When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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oogiebe wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 13:12
greg wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 13:10 ..seems like he impressed with some of his losses more that with the most of his wins..
...and that spells Journeyman. I hope delboy becomes a gatekeeper for the young bucks coming up.
I was chastised and ridiculed for calling him a journeyman a few months ago
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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tiny_acres wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 17:26
oogiebe wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 13:12
greg wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 13:10 ..seems like he impressed with some of his losses more that with the most of his wins..
...and that spells Journeyman. I hope delboy becomes a gatekeeper for the young bucks coming up.
I was chastised and ridiculed for calling him a journeyman a few months ago
...but that is exactly what he is...
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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clopixolacuphase wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 13:49 Peak Del: 2011-2013.

I always thought Fran kWarren must have hated Chisora: he threw him to the lions so early, signing him to fight prime Wladimir very early in his career when he was nowhere near ready. Wlad then jerked him around pulling out twice before finally signing to fight Haye. This is why Chisora came in to fight his big domestic rival Tyson Fury in such dreadful shape the first time, with tits and everything. If he hadn't been so disheartened by the Wlad pullouts, he might have come in in better shape, but I can't call that his prime because he looked such a mess.
You mean Vitali.. I don’t think he was thrown in the deep end too quick. He progressed quickly.. beat all the Domestic fighters. Had an opportunity and took it. To date, it’s his only world title fight. He was at his best then.

He chose when to be at his peak.
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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Lennox wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 13:38 He will probably end up with a record of something like 33-17.

He is only 34 so could easy have another dozen fights. Dereck has done pretty well financially as he is exciting to watch and very likeable, so I think the trend will continue, tough fights and gatekeeper.
Yeh. Can imagine him another Danny Williams...
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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He's as good as he's ever been. I don't think he's had a particular 'prime' period.
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Dec 2018, 08:06
clopixolacuphase wrote: 24 Dec 2018, 13:49 Peak Del: 2011-2013.

I always thought Fran kWarren must have hated Chisora: he threw him to the lions so early, signing him to fight prime Wladimir very early in his career when he was nowhere near ready. Wlad then jerked him around pulling out twice before finally signing to fight Haye. This is why Chisora came in to fight his big domestic rival Tyson Fury in such dreadful shape the first time, with tits and everything. If he hadn't been so disheartened by the Wlad pullouts, he might have come in in better shape, but I can't call that his prime because he looked such a mess.
You mean Vitali.
No I don’t
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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He was in his prime when he was an armed robber in Zimbabwe.
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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A typical fighter's prime is usually from age 27 to 35. But Dereck Chisora was at his best during the exact second that he fought Carlos Takam, during which time he was 34. He also had a good run in 2014, and he also posted a solid performance against Whyte in 2016. Even his performance against Vitali in 2012 was solid. But his fight with Helenius was tainted due to Helenius having a shoulder injury.

I'd say roughly 2012 to present or 2013 to present. The earliest that you should place him in his prime if you're going broad would be 2011 around the Helenius fight.
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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It was when he fought takam
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Re: When was Dereck Chisora in his prime?

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Lackeos wrote: 26 Dec 2018, 04:26 A typical fighter's prime is usually from age 27 to 35. But Dereck Chisora was at his best during the exact second that he fought Carlos Takam, during which time he was 34. He also had a good run in 2014, and he also posted a solid performance against Whyte in 2016. Even his performance against Vitali in 2012 was solid. But his fight with Helenius was tainted due to Helenius having a shoulder injury.

I'd say roughly 2012 to present or 2013 to present. The earliest that you should place him in his prime if you're going broad would be 2011 around the Helenius fight.
His fight with Heneius is tainted because he got horrifically robbed. Helenius ‘won’ remember?
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