David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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danconnollyeire wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 08:27 Browne got a gift of a decision after being floored. Scored 57-56. He didn't actually win. Kamil Sokolowski strikes again
Yes, I saw it. Should have been 57-56 Kamil.
Since Whyte splattered him, Browne has been bottom feeding something chronic. 3 Journeymen in a row. Allen's got this :TU:
Glad Parker didn't waste his time fighting Browne.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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MasterG wrote: 02 Mar 2019, 17:49 I thinks David Allen thinks hes better than he is. Allen is nothing more than a 'possible' British level fighter, nothing more. The only thing Allen has going for him is his solid chin. David Allen is a loss away from being a decent journeyman.
Lenroy Thomas. That sums Allen up for me.

He’d beat area level guys but anything above that and it’s a no no. He was losing to Nick Webb...

Sokolowski is better than Allen and apparently Browne too. Browne is washed up
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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I'm not really sure why Dave allen has become so vocal all of a sudden and showing photos of his body. His body is nothing compared to a lot of heavyweights but he must think he has a decent shape for a heavyweight boxer.

I tend to think hes trying to talk someone into a payday before he becomes a journeyman at most.

I have nothing against Dave Allen at all but I just dont get how he thinks hes something special all of a sudden.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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MasterG wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 14:45 I'm not really sure why Dave allen has become so vocal all of a sudden and showing photos of his body. His body is nothing compared to a lot of heavyweights but he must think he has a decent shape for a heavyweight boxer.

I tend to think hes trying to talk someone into a payday before he becomes a journeyman at most.

I have nothing against Dave Allen at all but I just dont get how he thinks hes something special all of a sudden.
^ my feeling x2 - I think he is a gem of a lad and brings in money (especially at the gate) but he should be no where near the top 50
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 13:41
danconnollyeire wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 08:27 Browne got a gift of a decision after being floored. Scored 57-56. He didn't actually win. Kamil Sokolowski strikes again
Yes, I saw it. Should have been 57-56 Kamil.
Since Whyte splattered him, Browne has been bottom feeding something chronic. 3 Journeymen in a row. Allen's got this :TU:
Glad Parker didn't waste his time fighting Browne.
But 57-56 Browne as opposed to 57-56 Sokolowski is a one-round swing (i.e. 10-9 instead of 9-10) - if so, that's not really a gift. Was it just a close fight that could have gone either way? (Open question - I didn't see it).
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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This fight is going to be at the O2 in April as planned.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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olij999 wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 15:30
KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 13:41
danconnollyeire wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 08:27 Browne got a gift of a decision after being floored. Scored 57-56. He didn't actually win. Kamil Sokolowski strikes again
Yes, I saw it. Should have been 57-56 Kamil.
Since Whyte splattered him, Browne has been bottom feeding something chronic. 3 Journeymen in a row. Allen's got this :TU:
Glad Parker didn't waste his time fighting Browne.
But 57-56 Browne as opposed to 57-56 Sokolowski is a one-round swing (i.e. 10-9 instead of 9-10) - if so, that's not really a gift. Was it just a close fight that could have gone either way? (Open question - I didn't see it).
i had it level going into the last...and browne won that on the move with a flicking jab
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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either way browne and sokolowski were about as good as each other
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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rhino222 wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 18:01
olij999 wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 15:30
KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 13:41
danconnollyeire wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 08:27 Browne got a gift of a decision after being floored. Scored 57-56. He didn't actually win. Kamil Sokolowski strikes again
Yes, I saw it. Should have been 57-56 Kamil.
Since Whyte splattered him, Browne has been bottom feeding something chronic. 3 Journeymen in a row. Allen's got this :TU:
Glad Parker didn't waste his time fighting Browne.
But 57-56 Browne as opposed to 57-56 Sokolowski is a one-round swing (i.e. 10-9 instead of 9-10) - if so, that's not really a gift. Was it just a close fight that could have gone either way? (Open question - I didn't see it).
i had it level going into the last...and browne won that on the move with a flicking jab
Thanks - appreciate the response.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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I do struggle to see how, stylistically, Allen wins this. Browne seems to be shot, but Allen is slow and I don't think punches hard enough.

It will be a question of who gases first and I am not sure of the answer..... Browne gassed early vs Whyte, Allen looked fucked early in his last fight. I think the Webb fight is making people overate Allen a tad.

If Browne gasses, then Allen's youth will come through - but I think Allen will gas early - and I think Browne's power will be enough.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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Allen might look in the best shape of his life, but has he got what it takes in the ring to beat Browne.

