Heffron vs Williams

[rhino222]

in a nutshell Hefron was:

wooden

eastern european amateur in style

going back in straight lines all the time

stood too 'square on'

slow and pondeous

guilty of having no plan B

completely outclassed

completely outgunned

not as good as his brother

guilty of his mouth writing pre-fight cheques that his boxing skills could not cash

im not sure that hes not as good as his brother, his brother got battered probably worse when he stepped up vs vassell and of course was stopped faster by williams

his brither was at least competitive v williams

[samwbr]

Williams is a solid domestic/European level fighter, step him up any higher he'll get beat handily.

[BigDoofus]

Heffron came across really badly at the pressers constantly saying he was going to knock Williams out and plaster his nose across his face. He was at it again at the weigh-in with his chavvy pals abusing Williams.
After losing every round before getting stopped he should find a particularly large rock to go and hide under.

[jamamb]

well williams certainly has it over them now with two ownages of the heffron boys

that actually makes me wonder, what other fighters have beaten a pair of brothers (or more!), i think i mightve seen trivia on that recently but forget it

[Ruthless-RKO]

well williams certainly has it over them now with two ownages of the heffron boys

that actually makes me wonder, what other fighters have beaten a pair of brothers (or more!), i think i mightve seen trivia on that recently but forget it

Byrd has 2 chances but lost to Wlad both times.

[handsofstone]

well williams certainly has it over them now with two ownages of the heffron boys

that actually makes me wonder, what other fighters have beaten a pair of brothers (or more!), i think i mightve seen trivia on that recently but forget it

Byrd has 2 chances but lost to Wlad both times.

Canelo's beat both Cotto's

[Stuarty]

well williams certainly has it over them now with two ownages of the heffron boys

that actually makes me wonder, what other fighters have beaten a pair of brothers (or more!), i think i mightve seen trivia on that recently but forget it

Byrd has 2 chances but lost to Wlad both times.

Canelo's beat both Cotto's

Good shout Baz

[handsofstone]

Byrd has 2 chances but lost to Wlad both times.

Canelo's beat both Cotto's

Good shout Baz

Cheers Stu hope your well for xmas and haven't totally skinted yourself for your brood mate

[Stuarty]

Canelo's beat both Cotto's

Good shout Baz

Cheers Stu hope your well for xmas and haven't totally skinted yourself for your brood mate

Cheers bro. Hoe you and yours have a nice time over the holidays bud.

I've not pratted myself too badly tbh mate. i only need to buy for my kids. I don't bother with the rest of my family as they don't bother with me so it's not too bad lol. You all set yourself mate?

[handsofstone]

Good shout Baz

Cheers Stu hope your well for xmas and haven't totally skinted yourself for your brood mate

Cheers bro. Hoe you and yours have a nice time over the holidays bud.

I've not pratted myself too badly tbh mate. i only need to buy for my kids. I don't bother with the rest of my family as they don't bother with me so it's not too bad lol. You all set yourself mate?

Yeh bud just about. a couple of things to pick up tomorrow and that's me mate, that's me off until after NY, ive got a bairn due in the summer so I'm going to make the most of the relaxation over the festive season

[Stuarty]

Cheers Stu hope your well for xmas and haven't totally skinted yourself for your brood mate

Cheers bro. Hoe you and yours have a nice time over the holidays bud.

I've not pratted myself too badly tbh mate. i only need to buy for my kids. I don't bother with the rest of my family as they don't bother with me so it's not too bad lol. You all set yourself mate?

Yeh bud just about. a couple of things to pick up tomorrow and that's me mate, that's me off until after NY, ive got a bairn due in the summer so I'm going to make the most of the relaxation over the festive season

Congratulations ma friend You're a glutton for punishment

[tobyh5]

Heffron was terribly basic in what he did and was not adapting. I was watching it and noticed how he was lazy with his jab - either lacking a snap with it, or bringing it back low and Williams would time it perfectly to crack him with eye-catching right hands over that lazy jab. Watch the fight again and you will notice it. All those big flush rights where over a lazy jab.

Nice win and I do like Williams but as someone has already said, I am not sure I can buy into him being beyond British level on the basis of beating a guy who proved not even that level.

[handsofstone]

Cheers bro. Hoe you and yours have a nice time over the holidays bud.

I've not pratted myself too badly tbh mate. i only need to buy for my kids. I don't bother with the rest of my family as they don't bother with me so it's not too bad lol. You all set yourself mate?

Yeh bud just about. a couple of things to pick up tomorrow and that's me mate, that's me off until after NY, ive got a bairn due in the summer so I'm going to make the most of the relaxation over the festive season

Congratulations ma friend You're a glutton for punishment

Cheers bruv I must need my effing head examined

[Stuarty]

Yeh bud just about. a couple of things to pick up tomorrow and that's me mate, that's me off until after NY, ive got a bairn due in the summer so I'm going to make the most of the relaxation over the festive season

Congratulations ma friend You're a glutton for punishment

Cheers bruv I must need my effing head examined

I can't comment mate I have 5

Thankfully the youngest is 3 and the rest can just basically get on with things themselves now. Having to do the new baby thing again would fuckin end me

[TheLeprechaun]

Heffron was terribly basic in what he did and was not adapting. I was watching it and noticed how he was lazy with his jab - either lacking a snap with it, or bringing it back low and Williams would time it perfectly to crack him with eye-catching right hands over that lazy jab. Watch the fight again and you will notice it. All those big flush rights where over a lazy jab.

Nice win and I do like Williams but as someone has already said, I am not sure I can buy into him being beyond British level on the basis of beating a guy who proved not even that level.

