Michael Katz

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 24 May 2006, 06:39

Can anybody tell me what website Michael Katz is currently writing for? Always enjoyed reading his articles when he wrote for Max Boxing. Also, anybody know why he left MB?

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 24 May 2006, 06:41

Sorry, found it. He's at the Sweet Science for anybody interested in his articles...

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... ?author=80

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 24 May 2006, 06:56

He's a right miserable old fornicator. I sent him an email once (as a fellow contributor to maxboxing), and he sent me an email back saying "I don't do penpals."

Fat brace wearing old fuckwit. I don't really like his articles that much either. Too many in jokes and americanisms which don't translate well.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 24 May 2006, 07:03

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's a right miserable old fornicator. I sent him an email once (as a fellow contributor to maxboxing), and he sent me an email back saying "I don't do penpals."

Fat brace wearing old fuckwit. I don't really like his articles that much either. Too many in jokes and americanisms which don't translate well.

Yeah that doesn't surprise me too much. I don't think he cares whom he offends but the guy has a lot of respect (with regards to his work) and he does call things as he sees them. I agree there are a lot of Americanisms in his writing but I still usually find them amusing.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 24 May 2006, 07:09

The gist from Maxboxing is that the effort to keep him on-side was rising disproportionately to a decreasing return. That's obviously a very potted version, but confidences are confidences.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 24 May 2006, 07:15

I've always wondered whether Katz was behind that mad poster Terap that used to post here a few years back till he was banned I think...

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 24 May 2006, 07:19

Yes just about my favorite boxing writer these days, although he can be a pompous old git at times that's true!

Yesterdays article for example, speaking about his fellow writers:

"One of the silliest arguments made by these colleagues – note, I do not refer to them as peers."

Still, he sucks up to no one and has a great style of writing - BIG loss for maxboxing no doubt about that...and a real result for sweetscience: and they publish all their articles FOC, unlike MAX and the very bad kiss arse boxingtalk.

They must have some serious cash behind them to bring so many big names on board at sweetscience ( Kimball, Ken Jones, Schuyler - recently lost the great Pat Putnam too ).

One of the top sites now I reckon.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 24 May 2006, 07:27

I like Jason Probst, nice simple style, good insights, not so much waffle.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 24 May 2006, 07:30

I actually also like Steve Kim & Doug Fischer, although Fischer tends to get a little bit carried away with publishing his own praises in his mailbags, particularly when it relates to some of the nonsense exchanges he engages in, which are similar to what you'd expect to see in the Current Scene forum.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 May 2006, 07:34

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I like Jason Probst, nice simple style, good insights, not so much waffle.

i've enjoyed probst, his work has got much better this past year. don't like that rodriguez guy, i think he was a former shithouseboxing blogger. the compubox guy is good, groves. don't like brian adams, he can't write anything unless bernard hopkins tells him some kind of moral tale

best american writers are greg smith, lotierzo, charles farrell. boxingranks.com was the best fornicating site ever

can't stand katz. his byrd/mosley hugging, his anti-lewis garbage; he does know a fair bit of inside stuff and can write, but he pisses me off. pedro fernandez said his neck brace smells like piss. toney once pulled his brace of and wafted the "stanky ass thing" around a gym

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 24 May 2006, 07:36

Frank Lotierzo is a really nice guy, used to speak to him via email an awful lot when I wrote for Eastside boxing, really knows his stuff. Not the greatest in terms of actual command of English, but a wealth of knowledge.

Steve and Doug engage in their own online personas a wee bit too much, but that's the nature of a webzine I guess.

Tom Gerbasi's stuff is good, generally free from personal bias too.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 24 May 2006, 07:39

MightyWarrior wrote:Yes just about my favorite boxing writer these days, although he can be a pompous old git at times that's true!

Yesterdays article for example, speaking about his fellow writers:

"One of the silliest arguments made by these colleagues – note, I do not refer to them as peers."

Sounds like a right twat to me!

