Dmitry Bivol vs. Joe Smith Jr. - March 9, 2019

[Ruthless-RKO]

I had him beating Jack close but clear. I don't think Jack deserved a draw there.

I had Adonis winning too. Doesn’t mean he actually won the fight. It was close but by no means a clear close win for either. One dominated in the first half, the other in the second half.

Fact is. The bout the a draw.

[Mexi-Box]

Gvozdyk stopped Stevenson who wasn't undefeated, last I looked. In fact, he's never stopped an undefeated opponent.

Yeah, because a defeat a long time ago, avenged, certainly means something . As I said, this forum is notoriously clueless. Stevenson was an undefeated champion at LHW and had been for years. I think even an ant could understand that.

Um, you said (see bold) Undefeated lineal Titlist. Now you say his one defeat doesn't count because it was "a long time ago?" These are your words. You are either full of shvt or an absolute moron as you continually try to call out others with asinine posts such as these.

They are my words. You are obviously clueless about the nature of boxing and records. We can count early defeats, but they generally aren't counted to mean anything. There was a forum post making fun of idiots like yourself where we called guys legends because they defeated a HoF or ATG extremely early in their careers.

And I'm not worng in the end. Stevenson has been undefeated for years at LHW.

I don't call out posters for things like this. I'm too educated on this sport to look at something so trivial, and think I can one-up someone by correcting them when I know exactly what they mean. You're definitely one of the most clueless posters on this board, and worse yet, you are one of the most stubborn. Take time to educate yourself before you come at me.

[oogiebe]

Yeah, because a defeat a long time ago, avenged, certainly means something . As I said, this forum is notoriously clueless. Stevenson was an undefeated champion at LHW and had been for years. I think even an ant could understand that.

Um, you said (see bold) Undefeated lineal Titlist. Now you say his one defeat doesn't count because it was "a long time ago?" These are your words. You are either full of shvt or an absolute moron as you continually try to call out others with asinine posts such as these.

They are my words. You are obviously clueless about the nature of boxing and records. We can count early defeats, but they generally aren't counted to mean anything. There was a forum post making fun of idiots like yourself where we called guys legends because they defeated a HoF or ATG extremely early in their careers.

And I'm not worng in the end. Stevenson has been undefeated for years at LHW.

I don't call out posters for things like this. I'm too educated on this sport to look at something so trivial, and think I can one-up someone by correcting them when I know exactly what they mean. You're definitely one of the most clueless posters on this board, and worse yet, you are one of the most stubborn. Take time to educate yourself before you come at me.

[Mexi-Box]

I had him beating Jack close but clear. I don't think Jack deserved a draw there.

I had Adonis winning too. Doesn’t mean he actually won the fight. It was close but by no means a clear close win for either. One dominated in the first half, the other in the second half.

Fact is. The bout the a draw.

Not really a fact. It's a fact that 3 judges saw that fight in that fashion, but going by this logic, it'd be like saying it's a fact that Brandon Rios beat Richard Abril or Wilder drew with Fury.

[Mexi-Box]

Um, you said (see bold) Undefeated lineal Titlist. Now you say his one defeat doesn't count because it was "a long time ago?" These are your words. You are either full of shvt or an absolute moron as you continually try to call out others with asinine posts such as these.

They are my words. You are obviously clueless about the nature of boxing and records. We can count early defeats, but they generally aren't counted to mean anything. There was a forum post making fun of idiots like yourself where we called guys legends because they defeated a HoF or ATG extremely early in their careers.

And I'm not worng in the end. Stevenson has been undefeated for years at LHW.

I don't call out posters for things like this. I'm too educated on this sport to look at something so trivial, and think I can one-up someone by correcting them when I know exactly what they mean. You're definitely one of the most clueless posters on this board, and worse yet, you are one of the most stubborn. Take time to educate yourself before you come at me.

Exactly what I thought.

How about arguing my point next time. Maybe I'll be a lot nicer if you can come at me from a rational perspective.

[oogiebe]

They are my words. You are obviously clueless about the nature of boxing and records. We can count early defeats, but they generally aren't counted to mean anything. There was a forum post making fun of idiots like yourself where we called guys legends because they defeated a HoF or ATG extremely early in their careers.

And I'm not worng in the end. Stevenson has been undefeated for years at LHW.

