Rounding out the Top Ten HW's schedules

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Rounding out the Top Ten HW's schedules

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With most of the top 10 scheduled to fight (assuming Wilder/Breazeale) in the HW division, it would be great if all were fighting. So below is a list of BoxRec Top 10 and their opponents. Those in RED would be my wish list, given the other's being matched up already.

Joshua vs Miller
Wilder vs Breazeale
Fury vs TBA
Whyte vs Ortiz
Povetkin vs TBA
Miller vs AJ
Pulev vs Dinu :zzz:
Ortiz vs Whyte
Breazeale vs Wilder
Kownacki vs Rivas


Ortiz vs Whyte: I think it would be a very competitive fight that could go either way. Both guys have flaws and although Ortiz is the superior tactician, his age would even up the outcome. Result: Whyte outlasts Ortiz by close decision.

Kownacki vs Rivas: While I've followed Rivas for years now, he's is a rather inactive fighter who relies more on his power than boxing, seemingly waiting for the right moment to open up on an opponent and take them out. Kownacki is a swarmer who is maybe the most active HW I've seen in years. The interesting thing would be how Rivas would react to being forced to exchange and not setting the slow pace he seems to be comfortable with. On the other hand, Kownacki is rather easy to hit, as he sits in the pocket and throws a lot of punches, but makes himself vulnerable to taking it back. Washington, while being demolished, was able to open up a nasty gash on Kownacki's eye. I can see this one going either way, but I'd have to lean towards Kownacki, who I love to watch, but don't rate as a top hw. Result: Kownacki by razer thin decision.

Additions? Alternatives? How about picking all the winners and setting up a next round of fights??? A bit of fun.

Guess I was a bit bored this morning. :maybe:
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i like the Povetkin vs Hunter fight. and Usyk's debut of course.
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dagilechia wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 13:50 i like the Povetkin vs Hunter fight. and Usyk's debut of course.
I think Hunter is a soft touch for Pov. Usyk is anyone's guess at this point, but with the fight coming up, I'm sure we'll know soon enough. I still like Usyk/Parker.
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oogiebe wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 12:09 With most of the top 10 scheduled to fight (assuming Wilder/Breazeale) in the HW division, it would be great if all were fighting. So below is a list of BoxRec Top 10 and their opponents. Those in RED would be my wish list, given the other's being matched up already.

Joshua vs Miller
Wilder vs Breazeale
Fury vs TBA
Whyte vs Ortiz
Povetkin vs TBA
Miller vs AJ
Pulev vs Dinu :zzz:
Ortiz vs Whyte
Breazeale vs Wilder
Kownacki vs Rivas


Ortiz vs Whyte: I think it would be a very competitive fight that could go either way. Both guys have flaws and although Ortiz is the superior tactician, his age would even up the outcome. Result: Whyte outlasts Ortiz by close decision.

Kownacki vs Rivas: While I've followed Rivas for years now, he's is a rather inactive fighter who relies more on his power than boxing, seemingly waiting for the right moment to open up on an opponent and take them out. Kownacki is a swarmer who is maybe the most active HW I've seen in years. The interesting thing would be how Rivas would react to being forced to exchange and not setting the slow pace he seems to be comfortable with. On the other hand, Kownacki is rather easy to hit, as he sits in the pocket and throws a lot of punches, but makes himself vulnerable to taking it back. Washington, while being demolished, was able to open up a nasty gash on Kownacki's eye. I can see this one going either way, but I'd have to lean towards Kownacki, who I love to watch, but don't rate as a top hw. Result: Kownacki by razer thin decision.

Additions? Alternatives? How about picking all the winners and setting up a next round of fights??? A bit of fun.

