Why is Froch a bitter hunt?

[lefthook82]

This is an interesting watch:

I didn't remember Ward staying in the pocket like that. Might have to rewatach the fight

[Counter-puncher]

I didn't remember Ward staying in the pocket like that. Might have to rewatach the fight

yeah, and when he wasn't punching him repeatedly in the face he was throwing him round and manhandling in the clinches

[TheGman]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Someone like the snake never sleeps well at night,he probably has insecurities about his wife,about his man hood,about the kessler defeat about the ward defeat about sharing the commentary table with Adam about sharing the limelight with Bellew Macklin Nelson etc etc. Froch is a creature and doesnt deserve to be on the sky pay roll anymore,one horrible man he is.

[digzee]

He clearly likes to dish it, but doesn't like to take it...... the parrels between how JC treated Froch and how Froch treated DeGale are huge - well they are exactly the same. JC was just off his prime and many were starting to tip a fresh Froch to do him in what have been a huge fight for the UK and yes, DeGale was mandatory (if memory serves) and after Froch's double struggle vs Groves..... let not forget fight 2 was not a plain sailing drubbing - infact it was seemingly heading to be a reversal of fight 1 - it was Groves who was looking stronger until the boom moment..... and many were tipping DeGale to do Froch.

But it was okay for Froch to retire after his biggest payday and "dream" fight, but not okay for JC to do the same.

he could argue that he faced his mandatory in groves before he retired tho, degale wasn't a mandatory. And obv he had worked his was into that position before JC vacated.

Wrong. DeGale became mandatory when he emphatically KO'd Gonzalez, maybe that's why he didn't fancy the fight and wanted JCCR or Ward in Nottingham, anyone but DeGale.

[digzee]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

You cant buy class and that's 1 thing Froch will never have. Material possessions are overrated,, do you think all rich people are happy?

[Steveh583]

He clearly likes to dish it, but doesn't like to take it...... the parrels between how JC treated Froch and how Froch treated DeGale are huge - well they are exactly the same. JC was just off his prime and many were starting to tip a fresh Froch to do him in what have been a huge fight for the UK and yes, DeGale was mandatory (if memory serves) and after Froch's double struggle vs Groves..... let not forget fight 2 was not a plain sailing drubbing - infact it was seemingly heading to be a reversal of fight 1 - it was Groves who was looking stronger until the boom moment..... and many were tipping DeGale to do Froch.

But it was okay for Froch to retire after his biggest payday and "dream" fight, but not okay for JC to do the same.

he could argue that he faced his mandatory in groves before he retired tho, degale wasn't a mandatory. And obv he had worked his was into that position before JC vacated.

Wrong. DeGale became mandatory when he emphatically KO'd Gonzalez, maybe that's why he didn't fancy the fight and wanted JCCR or Ward in Nottingham, anyone but DeGale.

you are correct I have checked, but froch still fulfilled his mandatory vs his nearest domestic rival before retirement. I don't for one minute think Carl wasn't confident of battering degale, it's just the spoils wouldn't have been worth it, certainly not coming off the groves 2 pay cheque

[bigjack]

Only thicko’s don’t get Froch’s dry style.

He’s got more dough than Calzaghe, Groves & Degale added together. A model Mrs, a beautiful family and Ferrari’s - plus 100+ houses he rents out.

Carry on

Has he still got his girly CBR600? effing hell even my missus has an R1.

But Calzaghe retired undefeated and can spend his retirement knowing that he was the best of his generation. By contrast, Froch took a pasting of George Groves, it of a pasting of Jermaine Taylor, was gifted a decision he lost (and he will no he lost) to Dirrell, got beat by Kessler and was done over by Ward.

Knocked Taylor and Groves the eff out. Beat Dirrell and revenged the Kessler defeat.

I reckon he sleeps well at night.

Maybe I shouldn’t reveal this publicly, but all of those things dog him.

I know when he took that chartered private jet to Marbella to collect the keys to his recently-completed multi million pound villa, the Dirrell fight played on his mind. As he sat in the hot tub with his Mrs, drinking the vintage champagne that the developer left him, He said he wished he’d done more in the fight to leave no doubts. He said it’s the reason he bought the Ferrari, as it helps him forget about it.

Likewise at the opening of his flash rooftop bar overlooking the skyline, he said it was overrated to be clean living, trim and in shape. That he secretly yearned to be a flabby drunken mess with cocaine habit, falling out of nightclubs whilst snogging his own sister like his forgotten welsh hero.

You cant buy class and that's 1 thing Froch will never have. Material possessions are overrated,, do you think all rich people are happy?

He's not happy at all,that's clear to see.

[whiskey]

He's not happy at all,that's clear to see.

100% true. He's only happy on the 1st of each month.

That is when 100's of rents come into his bank.

He's a sore winner. But for a split second tens of thousands of pounds add on to his millions - and he almost smiles.

[Roars Like Me]

He was hard to like when he was boxing, so nowt has changed really. His fighting made up for any nonsense that came out of him, for me. So not boxing anymore, just makes me turn off to listening to him.

Bar one thing:
'That reminds me of the time that I knocked out George Groves in front of 70,000 people'

[MarkMcBurney]

He's not happy at all,that's clear to see.

100% true. He's only happy on the 1st of each month.

That is when 100's of rents come into his bank.

He's a sore winner. But for a split second tens of thousands of pounds add on to his millions - and he almost smiles.