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 May 2006, 07:39

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Frank Lotierzo is a really nice guy, used to speak to him via email an awful lot when I wrote for Eastside boxing, really knows his stuff. Not the greatest in terms of actual command of English, but a wealth of knowledge.

Steve and Doug engage in their own online personas a wee bit too much, but that's the nature of a webzine I guess.

Tom Gerbasi's stuff is good, generally free from personal bias too.

yes, frank's stuff is great in content but not the best spelling, grammar etc. he did some great articles on jimmy young, just after young died. he actually did a lot of sparring in philadelphia, with mike spinks and dwight qawi.

problem with kim is he has to tell you what frigging CD he's listening to, as if anyone cares.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 24 May 2006, 07:41

Katz doesnt suck up to anyone?

Oh my, that made me laugh. Did you not watch his his video interviews with Tyson - there was some major browning of the nose going on there.

I prefer our own breed of internet writers, such as Ant Evans & Ian McNeilly etc

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 24 May 2006, 07:44

viciousmaussa wrote: problem with kim is he has to tell you what frigging CD he's listening to, as if anyone cares.

Kim is also obsessed with american collegiate sports.

If he wants to write aboutt ALU v ACL or whatever the frig it is then find a website that caters for those sports - they mean nothing to me!

Probst, who also does good stuff on MMA, and Gerbasi are two of the best.

Groves comes off as an obsessive complusive statto.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 24 May 2006, 07:54

Twinkle Toes wrote:Katz doesnt suck up to anyone?

Oh my, that made me laugh. Did you not watch his his video interviews with Tyson - there was some major browning of the nose going on there.

I prefer our own breed of internet writers, such as Ant Evans & Ian McNeilly etc

I've never seen the video, but I'm sure most people sitting opposite Tyson are going be on their best behaviour, unless they fancy being dangled out a window with their pants round their ankles!

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 24 May 2006, 07:58

viciousmaussa wrote: can't stand katz. his byrd/mosley hugging, his anti-lewis garbage; he does know a fair bit of inside stuff and can write, but he pisses me off. pedro fernandez said his neck brace smells like piss. toney once pulled his brace of and wafted the "stanky ass thing" around a gym

I imagine that Katz himself smells of wee and that his beard is a home to thousands of morsels from meals he can scarcely remember.

Hos love-in with Byrd is a bit creepy but generally his writing is enjoyable, if a bit pompous

states · Post by **states** » 24 May 2006, 07:59

I think Katz has lost the plot. Tipping Byrd to KO Wlad in 7? Erm.... Oh, and whilst he doesn't like Hatton's chances against Castillo, Cotto, Coralles, Mayweather etc, he seems to fancy him against Margarito. Surely that's a horrible matchup for Ricky?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 24 May 2006, 08:07

states wrote:I think Katz has lost the plot. Tipping Byrd to KO Wlad in 7? Erm.... Oh, and whilst he doesn't like Hatton's chances against Castillo, Cotto, Coralles, Mayweather etc, he seems to fancy him against Margarito. Surely that's a horrible matchup for Ricky?

Yes that's a strange pick, but to be fair he's usualy quite good in his tips - he said both Collazo and Juarez were worth a bet, and he wasn't far wrong.

But yes, the Byrd pick was just plain daft. He's obviously madly in love with the Byrd clan, as well as Johnny Bos and John Hornewer.