I don't call out posters for things like this. I'm too educated on this sport to look at something so trivial, and think I can one-up someone by correcting them when I know exactly what they mean. You're definitely one of the most clueless posters on this board, and worse yet, you are one of the most stubborn. Take time to educate yourself before you come at me.

Exactly what I thought.

How about arguing my point next time. Maybe I'll be a lot nicer if you can come at me from a rational perspective.

LMAO! Aren't you the same idiot who had Bogdan Dinu as a top prospect? I'm comforted that someone so "educated on this sport" thinks I'm clueless. "Dangerous Power." "taking the division by storm." Now go home and get your shinebox!

[Mexi-Box]

Exactly what I thought.

How about arguing my point next time. Maybe I'll be a lot nicer if you can come at me from a rational perspective.

LMAO! Aren't you the same idiot who had Bogdan Dinu as a top prospect? I'm comforted that someone so "educated on this sport" thinks I'm clueless. "Dangerous Power." "taking the division by storm." Now go home and get your shinebox!

Again, exactly what I thought. No argument. I bet you cried as you typed this. I've never seen someone so shook before that they write like a blathering idiot, child. I left you looking like a moron now how about you let it go and stop responding unless you have something reasonable to offer, which is likely never going to happen.

[oogiebe]

Exactly what I thought.

How about arguing my point next time. Maybe I'll be a lot nicer if you can come at me from a rational perspective.

LMAO! Aren't you the same idiot who had Bogdan Dinu as a top prospect? I'm comforted that someone so "educated on this sport" thinks I'm clueless. "Dangerous Power." "taking the division by storm." Now go home and get your shinebox!

Again, exactly what I thought. No argument. I bet you cried as you typed this. I've never seen someone so shook before that they write like a blathering idiot, child. I left you looking like a moron now how about you let it go and stop responding unless you have something reasonable to offer, which is likely never going to happen.

OMG...you are hilarious! You are so predictable it's too easy. You insult and I push back with your own ridiculous quotes. Oh, you are frightful! Explain Helenius having "dangerous power." or Gvozdyk "taking the division by storm." Yeah...just as I expected. Bogdan Dinu!

[Mexi-Box]

LMAO! Aren't you the same idiot who had Bogdan Dinu as a top prospect? I'm comforted that someone so "educated on this sport" thinks I'm clueless. "Dangerous Power." "taking the division by storm." Now go home and get your shinebox!

Again, exactly what I thought. No argument. I bet you cried as you typed this. I've never seen someone so shook before that they write like a blathering idiot, child. I left you looking like a moron now how about you let it go and stop responding unless you have something reasonable to offer, which is likely never going to happen.

OMG...you are hilarious! You are so predictable it's too easy. You insult and I push back with your own ridiculous quotes. Oh, you are frightful! Explain Helenius having "dangerous power." or Gvozdyk "taking the division by storm." Yeah...just as I expected. Bogdan Dinu!

Are you so stupid or can't read? I've already defended my position for all three. That's what this is all about? Go to those threads and read my posts (if you can still read). OMFG, you just threw yourself under the bus!

Not only are you so ignorant, you can't read. I'll stop now for the sake of this thread. If you want to keep going with your idiocy, just do it in a pm so you won't have to embarrass yourself anymore.

[oogiebe]

Again, exactly what I thought. No argument. I bet you cried as you typed this. I've never seen someone so shook before that they write like a blathering idiot, child. I left you looking like a moron now how about you let it go and stop responding unless you have something reasonable to offer, which is likely never going to happen.

OMG...you are hilarious! You are so predictable it's too easy. You insult and I push back with your own ridiculous quotes. Oh, you are frightful! Explain Helenius having "dangerous power." or Gvozdyk "taking the division by storm." Yeah...just as I expected. Bogdan Dinu!

Are you so stupid or can't read? I've already defended my position for all three. That's what this is all about? Go to those threads and read my posts (if you can still read). OMFG, you just threw yourself under the bus!

Not only are you so ignorant, you can't read. I'll stop now for the sake of this thread. If you want to keep going with your idiocy, just do it in a pm so you won't have to embarrass yourself anymore.

Why in the world would I want to read those silly posts again? You defended nothing. You never do. You are best at picking apart other posters and adding little or no value yourself. I'm done here. Time for your nap, little man. Ciao! Thanks for the laughs.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I had him beating Jack close but clear. I don't think Jack deserved a draw there.