Hi Lee

[lefthook82]

@Gomez,

Seeing as you are so close. Do you remember how he felt after the Ward fight? What did he think about Ward as a fighter and how keen was he to get back in with him?

[bigjack]

He's not happy at all,that's clear to see.

100% true. He's only happy on the 1st of each month.

That is when 100's of rents come into his bank.

He's a sore winner. But for a split second tens of thousands of pounds add on to his millions - and he almost smiles.

That's why so many rich and successful people kill themselves then is it ?

[kbackup408]

@Gomez,

Seeing as you are so close. Do you remember how he felt after the Ward fight? What did he think about Ward as a fighter and how keen was he to get back in with him?

99% sure Froch didn't want to run that back it was such a messy fight, Ward + Hunter are geniuses!

[thepocketrocket]

He's not happy at all,that's clear to see.

100% true. He's only happy on the 1st of each month.

That is when 100's of rents come into his bank.

He's a sore winner. But for a split second tens of thousands of pounds add on to his millions - and he almost smiles.

That's why so many rich and successful people kill themselves then is it ?

Exactly...Gomez has always been a Frock bootlicker, but there is something really base about him just going on about his money, This whole idea that Carl just jerks off over his money like a messed up version of Scrooge McDuck in his money pool totally misses the fact that the biggest cause of depression for older fighters is the fact that they have nothing really to get up for in the morning, that the big nights are gone. Where is the spark?

Froch strikes me as money rich yes, but a man wishing he was still a fighter, hence he makes it all about him, even when he is on there to talk about a fighter who is following him into retirement. He is still in press conference mode.

It is pretty sad.

[kbackup408]

He's not happy at all,that's clear to see.

100% true. He's only happy on the 1st of each month.

That is when 100's of rents come into his bank.

He's a sore winner. But for a split second tens of thousands of pounds add on to his millions - and he almost smiles.

That's why so many rich and successful people kill themselves then is it ?

Exactly...Gomez has always been a Frock bootlicker, but there is something really base about him just going on about his money, This whole idea that Carl just jerks off over his money like a messed up version of Scrooge McDuck in his money pool totally misses the fact that the biggest cause of depression for older fighters is the fact that they have nothing really to get up for in the morning, that the big nights are gone. Where is the spark?

Froch strikes me as money rich yes, but a man wishing he was still a fighter, hence he makes it all about him, even when he is on there to talk about a fighter who is following him into retirement. He is still in press conference mode.

It is pretty sad.

couldn't agree more I am at the stage where I am trying to make myself financially secure for the rest of my life - but the question is will that money give me happiness

deep for a tuesday!

[ewenhay]

Gomez sadly mistaking the fact that the size of a man's bank balance isn't a great tool to measure the worth of a man's personality.

[bigjack]

Gomez sadly mistaking the fact that the size of a man's bank balance isn't a great tool to measure the worth of a man's personality.

Exactly,the way he goes on a bout money makes me think he has none

[big lennox]

I do have some sympathy for Froch. He suffers from the same thing that Larry Holmes did. Larry Homes was a superb fighter, but not as good as a prime ALI, who came before him, and not as good as a prime Tyson, who came along at the end of his career.

Like Holmes, Froch was a superb fighter but not quite as good as Calzaghe, and we know that he was not as good as Ward. Still, a superb career and, as he says, earned pots of money, which most boxers don't. Just wish he would be a bit more gracious about other fighters.

[ewenhay]

Aye you could well be right there Lennox

[Monte Fisto]

@Gomez,

Seeing as you are so close. Do you remember how he felt after the Ward fight? What did he think about Ward as a fighter and how keen was he to get back in with him?

99% sure Froch didn't want to run that back it was such a messy fight, Ward + Hunter are geniuses!

It wasn’t that messy from my memory, just very one sided. Ward beat him up convincingly, for what was boxing at the elite level.

[Boxerbeetle]

I honestly never thought Froch would inspire such strong reactions from people

[Monte Fisto]

Gomez sadly mistaking the fact that the size of a man's bank balance isn't a great tool to measure the worth of a man's personality.

Exactly,the way he goes on a bout money makes me think he has none

Gomez is good poster and seemingly very intelligent i’d Imagine he’s doing ok!!! Carl is his close pal, I think we can all be guilty of defending our pals.
Not everyone cares about being liked, in fact even less so as you get older. I can absolutely get that Carl is happy despite not being overly popular with the British boxing public..
Carl is still in good shape so probably hasn’t mellowed yet and is therefore still commentating with himself in mind, I think he will in a few years. I hope he does anyway. The guy is ultra competitive to a fault.

[Ezzard]

Froch gave more to the fans in the ring than any other Brit of my life time. He seems happy enough to me.

A few years back when Pac was demolishing everyone and the calls for Mayweather to fight him were at fever pitch... They asked Duran who was the best Pac or Mayweather... Duran mulled it over for a few seconds and then said...

Honestly, I'd have to say it was me.

[deadpan]

Froch gave more to the fans in the ring than any other Brit of my life time. He seems happy enough to me.

A few years back when Pac was demolishing everyone and the calls for Mayweather to fight him were at fever pitch... They asked Duran who was the best Pac or Mayweather... Duran mulled it over for a few seconds and then said...

Honestly, I'd have to say it was me.

He was right.

[kbackup408]

I honestly never thought Froch would inspire such strong reactions from people

yes pal, i'm shocked I opened a pandora's box haha !