he has without getting a shot. Not Luis Ortiz, Not Miller, not nobody. He's earned his shot man.
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