The fair percentage splits, Joshua vs. Wilder ?

[marvelous marv]

If an offer as high as 60-40 came down the fight would be signed tomorrow.

[candyslim]

Wilder isn't complaining about being low-balled is he? When even his fans, some now former fans if YouTube is anything to go by, are accusing him of ducking Joshua, wouldn't you expect his defence to be "Their offer is bullsh1t" especially if it was (BS)?

[oogiebe]

Wilder wants the Fury rematch first, feeling as if he somehow figured out he Gypsy King the back half of the first fight. That said, any bout with AJ (be it fury or wilder) will have rematch clause. So whatever the split is the first fight, make it equal and opposite for the second fight. Just get on with it already! SHEESH!!

[tiny_acres]

Wilder isn't complaining about being low-balled is he? When even his fans, some now former fans if YouTube is anything to go by, are accusing him of ducking Joshua, wouldn't you expect his defence to be "Their offer is bullsh1t" especially if it was (BS)?

A flat fee is bullshlt
I don't care what they agree on I just want to see 1 winner come out of Joshua, Fury and Wilder. That's all I want.
No speculation on who's the best but 100% proof

[oogiebe]

Wilder isn't complaining about being low-balled is he? When even his fans, some now former fans if YouTube is anything to go by, are accusing him of ducking Joshua, wouldn't you expect his defence to be "Their offer is bullsh1t" especially if it was (BS)?

A flat fee is bullshlt
I don't care what they agree on I just want to see 1 winner come out of Joshua, Fury and Wilder. That's all I want.
No speculation on who's the best but 100% proof

Amen Brother!

[candyslim]

The original offer was a flat $12.5m which was later increased to a flat 15. The most recent offer was a percentage split but I can't tell you what percentage because Eddie's not saying but it would have to be an improvement on the previous offer. My guess would be there is a guaranteed minimum as part of the percentage offer

Did Wilder make more from fighting Fury than he would have got for taking the guaranteed 12.5 flat? Maybe he did I don't know.

What I do know is Wilder is talking unfinished business, he is not (as far as I know) talking shitty offer from Hearn which I find surprising given the criticism he's facing. Surely he realizes the rematch with Fury will be the biggest show in boxing if Deontay is defending the undisputed crown.

One name, one face, one champion, isn't that the mantra?

[marvelous marv]

The percentage split offered was below 30 percent. Joseph Parker got 33 percent by the way. Matchroom doesn't want it.

[candyslim]

Where did you see that?

[oogiebe]

I think that 30% offer was either fake news or very old and before Fury/Wilder was made.

[candyslim]

I think both parties are keeping schtum about the financial details. According to Hearn that was a condition imposed by Shelly Finkel in order that team Wilder would agree to resume talks.

Of course Hearn is a promoter so I don't take what he says as gospel. I guess if it were true it might explain Wilder not commenting about offers, there again do we know if the two sides have resumed talks? It would seem a bit pointless given that Wilder has made it clear he doesn't want to fight Joshua he wants Fury again, and I get the impression it doesn't matter what percentage is on the table.

[oogiebe]

I think both parties are keeping schtum about the financial details. According to Hearn that was a condition imposed by Shelly Finkel in order that team Wilder would agree to resume talks.

Of course Hearn is a promoter so I don't take what he says as gospel. I guess if it were true it might explain Wilder not commenting about offers, there again do we know if the two sides have resumed talks? It would seem a bit pointless given that Wilder has made it clear he doesn't want to fight Joshua he wants Fury again, and I get the impression it doesn't matter what percentage is on the table.

If Wilder beats fury in the rematch he carries not only the WBC belt, but he can make claim to the lineal title, which would give him more leverage in negotiations with AJ. (same for Fury, obviously)

[candyslim]

I hear you but he first has to beat Fury. He didn't do it last time and you have to expect Fury will be better having honed his blade on a world champion last time out as opposed to a piano-shifter.

Lose to the Gypsy King Deontay my son, and you know what happens to your unification don't you ? ...

[oogiebe]

I hear you but he first has to beat Fury. He didn't do it last time and you have to expect Fury will be better having honed his blade on a world champion last time out as opposed to a piano-shifter.

Lose to the Gypsy King Deontay my son, and you know what happens to your unification don't you ? ...

Yup...like I posted, Same for Fury if he wins/loses. The fight between Fury/Wilder vs AJ is the what I'm looking forward to. An interim fight AJ v. Wilder leaves too many questions unanswered, especially if Wilder would win that contest.

[candyslim]

No can't agree. Unification first, second and third priority. Fury had his chance and tbf it sounds like he acknowledges that he should defer and await the winner.

[oogiebe]

No can't agree. Unification first, second and third priority. Fury had his chance and tbf it sounds like he acknowledges that he should defer and await the winner.

Fair enough. We agree to disagree. Unification would be first in my book too had it not been for the controversy. Either way all three need to fight each other at some point.

[candyslim]

Now that we can agree on

[jamamb]

we already saw fury vs wilder and wilder vs aj is a much more mouth watering fight in terms of how they match up . no way would i want to see fury vs wilder again instead of wilder vs aj

[Enlightened-One]

Deontay Wilder doesn’t “HAVE” to do anything. The WBC will inevitably allow him to do whatever he WANTS, but the American will almost certainly be compelled to make a business decision, which means he may potentially go down the route of the highest bidding opponent.

Fight fans might demand whatever they want, but their pleas will inevitably fall on deaf ears. Wilder will choose the option that is the most financially beneficial to him in the long-run – he’s not obliged to do anything else.

Deontay Wilder currently has three options, accept a $1.5m payday and perform a mandatory defence of his title against Dominic Breazeale, engage in a rematch against Tyson Fury or travel to the UK and accept the title unification super-fight against Anthony Joshua.

Eddie Hearn wants Wilder to face AJ right now, because if Tyson Fury beats the American in the rematch, Anthony would only have one super-fight to take, instead of two. Joshua probably doesn’t want to face ‘The Gypsy King’ beforehand, because he represents a bigger risk than Wilder does.

Tyson Fury wants to engage in a rematch with Wilder on UK soil, because he knows that, regardless how well he performs, it’s going to be incredibly difficult for him to gain a decision victory in America. ‘The Gypsy King’ may be reluctant to face ‘The Bronze Bomber’ again unless the bout is staged in the UK, which means the rematch might not happen during 2019.

I really can’t help thinking that the most lucrative option for Wilder to take would be to face AJ next, because he could risk losing (not only his commercial worth but) his WBC title if he engages in an immediate rematch against Tyson Fury, which would be a particularly high-risk manoeuvre.

We need to remember that promoters like to build interest in bouts, by making fight fans wait and allowing them to “marinate”, in order to make the event far more lucrative. So as frustrating as this may seem, the most likely choice for Wilder would be to face Dominic Breazeale next, which will be a relatively easy low-risk mandatory title defence.

Going back on topic, I suspect that Eddie Hearn may be able to persuade Wilder to take the AJ bout by offering in the region of between 30% to 35%. In my mind, 40% seems far too generous considering that Deontay doesn’t bring much to the table financially.

Meanwhile, Eddie Hearn seems intent on offering a flat-fee to Wilder and I doubt the American would accept terms like that.