If he has, then good on him. I will only wish him luck. Would be huge for him.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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Is this still for a belt?
It was mysteriously billed as ‘regional title fight’ but the bout is listed on BoxRec without a title.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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leejonesjnr wrote: 25 Mar 2019, 18:46 Is this still for a belt?
It was mysteriously billed as ‘regional title fight’ but the bout is listed on BoxRec without a title.
According to Allen it's for the international title that Browne holds.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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I still think Browne will win - hope Allen proves me wrong he is a sound fella!
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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MasterG wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 07:53
leejonesjnr wrote: 25 Mar 2019, 18:46 Is this still for a belt?
It was mysteriously billed as ‘regional title fight’ but the bout is listed on BoxRec without a title.
According to Allen it's for the international title that Browne holds.
Seems a bit strange, the bout where Browne won it was contested over eight rounds. If Allen is referring to the WBC Asia title.

Also, the Chisora fight is down as a twelve rounder without any belt listed...
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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Great vid interview with Allen. More reason to really like the guy! I'm picking him to win as he's getting a proper training camp perhaps for the first time ever.

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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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why hasnt he had proper training before. does he work a side job
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jamamb wrote: 16 Apr 2019, 11:59 why hasnt he had proper training before. does he work a side job
He was fighting frequently and it's been in articles from the past. He was taking fights on short notice. He fought 6 times in 2018 with 4 fights the back half of the year. He might have a side job. I have no idea.
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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Dave Allen seems a nice enough lad so respect to him, however he's nothing more than a British level boxer. Browne in my opinion has fought nothing special and Kamil Soko showed us how bad he really is.

I don't think either will stop each other and can't see an hope in hell that Browne cleanly knocks Allen out. Allen has a bloody good chin and that's the best about him. I would like to think Allen can beat Browne but if so it's by the longer route. I can who ever works the hardest will get the decision. I can see a few good moments in the fight for both boxers and if there is a KO it will be by Dave Allen. Both seem tough enough so realistically I see a points win
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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kbackup408 wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 14:48 ^ my feeling x2 - I think he brings in money (especially at the gate)
Does he though?
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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As frustrating as Allen's career has been I cant help but like him, I follow him on twitter and apart from being a funny fvcker he also seems a gent and happy to interact with fans, too many times though he's let himself down by not being in shape, fair enough there's been a few times he's been a late call up but still as a pro athlete the buck stops with him for being overweight, guys in the lighter weights wouldn't be expected to fight with that same level of fitness but Heavyweights get a pass for being a fat mess and can carry on regardless

I thought Allen edged his first Commonwealth title fight with Thomas but it was close and he never covered himself in glory with his effort, he looked in career best shape for the rematch but got cut in the 1st, gutting but again its boxing and all the more reason why fighters shouldn't cut corners in prep, if he'd prepared like that for the first fight then he wouldn't have needed the rematch most probably

He's been in decent KO form since the Yoka loss and the Webb win seems to have maybe finally flicked a switch, the Bracamonte fight last time out was a bloody mess, fun fight but definitely cant be having wars like that at that level

Browne seems like a long way away from the man who KO'd Chagaev, he was in awful shape against Whyte and was punished brutally, he was lucky last time out against Sokolowski by all accounts so he's here for taking for Allen who looks in great nick finally, whether that mean he can change his style who knows but I'm looking to see more workrate from him and a much higher punch output

Browne's always gonna be dangerous with his power but I think Allen will take it late, could be messy at times and gruelling, can see the ref being kept busy but I reckon Browne will tire late down the stretch and Allen can finally get him out of there
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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I am going to go against the grain, but I am over Allen. I was a bit of a fan but as time has worn on, I have grown to not really respect him tbh. I find it all a little bit tiring and I follow him on insta, and have seen pics of him training, showing a better physique, with proclamations of learning his lesson/will be better next time/sorry for letting fans down yadda yadda in every camp.

I met him at the first BellewHaye fight, got to spend a bit of time with him at Nandos (he was there after everyone else associated with the card had buggered off after the weigh in), and I got a long chat with him at AJ v Takam, but am just bored of him now
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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tobyh5 wrote: 16 Apr 2019, 15:07 I am going to go against the grain, but I am over Allen. I was a bit of a fan but as time has worn on, I have grown to not really respect him tbh. I find it all a little bit tiring and I follow him on insta, and have seen pics of him training, showing a better physique, with proclamations of learning his lesson/will be better next time/sorry for letting fans down yadda yadda in every camp.

I met him at the first BellewHaye fight, got to spend a bit of time with him at Nandos (he was there after everyone else associated with the card had buggered off after the weigh in), and I got a long chat with him at AJ v Takam, but am just bored of him now
ya i agree
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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Browne is a big favourite in this one for me. I have no idea how the bookies have this priced up as Allen 4/11 favourite and Browne as big as 12/5 underdog!
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Re: David Allen v Lucas Browne - 13th April

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brownes been looking shot lately but allen was never any good

browne at least had a half decent jab, allen has nothing half decent except his chin. depends on what brownes got left. tbh im not sure allen would do any better vs soko then browne did.
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