I was surprised Heffron was so bad. I remember reading someones post or it could have been one of those youtube boxing channels that mentioned that lazy jab but I thought Heffron looked pretty good overall. Williams proved everyone wrong and completely schooled him. It's hard to forget Williams loses to Smith though, that kind of showed his level as fringe world level. So that means Heffron is barely British level. It really wasn't a competitive fight in any respect.

[handsofstone]

Congratulations ma friend You're a glutton for punishment

Cheers bruv I must need my effing head examined

I can't comment mate I have 5

Thankfully the youngest is 3 and the rest can just basically get on with things themselves now. Having to do the new baby thing again would fuckin end me

My youngest is 12 in February so its gonna be a shock to the system man, its been a while since ive done a night feed, I'm 34 so should be more equipped to deal with it now, the older you get the less sleep you need, that's what I'm hoping anyhow mate, anyhow its been her nipping my head for another so she could feed the wee bastard

[Stuarty]

Cheers bruv I must need my effing head examined

I can't comment mate I have 5

Thankfully the youngest is 3 and the rest can just basically get on with things themselves now. Having to do the new baby thing again would fuckin end me

My youngest is 12 in February so its gonna be a shock to the system man, its been a while since ive done a night feed, I'm 34 so should be more equipped to deal with it now, the older you get the less sleep you need, that's what I'm hoping anyhow mate, anyhow its been her nipping my head for another so she could feed the wee bastard

If you've caved and gave her another wean then that should get you off buying her an Xmas present Am 34 anol mate but I feel about 44 the now

[handsofstone]

I can't comment mate I have 5

Thankfully the youngest is 3 and the rest can just basically get on with things themselves now. Having to do the new baby thing again would fuckin end me

My youngest is 12 in February so its gonna be a shock to the system man, its been a while since ive done a night feed, I'm 34 so should be more equipped to deal with it now, the older you get the less sleep you need, that's what I'm hoping anyhow mate, anyhow its been her nipping my head for another so she could feed the wee bastard

If you've caved and gave her another wean then that should get you off buying her an Xmas present Am 34 anol mate but I feel about 44 the now

Haha fvck I never thought of that mate

[TheCobra]

Heffron came across really badly at the pressers constantly saying he was going to knock Williams out and plaster his nose across his face. He was at it again at the weigh-in with his chavvy pals abusing Williams.
After losing every round before getting stopped he should find a particularly large rock to go and hide under.

Yeh I agree, I'm a Manchester lad and found myself rooting for Williams due to Heffron and his chavvy Oldham pal's antics.
He really didn't do himself any favours, came across as arrogant and cocky with a daft smirk on his face at all times.

Heffron another one guilty of believing his own hype on the way up beating lower level guys with ease with a group of chavvy mates feeding his ego, but clearly hadn't spent enough time working on his very obvious boxing flaws.

[rhino222]

Heffron came across really badly at the pressers constantly saying he was going to knock Williams out and plaster his nose across his face. He was at it again at the weigh-in with his chavvy pals abusing Williams.
After losing every round before getting stopped he should find a particularly large rock to go and hide under.

Yeh I agree, I'm a Manchester lad and found myself rooting for Williams due to Heffron and his chavvy Oldham pal's antics.
He really didn't do himself any favours, came across as arrogant and cocky with a daft smirk on his face at all times.

Heffron another one guilty of believing his own hype on the way up beating lower level guys with ease with a group of chavvy mates feeding his ego, but clearly hadn't spent enough time working on his very obvious boxing flaws.

there will be less chavvy mates now...........they will disperse along with the unbeaten record and the 'beast' tag.

[southpawn]

The hype train met the freight train. Heffron is not good, but he'd have beaten another domestic level prospect.

Williams is the most underrated boxer in the sport. He's the total package. In time those Smith losses will be seen as flukes. Williams is WORLD CLASS. Mark my words.

[TheLeprechaun]

The hype train met the freight train. Heffron is not good, but he'd have beaten another domestic level prospect.

Williams is the most underrated boxer in the sport. He's the total package. In time those Smith losses will be seen as flukes. Williams is WORLD CLASS. Mark my words.

I don't think we can overlook the smith fights. They showed his level. He was in against a novice here really. Heffron didn't perform to a high level at all. Hopefully heffron learns and comes back. Would have liked to see him survive to the final bell as getting stopped like that can take something out of a fighter. He struck me as someone who would benefit from Adam booth. Add in more feints and movement. He just kept following William's around and getting countered. His punches had no snap although he was countering to the body with the left hook nicely.

[Andrew]

The hype train met the freight train. Heffron is not good, but he'd have beaten another domestic level prospect.

Williams is the most underrated boxer in the sport. He's the total package. In time those Smith losses will be seen as flukes. Williams is WORLD CLASS. Mark my words.

I don't think we can overlook the smith fights. They showed his level. He was in against a novice here really. Heffron didn't perform to a high level at all. Hopefully heffron learns and comes back. Would have liked to see him survive to the final bell as getting stopped like that can take something out of a fighter. He struck me as someone who would benefit from Adam booth. Add in more feints and movement. He just kept following William's around and getting countered. His punches had no snap although he was countering to the body with the left hook nicely.

Williams beat Smith in that first fight. I don't care what anyone says, the refereeing was absolutely disgusting. The second fight was close.

That being said he isn't world class

[jamamb]

ya he was winning the first fight handily for me, even if smith was coming on smith wouldve had to win all the remaining rounds to get a draw on my card. second fight was close. they are very similar in level

not saying williams is world class but defo feel he has the ability to do well on the euro scene

[BigDoofus]

Billy Joe Saunders looked awful, teamed up with Ingle and looked the business. It will be interesting watching if Williams can progress. With his promoter he can't be far off WBO no.1