Guess I was a bit bored this morning. :maybe:
There's another post that Fury will be taking on Rivas. Not really sure what Rivas can offer because I haven't seem him fight. But if that's the match, I suppose Fury will be able to win by wide decision or a late TKO.
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Fury and Rivas will be on the same card but not against each other.
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oogiebe wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 13:53
dagilechia wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 13:50 i like the Povetkin vs Hunter fight. and Usyk's debut of course.
I think Hunter is a soft touch for Pov. Usyk is anyone's guess at this point, but with the fight coming up, I'm sure we'll know soon enough. I still like Usyk/Parker.
At this stage (of Povetkin's career) I think I'd favour Hunter to beat him. It would certainly be competitive anyway Hunter is no mug.
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oogiebe wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 14:32 Fury and Rivas will be on the same card but not against each other.
It gets weirder. Fury's being paid silly money for this next fight. I mean you aren't going to want to pay him a fortune and have him face, I dunno ... Alex Flores are you?

Chris Arreola is back with a win :doh:

I found that match quite interesting in terms of deciding who'd win. I mean I didn't have great expectations for Jean-Pierre Augustin, a man who has struggled with Solomon Maye is hardly likely to fill Chris Arreola with a sense of dread is he, but then he was unbeaten and appeared to be improving whereas Arreola has looked pretty awful of late.

Unluckily for JPA, Chris appeared rejuvenated and well up for it. He landed a jab on Augustin's face that sent his head back like it was a full-blooded right hander from Deontay. It's good to see Arreola back looking fresh and motivated just so long as they don't match him with anyone in the top 25 and most definitely not TFury !

The most impressive looking thing about Augustin was those snazzy looking trunks :D
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I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
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Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 09:40 I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
:lol: Doesn't matter. Either way it won't happen
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Why do you say that? Neither are shy of tough competition and both want Wilder asap.

It's a 50/50 in my opinion mainly due to factoring in Ortiz's age. It wouldn't go ten. Ortiz early or Whyte down the stretch.

Whyte may be less inclined to take the fight than previously. He seems to be using his head more these days and looking more at the risk v reward implications.
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candyslim wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:21 Why do you say that? Neither are shy of tough competition and both want Wilder asap.

It's a 50/50 in my opinion mainly due to factoring in Ortiz's age. It wouldn't go ten. Ortiz early or Whyte down the stretch.

Whyte may be less inclined to take the fight than previously. He seems to be using his head more these days and looking more at the risk v reward implications.
Whyte is rated #1 by both the wbc and wbo.
He's waiting for the title shot. He will not risk it unless it's for a buttload of money
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tiny_acres wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:02
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 09:40 I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
:lol: Doesn't matter. Either way it won't happen
I like the first one better. Seriously, sounds like an excellent fight (agreed) that won't happen.
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Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:51
tiny_acres wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:02
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 09:40 I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
:lol: Doesn't matter. Either way it won't happen
I like the first one better. Seriously, sounds like an excellent fight (agreed) that won't happen.
Silly man! :lol:
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oogiebe wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:57
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:51
tiny_acres wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:02
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 09:40 I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
:lol: Doesn't matter. Either way it won't happen
I like the first one better. Seriously, sounds like an excellent fight (agreed) that won't happen.
Silly man! :lol:
BYBRH-Busting Your Balls Revenge Hit :OhYes:
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Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:57
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:51
tiny_acres wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:02
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 09:40 I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
:lol: Doesn't matter. Either way it won't happen
I like the first one better. Seriously, sounds like an excellent fight (agreed) that won't happen.
Silly man! :lol:
BYBRH-Busting Your Balls Revenge Hit :OhYes:
:lol: Clearly! I was legitimately laughing at your prior post of liking Whyte/Ortiz but not Ortiz/Whyte. Oh the humanity! :lol:
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oogiebe wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 12:03
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:57
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:51
tiny_acres wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:02
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 09:40 I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
:lol: Doesn't matter. Either way it won't happen
I like the first one better. Seriously, sounds like an excellent fight (agreed) that won't happen.
Silly man! :lol:
BYBRH-Busting Your Balls Revenge Hit :OhYes:
:lol: Clearly! I was legitimately laughing at your prior post of liking Whyte/Ortiz but not Ortiz/Whyte. Oh the humanity! :lol:
And I refrained form giving my opinion on HST because I hadn't read up on him in a couple decades.
How the heck was I supposed to remember I wrote 3 glowing paragraphs on him a day ago? :maybe:
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Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 12:46
oogiebe wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 12:03
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:57
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:51
tiny_acres wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:02
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 09:40 I like Whyte vs Ortiz but not Ortiz vs Whyte.
:lol: Doesn't matter. Either way it won't happen
I like the first one better. Seriously, sounds like an excellent fight (agreed) that won't happen.
Silly man! :lol:
BYBRH-Busting Your Balls Revenge Hit :OhYes:
:lol: Clearly! I was legitimately laughing at your prior post of liking Whyte/Ortiz but not Ortiz/Whyte. Oh the humanity! :lol:
And I refrained form giving my opinion on HST because I hadn't read up on him in a couple decades.
How the heck was I supposed to remember I wrote 3 glowing paragraphs on him a day ago? :maybe:
Hey, I didn't remember to put socks on today, so you're asking the wrong guy! :lol: :lol:
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tiny_acres wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:23
candyslim wrote: 17 Mar 2019, 11:21 Why do you say that? Neither are shy of tough competition and both want Wilder asap.

