WBA Gold Championship

leejonesjnr
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WBA Gold Championship

Post by leejonesjnr »

I had not been aware of this title until this morning.
Apparently not a World Championship but a step on the ladder akin to the WBC Silver.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by tiny_acres »

leejonesjnr wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 03:10 I had not been aware of this title until this morning.
Apparently not a World Championship but a step on the ladder akin to the WBC Silver.
:doh: I have up on the WBA a dozen years ago.
Everyone is a champion
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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There’s a clause that says the champ has to come out to Spandau Ballet’s popular hit.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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This is the unfortunate side effect of having too many sanctioning bodies/belts.

For a boxer in this country there should be 6 potential titles - Area, Region (English or Celtic), British, European, World.

And there shouldn't be 4 World titles either, while we're having fantastic conversations :lol:

To be the champ should mean something more than 'I waited around long enough till the two best fighters in my division had a draw, so I got to fight for an 'Interim' title while they justifiably have a rematch', for example.
tim99b
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 03:17 This is the unfortunate side effect of having too many sanctioning bodies/belts.

For a boxer in this country there should be 6 potential titles - Area, Region (English or Celtic), British, European, World.

And there shouldn't be 4 World titles either, while we're having fantastic conversations :lol:

To be the champ should mean something more than 'I waited around long enough till the two best fighters in my division had a draw, so I got to fight for an 'Interim' title while they justifiably have a rematch', for example.


Commonwealth???
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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Just more bulls**t that makes certain aspects of "world level" boxing more farcical
m1kee50
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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tim99b wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 08:55
@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 03:17 This is the unfortunate side effect of having too many sanctioning bodies/belts.

For a boxer in this country there should be 6 potential titles - Area, Region (English or Celtic), British, European, World.

And there shouldn't be 4 World titles either, while we're having fantastic conversations :lol:

To be the champ should mean something more than 'I waited around long enough till the two best fighters in my division had a draw, so I got to fight for an 'Interim' title while they justifiably have a rematch', for example.


Commonwealth???
Knew I forgot something :lol:
KiwiRider
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 14:18
tim99b wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 08:55
@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 03:17 This is the unfortunate side effect of having too many sanctioning bodies/belts.

For a boxer in this country there should be 6 potential titles - Area, Region (English or Celtic), British, European, World.

And there shouldn't be 4 World titles either, while we're having fantastic conversations :lol:

To be the champ should mean something more than 'I waited around long enough till the two best fighters in my division had a draw, so I got to fight for an 'Interim' title while they justifiably have a rematch', for example.


Commonwealth???
Knew I forgot something :lol:
:shame:
samwbr
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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KiwiRider wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 14:25
@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 14:18
tim99b wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 08:55
@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 03:17 This is the unfortunate side effect of having too many sanctioning bodies/belts.

For a boxer in this country there should be 6 potential titles - Area, Region (English or Celtic), British, European, World.

And there shouldn't be 4 World titles either, while we're having fantastic conversations :lol:

To be the champ should mean something more than 'I waited around long enough till the two best fighters in my division had a draw, so I got to fight for an 'Interim' title while they justifiably have a rematch', for example.


Commonwealth???
Knew I forgot something :lol:
:shame:
We can't afford you after #brexit
KiwiRider
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by KiwiRider »

samwbr wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 14:46
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 14:25
@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 14:18
tim99b wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 08:55
@matt___s wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 03:17 This is the unfortunate side effect of having too many sanctioning bodies/belts.

For a boxer in this country there should be 6 potential titles - Area, Region (English or Celtic), British, European, World.

And there shouldn't be 4 World titles either, while we're having fantastic conversations :lol:

To be the champ should mean something more than 'I waited around long enough till the two best fighters in my division had a draw, so I got to fight for an 'Interim' title while they justifiably have a rematch', for example.


Commonwealth???
Knew I forgot something :lol:
:shame:
We can't afford you after #brexit
Awww, course you can. We come in pretty sheep, I mean cheap.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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Hello,
as ridicoulous as it is that the WBA invented another "World title", can somebody explain what the Gold title exactly is?
How can it be won, what's it's value and what chance gets the Gold champion?
Can the Gold Champion challenge the Interim Champion or the Regular Champion?
How's the WBA title order right now in value/meaning...
WBA Super
WBA Regular
WBA Gold
WBA Interim
is that ranking correct? According to the newest WBA Rankings it looks like that to me, what's your opinion.
I also read that the gold champion gets a titleshot at the interim title, which looks like that the interim title is higher than the Gold. I'm looking forward to your answers and hope the confusion can be cleared, thanks a lot
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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I'm over the belts - I prefer using common sense to decipher who #1 is in the division
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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Oiky wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 09:05 Just more bulls**t that makes certain aspects of "world level" boxing more farcical
:clap:
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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jameswilson wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 13:27 There’s a clause that says the champ has to come out to Spandau Ballet’s popular hit.
I'm all for this, provided that it is the Razz Prince version from Phoneshop.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by ElJefe »

danundisputed wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 11:31 Hello,
as ridicoulous as it is that the WBA invented another "World title", can somebody explain what the Gold title exactly is?
How can it be won, what's it's value and what chance gets the Gold champion?
Can the Gold Champion challenge the Interim Champion or the Regular Champion?
How's the WBA title order right now in value/meaning...
WBA Super
WBA Regular
WBA Gold
WBA Interim
is that ranking correct? According to the newest WBA Rankings it looks like that to me, what's your opinion.
I also read that the gold champion gets a titleshot at the interim title, which looks like that the interim title is higher than the Gold. I'm looking forward to your answers and hope the confusion can be cleared, thanks a lot
I thought the gold belt was lower than the interim belt. I was under the impression that having the gold belt puts you in line to fight for the regular belt. But as there is also an interim belt at HW then that's between gold and regular. Maybe you're right though and the gold makes you mandatory for the interim. That'd be a bit mad though because it sort of makes the interim title necessary and in some divisions they don't have one.

