Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

Who wins?

Poll ended at 23 Feb 2019, 19:41

Joyce - Decision
3
5%
Joyce - K/TKO
48
86%
DRAW
1
2%
Stiverne - K/TKO
4
7%
Stiverne - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 56

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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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Oiky wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 16:29
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:40
Oiky wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:38 Stiverne looks a disgrace,I know looks can be deceiving & muscles & the shape you're in can't win you a fight,but he looks a proper slop.....looks like he's been eating kfc every day for weeks & drinking pop
Pot and cheesedoodles.
He's going to get knocked the f**k out
Ya think?! :OhYes:
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 16:30
Oiky wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 16:29
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:40
Oiky wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:38 Stiverne looks a disgrace,I know looks can be deceiving & muscles & the shape you're in can't win you a fight,but he looks a proper slop.....looks like he's been eating kfc every day for weeks & drinking pop
Pot and cheesedoodles.
He's going to get knocked the f**k out
Ya think?! :OhYes:
:lol: don't know what brings me to that conclusion
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

Post by fanman »

oh god, just checked out the photos. and stiverne actually used to have a decent shape, so he must not care anymore.

in fact i cant see any evidence that stiverne has been serious since the First Wilder fight 4 years ago!
what is the point in picking on someone like this? i thought joyce was going to fight ortiz.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

Post by skanksta »

Stiverne knows he's out of shape and his best bet is to land a haymaker early.
Joyce always starts at high pace.
This should be fun round or two..
:box:
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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Only thing stiverne will be annihilating tonight is a box of fast food 🍔
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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Oiky wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 17:34 Only thing stiverne will be annihilating tonight is a box of fast food 🍔
No, a VAT of fast food.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

Post by jtourettes »

Jesus Christ is this fight bad.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

Post by handsofstone »

Good call by the ref to stop it there, Stiverne was too brave for his own good and might have to made it a few rounds further, I admire his toughness but really he was just a human punchbag although he was dangerous with the occasional haymaker. a couple of those right hands which nailed Joyce clean in the 1st would've shook some heavyweights, Joyce chin stood up well, he did look a bit plodding in there and he's slow, he throws tired looking punches but his engine was incredible again, he just never stops coming forward and pushing out the punches, good solid jab, right crosses, the hooks, bodyshots whatever he just keeps throwing

It looked like he might not have the power to KO Stiverne but the right hand he put him down with was a cracker and Stiverne was unravelling when it was stopped

Plenty flaws in Joyce but I like him, he's a bit different
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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stiverne was a physical disgrace...he came to cash his cheque

joyce was a bit too heavy for him, he was also wooden.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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The only thing that impressed me was when Stiverne landed a real flush overhand right in round one that seemed to do nothing to Joyce. Stiverne is old and fat and doesn't pack a very good punch anymore, but that was a hard shot that Joyce didn't even blink on. The rest...was poo...
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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He's not going to beat the top guys. I don't think he hits hard enough for a start, but worse than that is that he is wide open.

He did take one big humdinger really well tonight but Imagine someone like Whyte laying left hooks on him time after time.

Stiverne was a mobile punch bag.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
I'll bet with you! I'll bet that Joyce remains unbeaten until he fights Wilder/AJ/Fury. The loser mails the winner a case of beer. Sound good?
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
I'll bet with you! I'll bet that Joyce remains unbeaten until he fights Wilder/AJ/Fury. The loser mails the winner a case of beer. Sound good?
Virtual bets only. Loser has to post a thread of praise for the other.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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Twinkle Toes wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07 He's not going to beat the top guys. I don't think he hits hard enough for a start, but worse than that is that he is wide open.

He did take one big humdinger really well tonight but Imagine someone like Whyte laying left hooks on him time after time.

Stiverne was a mobile punch bag.
A punch bag who punches back my my mate says
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:16Virtual bets only. Loser has to post a thread of praise for the other.
I like that! Maybe with a photo of the loser doing this guy :bow:

I err on the side of Joyce not getting that far, but he might not need to if the top guys come apart somewhat and fall back. So long as Joyce holds onto his fitness (an unknown at his age), he'll be poised to take advantage of any declining heavyweight betters. I fancy he'd beat Hughie by stopping him from coasting.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:16
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
I'll bet with you! I'll bet that Joyce remains unbeaten until he fights Wilder/AJ/Fury. The loser mails the winner a case of beer. Sound good?
Virtual bets only. Loser has to post a thread of praise for the other.
You clearly have no confidence in your pick. That's fine: I'll let you off the hook.

Joyce and Usyk will be the big opponents next year for the main lads. The others: Dubois, Yoka, Gorman, all that lot, are getting beat. Hrgovic and Ajagba I'm still reserving judgement on. And Dillian Whyte is so overrated it's unbelievable.

If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:39
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:16
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
I'll bet with you! I'll bet that Joyce remains unbeaten until he fights Wilder/AJ/Fury. The loser mails the winner a case of beer. Sound good?
Virtual bets only. Loser has to post a thread of praise for the other.
You clearly have no confidence in your pick. That's fine: I'll let you off the hook.

Joyce and Usyk will be the big opponents next year for the main lads. The others: Dubois, Yoka, Gorman, all that lot, are getting beat. Hrgovic and Ajagba I'm still reserving judgement on. And Dillian Whyte is so overrated it's unbelievable.