It's a 50/50 in my opinion mainly due to factoring in Ortiz's age. It wouldn't go ten. Ortiz early or Whyte down the stretch.

Whyte may be less inclined to take the fight than previously. He seems to be using his head more these days and looking more at the risk v reward implications.
Whyte is rated #1 by both the wbc and wbo.
He's waiting for the title shot. He will not risk it unless it's for a buttload of money
Wyte had a number one rating when he fought Parker didn't he? And it would be for a lot of money as it would have to match or better what they'd get from Sky PPV.

Whether that constitutes a buttload or not might come down to whose butt your referring to. :maybe:
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Also if Whyte wants a shot at the green belt before Wilder turns 36, he may have to beat Ortiz to encourage Sulaiman to play fair. He's done enough twice over to deserve his chance but nothing's fair in love, war ... or boxing.
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oogiebe wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 12:09 With most of the top 10 scheduled to fight (assuming Wilder/Breazeale) in the HW division, it would be great if all were fighting. So below is a list of BoxRec Top 10 and their opponents. Those in RED would be my wish list, given the other's being matched up already.

Joshua vs Miller
Wilder vs Breazeale
Fury vs TBA
Whyte vs Ortiz
Povetkin vs TBA
Miller vs AJ
Pulev vs Dinu :zzz:
Ortiz vs Whyte
Breazeale vs Wilder
Kownacki vs Rivas


Ortiz vs Whyte: I think it would be a very competitive fight that could go either way. Both guys have flaws and although Ortiz is the superior tactician, his age would even up the outcome. Result: Whyte outlasts Ortiz by close decision.

Kownacki vs Rivas: While I've followed Rivas for years now, he's is a rather inactive fighter who relies more on his power than boxing, seemingly waiting for the right moment to open up on an opponent and take them out. Kownacki is a swarmer who is maybe the most active HW I've seen in years. The interesting thing would be how Rivas would react to being forced to exchange and not setting the slow pace he seems to be comfortable with. On the other hand, Kownacki is rather easy to hit, as he sits in the pocket and throws a lot of punches, but makes himself vulnerable to taking it back. Washington, while being demolished, was able to open up a nasty gash on Kownacki's eye. I can see this one going either way, but I'd have to lean towards Kownacki, who I love to watch, but don't rate as a top hw. Result: Kownacki by razer thin decision.

Additions? Alternatives? How about picking all the winners and setting up a next round of fights??? A bit of fun.

Guess I was a bit bored this morning. :maybe:
So out of BoxRec's top ten HW's, only three are without a scheduled fight. Ortiz; Whyte; Kownacki. While we didn't get AJ vs Fury vs Wilder, we have a lot of action coming up. I'd still like to see Ortiz/Whyte and lately I've been thinking Rivas/Parker would be a good go.
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