I had Adonis winning too. Doesn’t mean he actually won the fight. It was close but by no means a clear close win for either. One dominated in the first half, the other in the second half.

Fact is. The bout the a draw.

Not really a fact. It's a fact that 3 judges saw that fight in that fashion, but going by this logic, it'd be like saying it's a fact that Brandon Rios beat Richard Abril or Wilder drew with Fury.

It will always be a draw in the books though. The three judges it what counts.

One judge had Jack ahead. The other two had it a draw.

Everyone else’s cards are irrelevant.

[Ruthless-RKO]

TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW PRICED FROM $49 VIA TICKETMASTER.COM

Further fights on the undercard will be announced soon.

[boxing_rocks]

Bivol is sparring with Benavidez:

[Ruthless-RKO]

Johnson and Monaghan clash on a huge bill in upstate New York led by a World title double-header in the shape of Bivol’s clash with Smith Jr and Maurice Hooker puts his WBO Junior-Welterweight title against unbeaten challenger Mikkel LesPierre. Ohio talent Otha Jones III makes his pro debut on the card, with more undercard action to be announced.

[ElJefe]

Bivol is sparring with Benavidez:

I wonder if Bivol could make 168. He definitely doesn't look a division bigger than Benavidez.

[KiwiRider]

i d loved to see joe smith bang him out which is only way he can win . i rate bivol the best light heavey weight bar ward in the divison ,i can see him make joe look wild and amture ,

He'll out work Smith and wear him down and perhaps take him out late.

Dunno about being taken out.
Joe is a tough cookie. Don't forget he fought 6 rounds against Barrera with a broken jaw. Didn't quit, didn't moan, just.kept on trying. I'm not saying Joe is going to win, both Sean and Joe are going to lose on the night. Except I don't think Joe will be stopped.

[brilo33]

i d loved to see joe smith bang him out which is only way he can win . i rate bivol the best light heavey weight bar ward in the divison ,i can see him make joe look wild and amture ,

He'll out work Smith and wear him down and perhaps take him out late.

Dunno about being taken out.
Joe is a tough cookie. Don't forget he fought 6 rounds against Barrera with a broken jaw. Didn't quit, didn't moan, just.kept on trying. I'm not saying Joe is going to win, both Sean and Joe are going to lose on the night. Except I don't think Joe will be stopped.

no doubt kiwi joes a tought boy, i just think joe will go for it , which could leave him open for a clean shot . but thats what i like about the joe he has a world title shot , and i think there is no doubt in his mind if he lands a big shot he could be champ ,gwan the irish bomber

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Many going for a Bivol stoppage then

[Ruthless-RKO]

I’ve opened the poll so anyone can revote

[boxing_rocks]

Bivol is sparring with Benavidez:

I wonder if Bivol could make 168. He definitely doesn't look a division bigger than Benavidez.

He is willing to fight Smith and Canelo at 168.

[ElJefe]

Bivol is sparring with Benavidez:

I wonder if Bivol could make 168. He definitely doesn't look a division bigger than Benavidez.

He is willing to fight Smith and Canelo at 168.

He's probably too big a risk with relatively little reward for Canelo to go to 168 for. Smith vs Bivol would be great though.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Russia’s Bivol, 28, officially weighed 173½ pounds for their 175-pound championship match. The 29-year-old Smith, of Mastic, New York, was slightly lighter than Bivol (173 pounds).

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Stats & Stakes

Dmitry Bivol
Age: 28
Title: WBA light heavyweight (2017-Present, 6 Defenses)
Previous Titles: None
Height: 6’1
Weight: 173 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Saint Petersburg, Russia
Record: 15-0, 11 KO
Press Rankings: #1 (TBRB), #3 (Ring, ESPN, Boxing Monthly, BoxRec)
Record in Major Title Fights: 4-0, 2 KO (7-0, 4 KO including interim title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 128-14-3 (.893)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Jean Pascal UD12

vs.

Joe Smith Jr.
Age: 29
Title/Previous Titles: None
Height: 6’
Weight: 173 lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Long Island, New York
Record: 24-2, 20 KO, 1 KOBY
Press Rankings: #8 (TBRB), #9 (Ring, ESPN, Boxing Monthly)
Record in Major Title Fights:1stTitle Opportunity
Last Five Opponents: 123-19-5 (.854)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: Bernard Hopkins KO8