I told you about Collazo - Am I a boxing genius?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 14 May 2006, 04:59

I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.

BigEars · Post by **BigEars** » 14 May 2006, 05:29

I scored it 116-112 for Hatton (the most anyone could possibly score it for him) , but scores of 115-112 or 114-113 would be just as acceptable .

Ledderman scored one round for Collazo which Merchant gave to Hatton , I can't remember the round but I did the same . I believe I also scored the 10th even , so that's how I came up with my score .

Collazo wasn't robbed but put up a great fight and was defiently seriously underated . I feel Hatton's victory of him will look better over time as Collazo will beat some very good fighters(if he gets the fights against them).

But if the bout had been scored for Collazo , that would have been a robbery . In truth it was a close Hatton win .

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 14 May 2006, 05:46

I picked Collazo UD and £100 at 100/30

Close decision, it looks like Hatton did just enough, but he got his face pretty busted up in the process.

I think Mayweather, whilst not as strong as Ricky, would bust his face up and force a stoppage in about 9 rounds.

Cotto - hatton would be a pretty even fight a 50/50 fight but i'd give Hatton the slight edge.

As for Margarito I reckon he would knock Ricky out.

hatton is better off back at 140.

don't call it a comeback · Post by **don't call it a comeback** » 14 May 2006, 06:42

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.

Well, fair play Collazo proved to be a very good fighter tonight but he wasn't robbed. I had Hatton by 2 but Collazo had some very strong moments. I expect Collazo to come back and win another world title.

I don't know about your judgement being vindicated but Billy Graham's certainly was. He never wanted Collazo. Combination of first big US fight, new weight, tough southpaw - all a bit too much to load on to one night. One would be fine, two just about ok but on the night all three seemed to have an impact. Fair play to him, a lot of fighters might have started to come apart around the 6th round when his problems were laid bare but Hatton once again showed huge heart - and in the final round when took some huge shot.

Right now I'd like to see Ricky go back down to 140 and fight Cotto. I think Ricky is the best light welter in the world and could be one of the best ever at 140 and I'd like to see him prove it cos his welterweight debut was certainly a struggle.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 14 May 2006, 06:50

i found all the pro hatton predictions a bit odd, as they were emphatically hatton predictions. i did think hatton would be able to do a fair bit more of what he did in the first four rds...a lot of our worries about hatton did seemed to be magnified by collazo on the night, particularly the right hook, and the fact that he wasn't even the stronger man...however, if you want to be a true genius, you must learn how to spell the word!

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 14 May 2006, 06:53

viciousmaussa wrote:however, if you want to be a true genius, you must learn how to spell the word!

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 14 May 2006, 08:00

talk about sucking your own knob. 8)

Achybreaky · Post by **Achybreaky** » 14 May 2006, 08:09

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.

How does hatton getting a UD when you picked collazo to get a UD make you boxing genius? its exactly the opposite!!!

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 14 May 2006, 08:12

achybreaky wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.
How does hatton getting a UD when you picked collazo to get a UD make you boxing genius? its exactly the opposite!!!

Collazo should have gotten a UD.

Achybreaky · Post by **Achybreaky** » 14 May 2006, 08:18

lirva33 wrote:
achybreaky wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.
How does hatton getting a UD when you picked collazo to get a UD make you boxing genius? its exactly the opposite!!!
Collazo should have gotten a UD.

But he didnt.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 14 May 2006, 08:19

achybreaky wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.
How does hatton getting a UD when you picked collazo to get a UD make you boxing genius? its exactly the opposite!!!

Because 50% of fans seem to have had it for Collazo and everyone said Collazo was going to get dominated and ko'd - look at everyones predictions.

Achybreaky · Post by **Achybreaky** » 14 May 2006, 08:22

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
achybreaky wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.
How does hatton getting a UD when you picked collazo to get a UD make you boxing genius? its exactly the opposite!!!
Because 50% of fans seem to have had it for Collazo and everyone said Collazo was going to get dominated and ko'd - look at everyones predictions.

