Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - OFF

Who wins?

Poll ended at 23 Apr 2019, 14:58

Pulev - Decision
26
68%
Pulev - K/TKO
7
18%
DRAW
1
3%
Helenius - K/TKO
4
11%
Helenius - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 38

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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 06:57
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Jan 2019, 11:18
SoulSavior28 wrote: 19 Jan 2019, 04:53 Pulev knocks out Helenius, I Personally think Helenius is not that good, he proved that against Duhaupas, Whyte beat heam easily and Chisora was robbed against him...
Helenius has a decent chin. Pulev’s main attribute is jab. He’ll out-box him over 12 rounds. Can’t see a KD.. maybe a rtd.
Agreed, brutally dull distance fight.
Has Pulev ever been on an exciting fight that he won?
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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If Pulev lose the fight, does he lose the mandatory to AJ?
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 07:28
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 06:57
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Jan 2019, 11:18
SoulSavior28 wrote: 19 Jan 2019, 04:53 Pulev knocks out Helenius, I Personally think Helenius is not that good, he proved that against Duhaupas, Whyte beat heam easily and Chisora was robbed against him...
Helenius has a decent chin. Pulev’s main attribute is jab. He’ll out-box him over 12 rounds. Can’t see a KD.. maybe a rtd.
Agreed, brutally dull distance fight.
Has Pulev ever been on an exciting fight that he won?
He's never been in a decent fight.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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That really depends on how you define 'a good fight'. Does a good fight have to be both competitive and exciting or can it be competitive or exciting ?

His challenge against Klitschko was possibly Wlad's most impressive display. It was a one sided beat-down but I think most would have to acknowledge it was the most action-packed fight of Pulev's career, and anything but boring, but whether you could call it 'a good fight' depends on who you ask.

@Ruthless: Not exciting, no (as far as I know anyway). Interesting, maybe even intriguing, but Kubrat doesn't really do exciting.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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pulev has a jab and grab heavy style with little power (at least wlad could ktfo a muthaf@ucka), thats a recipe for non entertainment
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Looks like this fight won't happen. Helenius refused the fight.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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candyslim wrote: 04 Feb 2019, 09:49 That really depends on how you define 'a good fight'. Does a good fight have to be both competitive and exciting or can it be competitive or exciting ?

His challenge against Klitschko was possibly Wlad's most impressive display. It was a one sided beat-down but I think most would have to acknowledge it was the most action-packed fight of Pulev's career, and anything but boring, but whether you could call it 'a good fight' depends on who you ask.

@Ruthless: Not exciting, no (as far as I know anyway). Interesting, maybe even intriguing, but Kubrat doesn't really do exciting.
It was much more one sided than I remembered it in my admittedly biased memory.

:(



Pulev wasn't scared and tried his best. Unfortunately Wlad found his defense - what defense? - which consisted of just standing in front of Wlad at Wlad's ideal punching range with his arms wide apart very nice. I think that Pulev has learned a few things since then.
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oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 11:57 Looks like this fight won't happen. Helenius refused the fight.

Link?
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 12:39
oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 11:57 Looks like this fight won't happen. Helenius refused the fight.

Link?
It's a bad translation but here's one.
https://tech2.org/bulgaria/kubrat-pulev ... -helenius/
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oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 12:42
Ilya Muromets wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 12:39
oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 11:57 Looks like this fight won't happen. Helenius refused the fight.

Link?
It's a bad translation but here's one.
https://tech2.org/bulgaria/kubrat-pulev ... -helenius/

"The Swedish Finnish passport refused to go to the Los Angeles gang on March 23, when the next meeting of the Bulgarian is scheduled, reports the headquarters of Cobras."

What does that say, they won't give Helenius a passport to the US? Then hold the fight in Europe!
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 12:47
oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 12:42
Ilya Muromets wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 12:39
oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 11:57 Looks like this fight won't happen. Helenius refused the fight.

Link?
It's a bad translation but here's one.
https://tech2.org/bulgaria/kubrat-pulev ... -helenius/

"The Swedish Finnish passport refused to go to the Los Angeles gang on March 23, when the next meeting of the Bulgarian is scheduled, reports the headquarters of Cobras."

What does that say, they won't give Helenius a passport to the US? Then hold the fight in Europe!
I know! Translation is very poor. Here is a youtube on Heavyweight news.

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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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That's a shame. Wouldn't have been a blockbuster fight but was a higher level stay busy fight for Pulev than most heavyweights even attempt.

Who can step in with 2 weeks notice? Would probably be easiest to bring in an American for Visa reasons but who's even available? Ruiz Jr? Martin? or someone much worse :verysad:

Some like Carman or Zhilei Zhang would probably be able to take it easily aswell. Any lower and it's just your standard heavyweight mismatch.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:19 That's a shame. Wouldn't have been a blockbuster fight but was a higher level stay busy fight for Pulev than most heavyweights even attempt.