Tom Gerbasi is excellent and so is Fischer ( stay clear of his mail bag though )

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 May 2006, 08:30

states wrote:I think Katz has lost the plot. Tipping Byrd to KO Wlad in 7? Erm.... Oh, and whilst he doesn't like Hatton's chances against Castillo, Cotto, Coralles, Mayweather etc, he seems to fancy him against Margarito. Surely that's a horrible matchup for Ricky?

i think margarito was his 'concession'. i.e. 'according to my wisdom gatti, merryweather, castillo, corrales will ALL beat hatton, so i'll give you margarito'. which is a silly statement, especially based on a fight with collazo, who would've killed gatti and made anyone look bad.

what made me want to puke was 'collazo landed 3 punch combinations. mayweather might land 8'

Mensa07 · Post by **Mensa07** » 24 May 2006, 08:31

For someone so highly respected he talks a lot of shit sometimes. Noticed his dig at Hatton claiming the 1st round knockdown was a result of Hatton holding Collazo's neck down with one hand and hitting him with the other..if he'd bothered to check the tape before spouting such crap he'd see he was totally wrong. Guess integrity doesn't matter when you've got yet another non-american fighter to bash in your column.

Also the love for Chris Byrd goes way OTT.

that goes for Mayweather as well. Let Ricky Hatton fight the guy coming off a loss to Tszyu (Mitchell) and the guy coming off a loss to Baldomir (Judah) and see how much P4P #1 love he gets from Katz..

ON the subject of Max can someone let me know when doug fischer has removed those idiotic, child-crafted 'Icheehuahua' cartoons from his mailbag please? I'll tune in and start reading it again then.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 24 May 2006, 08:35

Margaito could be the best Welter out there except Mayweather I think, its a shame that he doesn't seem to be getting the big fights...

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 May 2006, 08:36

[quote="SM2006"]For someone so highly respected he talks a lot of shit sometimes. Noticed his dig at Hatton claiming the 1st round knockdown was a result of Hatton holding Collazo's neck down with one hand and hitting him with the other..if he'd bothered to check the tape before spouting such crap he'd see he was totally wrong. Guess integrity doesn't matter when you've got yet another non-american fighter to bash in your column.

Also the love for Chris Byrd goes way OTT.

ON the subject of Max can someone let me know when doug fischer has removed those idiotic, child-crafted 'Icheehuahua' cartoons from his mailbag please? I'll tune in and start reading it again then.[/quote]

oops what a mess...

never happen mate. chee is in there with the max boys. he's admin for their forum, AND runs their news wire, i think the money that ppl pay to be linked at the top of the news wire goes straight into his pocket (or paypal account). someone up there likes him. agreed, his parodies are fornicating pathetic. you could say chee is a pardoy for letting those crappy greg goodrich RJJ hugger articles on his site around late 2003!

Mensa07 · Post by **Mensa07** » 24 May 2006, 08:42

that explains why all the news wire links go to the doghouseboxing forums i guess.

god have you seen the layout of the doghouseboxing site? its like the deisgner got a hold of the maxboxing template, screwed around with it till it didnt work any more and published it anyway.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 24 May 2006, 09:16

viciousmaussa wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I like Jason Probst, nice simple style, good insights, not so much waffle.
i've enjoyed probst, his work has got much better this past year. don't like that rodriguez guy, i think he was a former shithouseboxing blogger. the compubox guy is good, groves. don't like brian adams, he can't write anything unless bernard hopkins tells him some kind of moral tale

best american writers are greg smith, lotierzo, charles farrell. boxingranks.com was the best fornicating site ever

can't stand katz. his byrd/mosley hugging, his anti-lewis garbage; he does know a fair bit of inside stuff and can write, but he pisses me off. pedro fernandez said his neck brace smells like piss. toney once pulled his brace of and wafted the "stanky ass thing" around a gym

boxingranks was my first boxing site I ever looked at around the 1999/2000 - it was thriving back then, great articles and a huge forum. Its a shame the forum got spammed so it had to close for a large period and a bigger shame the articles site of things slowed right down - due to commitment problems.

The forum is still quality, if small. Aticle side of things is starting to pick up aswell - although there have been one or two bad pieces I have read there.

I have to admit, I am more of a fan of the ticker tape style sites just like Fightnews and the BBC site... Its only really the British stuff that I want the big detail on - and BBN suits me fine in that respect.

I certainly wouldn't pay to read an article just because the writing is better, if I know the results from fightnews (and its so quick and easy to view) then great.