I would rather look at the facts and the judges scorecards and they read hatton UD, the predictions have no bearing on the actual result of the fight.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 14 May 2006, 08:24

achybreaky wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
achybreaky wrote: How does hatton getting a UD when you picked collazo to get a UD make you boxing genius? its exactly the opposite!!!
Because 50% of fans seem to have had it for Collazo and everyone said Collazo was going to get dominated and ko'd - look at everyones predictions.
I would rather look at the facts and the judges scorecards and they read hatton UD, the predictions have no bearing on the actual result of the fight.

yes i agree. the first holyfield lewis fight was clearly a draw because the judges had it that way.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 14 May 2006, 18:46

Not a genuis but you were right, Callazo is underated and improved since tha t loss SN were showing of his.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 14 May 2006, 19:21

Max Molyneux wrote:Not a genuis but you were right, Callazo is underated and improved since tha t loss SN were showing of his.

The guy he lost too, Cassiani wasn't too bad himself and had some serious power. He went onto lose to Quintana whos fighting Diaz for the right to be top prospect at 147. Collazo will go on top be a top player at 147 imo.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 14 May 2006, 19:49

I agree.

Never thought Callazo was that good until last night.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 15 May 2006, 00:59

No actually over 60% thought Hatton won, with 10% for draw, and this was on Current Scene.

I don't see how anyone could possibly cry robbery, it was a close fight, but Collazo didn't do enough. Here are compubox stats and something I put together myself ;)

http://img19. .us/img19/714/total3jl.jpg

http://img204. .us/img204/7033/power4zo.jpg

http://img117. .us/img117/2418/homerun2yc.gif

Homerun!!!

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 15 May 2006, 02:03

lirva33 wrote:
achybreaky wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: Because 50% of fans seem to have had it for Collazo and everyone said Collazo was going to get dominated and ko'd - look at everyones predictions.
I would rather look at the facts and the judges scorecards and they read hatton UD, the predictions have no bearing on the actual result of the fight.
yes i agree. the first holyfield lewis fight was clearly a draw because the judges had it that way.

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 15 May 2006, 02:06

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.

BIG UPS TO YOU!! you did call it, mate

i distinctly remember you going against the grain with your warning...i really hope collazo gets a well-deserved rematch!! props to ricky if he gives it to him sooner rather than later!!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 15 May 2006, 05:35

lvlarc_uk wrote:No actually over 60% thought Hatton won, with 10% for draw, and this was on Current Scene.

I don't see how anyone could possibly cry robbery, it was a close fight, but Collazo didn't do enough. Here are compubox stats and something I put together myself ;)

http://img19. .us/img19/714/total3jl.jpg

http://img204. .us/img204/7033/power4zo.jpg

http://img117. .us/img117/2418/homerun2yc.gif

Homerun!!!

Anyone who cries robbery should go to ESB.

They should complain more about the Pereira fight when Aiken was faking his pain.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 15 May 2006, 07:45

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.

Are you that Cash off ESB?

He said the same as you.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 15 May 2006, 07:52

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.

I think you'll find on the prediction thread that I picked Hatton by close unanimous decision after suffering some troublesome moments - was that not a better and more accurate prediction than what you offered?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 15 May 2006, 08:29

Max Molyneux wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I told you all about Collazo when I picked a Collazo UD on predictions. I now feel (with everyone saying Collazo was robbed) that I'm a boxing genious (despite usually been wrong I'll jump on my moment here). I think COllazo may be tougher to beat in some respects than PBF with that huge reach, height alongside his speed and southpaw style.

I didn't see the fight myself but allot of people are saying Collazo won so do you think there'll be a rematch? I think they'll be looking to the Baldomir-Gatti winner, although that would be pretty synical.

I hope Collazo gets another top level fight if it isn't a Hatton re-match. Margarito-Collazo would be good or maybe if RH vacates he can fight Ukral for the vacant belt.
Are you that Cash off ESB?

He said the same as you.

No I'm British, he blindly supports anyone from brooklyn (where hes from)

Didn't really mean I was genius just felt justified in picking Collazo to give Hatton hell.

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