If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.
Just not a real betting man. I'm very confident in my pick. Joyce will get exposed once he faces decent opposition. Took him six rounds to beat a has been.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:45
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:39
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:16
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
I'll bet with you! I'll bet that Joyce remains unbeaten until he fights Wilder/AJ/Fury. The loser mails the winner a case of beer. Sound good?
Virtual bets only. Loser has to post a thread of praise for the other.
You clearly have no confidence in your pick. That's fine: I'll let you off the hook.

Joyce and Usyk will be the big opponents next year for the main lads. The others: Dubois, Yoka, Gorman, all that lot, are getting beat. Hrgovic and Ajagba I'm still reserving judgement on. And Dillian Whyte is so overrated it's unbelievable.

If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.
Just not a real betting man. I'm very confident in my pick. Joyce will get exposed once he faces decent opposition. Took him six rounds to beat a has been.
I'm confident in my pick. Joyce makes the top 5 in 12 months. Watch.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:51
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:45
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:39
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:16
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
I'll bet with you! I'll bet that Joyce remains unbeaten until he fights Wilder/AJ/Fury. The loser mails the winner a case of beer. Sound good?
Virtual bets only. Loser has to post a thread of praise for the other.
You clearly have no confidence in your pick. That's fine: I'll let you off the hook.

Joyce and Usyk will be the big opponents next year for the main lads. The others: Dubois, Yoka, Gorman, all that lot, are getting beat. Hrgovic and Ajagba I'm still reserving judgement on. And Dillian Whyte is so overrated it's unbelievable.

If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.
Just not a real betting man. I'm very confident in my pick. Joyce will get exposed once he faces decent opposition. Took him six rounds to beat a has been.
I'm confident in my pick. Joyce makes the top 5 in 12 months. Watch.
You said he remains undefeated until he faces one of the top three.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 21:01
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:51
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:45
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:39
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:16
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:07
clopixolacuphase wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:03 Groves said something interesting about Joyce: about how he only throws arm punches. It made me think of Vitali Klitschko:

“he throws arm punches, but with power”

I don’t think Joyce will beat the big 3 but I think he’ll be top 5 by 2020 and will give a good account of himself. I’m standing by my prediction that he’s the real deal.
I'm on the other side of that as you must know by now. We can bet a virtual Frappuccino. :D
I'll bet with you! I'll bet that Joyce remains unbeaten until he fights Wilder/AJ/Fury. The loser mails the winner a case of beer. Sound good?
Virtual bets only. Loser has to post a thread of praise for the other.
You clearly have no confidence in your pick. That's fine: I'll let you off the hook.

Joyce and Usyk will be the big opponents next year for the main lads. The others: Dubois, Yoka, Gorman, all that lot, are getting beat. Hrgovic and Ajagba I'm still reserving judgement on. And Dillian Whyte is so overrated it's unbelievable.

If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up and admit it.
Just not a real betting man. I'm very confident in my pick. Joyce will get exposed once he faces decent opposition. Took him six rounds to beat a has been.
I'm confident in my pick. Joyce makes the top 5 in 12 months. Watch.
You said he remains undefeated until he faces one of the top three.
Yep. That too.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

Post by gilgamesh »

Just got home, and got to watch this fight. Very good showing by Joyce. He's fun as hell to watch. Showed a good chin too as Stiverne landed some real solid rights in the 1st, but Joyce took 'em well. I definitely look forward to seeing a lot more of Joyce. You gotta figure his flaws will catch up to him against the Elite guys, but win or lose he'll be fun to watch almost always I'd imagine given the way he fights. I'm a fan.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

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gilgamesh wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 21:34 Just got home, and got to watch this fight. Very good showing by Joyce. He's fun as hell to watch. Showed a good chin too as Stiverne landed some real solid rights in the 1st, but Joyce took 'em well. I definitely look forward to seeing a lot more of Joyce. You gotta figure his flaws will catch up to him against the Elite guys, but win or lose he'll be fun to watch almost always I'd imagine given the way he fights. I'm a fan.
You think he's fun to watch? He's like "the Mummy." Painfully slow. Slo-mo-Joe! I agree Stiverne hit him a really good right in the first round flush, and Joyce walked right through it. Highlight of the fight.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Bermane Stiverne - 23 February 2019

Post by gilgamesh »

oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 21:46
gilgamesh wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 21:34 Just got home, and got to watch this fight. Very good showing by Joyce. He's fun as hell to watch. Showed a good chin too as Stiverne landed some real solid rights in the 1st, but Joyce took 'em well. I definitely look forward to seeing a lot more of Joyce. You gotta figure his flaws will catch up to him against the Elite guys, but win or lose he'll be fun to watch almost always I'd imagine given the way he fights. I'm a fan.
You think he's fun to watch? He's like "the Mummy." Painfully slow. Slo-mo-Joe! I agree Stiverne hit him a really good right in the first round flush, and Joyce walked right through it. Highlight of the fight.
Fun as hell to watch. I don't care that he lacks speed. He's aggressive, and steadily on the attack with big shots in combination, on top of that he has a leaky defense, and gets caught with heavy shots himself. What's not to like?

You're almost guaranteed to see a knockout or an action fight at the very least when you watch him.
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