Who can step in with 2 weeks notice? Would probably be easiest to bring in an American for Visa reasons but who's even available? Ruiz Jr? Martin? or someone much worse :verysad:

Some like Carman or Zhilei Zhang would probably be able to take it easily aswell. Any lower and it's just your standard heavyweight mismatch.
2 weeks notice??
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:49
joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:19 That's a shame. Wouldn't have been a blockbuster fight but was a higher level stay busy fight for Pulev than most heavyweights even attempt.

Who can step in with 2 weeks notice? Would probably be easiest to bring in an American for Visa reasons but who's even available? Ruiz Jr? Martin? or someone much worse :verysad:

Some like Carman or Zhilei Zhang would probably be able to take it easily aswell. Any lower and it's just your standard heavyweight mismatch.
2 weeks notice??
It would've been a good scrap! I wonder if Pulev will just scratch the fight at this point.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:49
joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:19 That's a shame. Wouldn't have been a blockbuster fight but was a higher level stay busy fight for Pulev than most heavyweights even attempt.

Who can step in with 2 weeks notice? Would probably be easiest to bring in an American for Visa reasons but who's even available? Ruiz Jr? Martin? or someone much worse :verysad:

Some like Carman or Zhilei Zhang would probably be able to take it easily aswell. Any lower and it's just your standard heavyweight mismatch.
2 weeks notice??
Damn, misread the date, thought it was 23rd of Feb. Oops. You can disregard half of the post then.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 14:00
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:49
joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:19 That's a shame. Wouldn't have been a blockbuster fight but was a higher level stay busy fight for Pulev than most heavyweights even attempt.

Who can step in with 2 weeks notice? Would probably be easiest to bring in an American for Visa reasons but who's even available? Ruiz Jr? Martin? or someone much worse :verysad:

Some like Carman or Zhilei Zhang would probably be able to take it easily aswell. Any lower and it's just your standard heavyweight mismatch.
2 weeks notice??
Damn, misread the date, thought it was 23rd of Feb. Oops. You can disregard half of the post then.
It's March 23. Six weeks out. Not time enough for a full camp, but enough to maybe get someone half decent.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 14:06
joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 14:00
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:49
joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:19 That's a shame. Wouldn't have been a blockbuster fight but was a higher level stay busy fight for Pulev than most heavyweights even attempt.

Who can step in with 2 weeks notice? Would probably be easiest to bring in an American for Visa reasons but who's even available? Ruiz Jr? Martin? or someone much worse :verysad:

Some like Carman or Zhilei Zhang would probably be able to take it easily aswell. Any lower and it's just your standard heavyweight mismatch.
2 weeks notice??
Damn, misread the date, thought it was 23rd of Feb. Oops. You can disregard half of the post then.
It's March 23. Six weeks out. Not time enough for a full camp, but enough to maybe get someone half decent.
Yeah just realised.

To put it into context, Hearn managed to bring in Helenius for Whyte on two weeks notice. So hopefully there should be someone around at the same level or similar level. The ones i mentioned would still be relevant i guess. but add some more to the list.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 14:06
joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 14:00
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:49
joshj909 wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 13:19 That's a shame. Wouldn't have been a blockbuster fight but was a higher level stay busy fight for Pulev than most heavyweights even attempt.

Who can step in with 2 weeks notice? Would probably be easiest to bring in an American for Visa reasons but who's even available? Ruiz Jr? Martin? or someone much worse :verysad:

Some like Carman or Zhilei Zhang would probably be able to take it easily aswell. Any lower and it's just your standard heavyweight mismatch.
2 weeks notice??
Damn, misread the date, thought it was 23rd of Feb. Oops. You can disregard half of the post then.
It's March 23. Six weeks out. Not time enough for a full camp, but enough to maybe get someone half decent.
HW don’t need to make weight. That’s a positive. Also, plenty of boxers do stay fit between fights and some may already be on some sort of camp.

Pulev is not gonna fight a better opponent than Helenius IMO.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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Boxrec still has the fight listed for March 23rd.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

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Helenius' Facebook page. Nothing about not fighting Pulev. He's been training hard.

https://www.facebook.com/heleniusrobert
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Pulev will fight Bogdan Dinu
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - OFF

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dagilechia wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 06:10 Pulev will fight Bogdan Dinu
Helenius would've been more competitive but this is probably a more winnable fight for Dinu (compared to Miller) as Pulev doesn't tend to look for the KO. Not very interested in this one tbh.
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - OFF

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joshj909 wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 09:10
dagilechia wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 06:10 Pulev will fight Bogdan Dinu
Helenius would've been more competitive but this is probably a more winnable fight for Dinu (compared to Miller) as Pulev doesn't tend to look for the KO. Not very interested in this one tbh.
i'm not interested too, i don't think that Dinu is much worse than Helenius
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Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - OFF

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Both are crap opponents lets be real.
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