Who fvcking knows anymore :lol:
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by leejonesjnr »

As far as I can tell the Gold Championship is not called a World Championship by the WBA, but is more akin to an International or Inter Continental Championship.
I am unsure if the belt says World Champion on it as I haven't been able to find a clear image of a belt, but even if it does it is basically the WBAs version of the WBC silver which does SAY World Champion on it but is not considered a World Championship.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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Still no clear definition of what the gold title is, or what rights a gold champion gets.
Does the Gold Champion become the mandatory challenger for the WBA Interim title...or what?
Did some research but could not yet find a clear definition.
It's funny to me, that there's no valid information to find, couldn't see anything on the WBA page about it.
Looking forward to a clear definition like... The WBA Gold title is...and gives the holder the rights to challenge....?

And something more confusing...The WBA Man of Triumph belt:
Wiki says: Since 2015, the WBA awards a customized version of their Super champion belt to big fights involving a WBA championship. The WBA called this the Man of Triumph belt, named after the trophy awarded to the winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. The plate of the belt has the images of the two boxers fighting. Floyd Mayweather Jr. received the first Gold-plated version of the belt while Manny Pacquiao was awarded a one-time Rhodium-plated version.[14] Other recipients of the custom Gold-plated belt are Anthony Joshua[15], Vasyl Lomachenko[16], Manny Pacquiao[17], Oleksandr Usyk[18], Canelo Alvarez[19], and Callum Smith[20].

When did Anthony Joshua win that belt, anybody got a photo of Joshuas WBA Super Man of Triumph belt?
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by leejonesjnr »

danundisputed wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 07:47 Still no clear definition of what the gold title is, or what rights a gold champion gets.
Does the Gold Champion become the mandatory challenger for the WBA Interim title...or what?
Did some research but could not yet find a clear definition.
It's funny to me, that there's no valid information to find, couldn't see anything on the WBA page about it.
Looking forward to a clear definition like... The WBA Gold title is...and gives the holder the rights to challenge....?

And something more confusing...The WBA Man of Triumph belt:
Wiki says: Since 2015, the WBA awards a customized version of their Super champion belt to big fights involving a WBA championship. The WBA called this the Man of Triumph belt, named after the trophy awarded to the winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. The plate of the belt has the images of the two boxers fighting. Floyd Mayweather Jr. received the first Gold-plated version of the belt while Manny Pacquiao was awarded a one-time Rhodium-plated version.[14] Other recipients of the custom Gold-plated belt are Anthony Joshua[15], Vasyl Lomachenko[16], Manny Pacquiao[17], Oleksandr Usyk[18], Canelo Alvarez[19], and Callum Smith[20].

When did Anthony Joshua win that belt, anybody got a photo of Joshuas WBA Super Man of Triumph belt?
That must be why Joshua poses with two WBA belts in the ring after contests
danundisputed
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by danundisputed »

Yes, I guess so. I found out that he received the WBA Super "Man of triumph" belt against Klitschko
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by CaptainSpacerod »

World class boxers should refuse to fight in wba sanctioned bouts. It wouldn’t harm their careers as there are no shortage of other world title options to pursue
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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People actually gathered in a room, colluded in ideas about what should be the next step to make this governing body the best one in the sport.

And then they actually all agreed this, another belt, was a good idea.

I bet they patted themselves on the back and went for celebration drinks afterwards.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by oogiebe »

Fightnight Scores wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 11:18 People actually gathered in a room, colluded in ideas about what should be the next step to make this governing body the best one in the sport.

And then they actually all agreed this, another belt, was a good idea.

I bet they patted themselves on the back and went for celebration drinks afterwards.
LOL! And then laughed at the additional sanctioning fees they would reap.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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I totally agree with you guys. But still nobody can tell me what the WBA Gold title is and what rights the holder gets
Who knows?
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

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danundisputed wrote: 09 Apr 2019, 08:59 I totally agree with you guys. But still nobody can tell me what the WBA Gold title is and what rights the holder gets
Who knows?
I haven't the foggiest, nor to I really care. All I know is that the Gold belt means nothing to me.
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Re: WBA Gold Championship

Post by Fightnight Scores »

danundisputed wrote: 09 Apr 2019, 08:59 I totally agree with you guys. But still nobody can tell me what the WBA Gold title is and what rights the holder gets
Who knows?
The only "rights" these belts come with is the "right" for the ABC body to charge the fighter/promoter/tv station with a fee for it! :brick:
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