Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

Who wins?

Poll ended at 16 Jun 2019, 12:35

Fury - Decision
23
32%
Fury - T/KO
38
52%
DRAW
5
7%
Schwarz - T/KO
5
7%
Schwarz - Decision
2
3%
 
Total votes: 73

lillywhite14
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

Post by lillywhite14 »

jamamb wrote: 06 Apr 2019, 17:39 he was consistently entertaining early on ...no doubt about that. then he changed the style and now usually a bore.

surely a huge fan would at least remember the ones vs uss and pajik
He was entertaining in first part of his career. Plenty of decent fights, the two with John McDermott were cracking fights,

Once he stepped up though, he simply realised he doesn’t have the power or possibly the chin, to engage like he did against the lesser opposition. He adjusted. He’s very negative. Everything is done moving away or with little force behind it. Idiots say Mayweather did the same...did he Fvck. He stepped it up when he felt he could, at the very highest level. That’s the difference between a massive, awkward negative boxer, and a genuine master boxer like Floyd.

Absolutely works for him though. He makes use of his freakish size, frame and relative athleticism.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

Post by funso banjo baby »

Fury was magnificent against Wilder in a close fight.

this is a defence of the linear title, so it can be anyone really

I dislike Shwarz very much

he'll probably sling a few shots try to survive and then take a knee for no reason around the 9th claiming a foul
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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The unbeaten heavyweight from England will play Sin City for the first time in his career, with his June 15 clash with Germany’s Tom Schwarz officially landing at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. The destination for the ESPN+ card was confirmed through MGM Grand Hotel’s corporate office on Monday.

With venue confirmation comes the first major heavyweight bout to headline at the venue since Jan. ’15, when Deontay Wilder soundly outpointed Bermane Stiverne over 12 rounds to begin his still current title reign
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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I absolutely will NOT be watching this fight. Terrible.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

Post by jamesmcdonnell »

I get it, it's really just a vehicle for Fury to showcase himself in Vegas.

However, if he wants to win over an American audience, he'd better not stink the joint out with a boring points win.

In a sense he was lucky that he got twatted by Wilder, because he was heading for a pretty dull points win otherwise.

The beyond the grave style way he got up, made the fight way more dramatic, and probably won him a lot of US fans. He needs to look good here if he wants to continue that trajectory.

I know nothing about Schwarz, but I assume he's a useless souffle type who will fold quicker than a wonky deckchair when hit.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 15:04 I get it, it's really just a vehicle for Fury to showcase himself in Vegas.

However, if he wants to win over an American audience, he'd better not stink the joint out with a boring points win.

In a sense he was lucky that he got twatted by Wilder, because he was heading for a pretty dull points win otherwise.

The beyond the grave style way he got up, made the fight way more dramatic, and probably won him a lot of US fans. He needs to look good here if he wants to continue that trajectory.

I know nothing about Schwarz, but I assume he's a useless souffle type who will fold quicker than a wonky deckchair when hit.
I'm so certain that Fury will be clowning around and doing his usual antics. That's not going to ingratiate himself with the US fans.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Apr 2019, 10:14
I think they'll be giving away a ton of tickets to make the venue appear packed.
This fight has zero appeal
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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Buy cheap seats and move way down on show night.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 09 Apr 2019, 12:30 Buy cheap seats and move way down on show night.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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Tickets for the Las Vegas debut of lineal heavyweight champion Tyson Fury — Saturday, June 15 at MGM Grand Garden Arena — will go on sale TOMORROW, April 25 at 10 a.m. PST/1 p.m. EST/6 p.m. GMT.

The event will be promoted by Top Rank, in association with allegedly’s Queensberry Promotions and SES Boxing.

Tickets priced at $500, $300, $100 and $50 can be purchased online through axs.com, charge by phone at 866-740-7711 or in person at any MGM Resorts box office.

Richard Sturm, President of Las Vegas Live Entertainment and Sports, said, "We look forward to hosting the Fury-Schwarz heavyweight fight at MGM Grand on June 15. These two exciting fighters, known by boxing fans worldwide, will be sure to put on a blockbuster event this summer.”
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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I may not even watch the highlights of this fiasco.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 24 Apr 2019, 17:36 I may not even watch the highlights of this fiasco.
I'm a Tyson Fury fan and I hope he gets knocked out.
This is a joke. At least let it have a funny punchline
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

Post by the_doctor »

Fury believes he has already had his career defining fight (Klitschko)

I think he'd be happy enough fighting the likes or Seferi and Schwarz, bleating on about being Lineal Champion, until he retires.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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BT have confirmed this is on PPV. 😢

This will be a true test of the popularity of Fury.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 14:46 I absolutely will NOT be watching this fight. Terrible.
I'll read the report the next day and IF anything exciting happens i'll watch it on youtube maybe,otherwise i'll not bother either.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Apr 2019, 10:14
Things must be bad for the MGM to get involved in this shite,surely this isn't the main event ?
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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maverick23 wrote: 13 May 2019, 08:01 BT have confirmed this is on PPV. 😢

This will be a true test of the popularity of Fury.

I suspect that is more BT's problem than Fury's. He'll earn more if it's on PPV than if it's not. How much more does, of course, depend on his popularity and BT's marketing effort and success. It's a tough sell.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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Fans in the UK will be able to watch lineal heavyweight champion Tyson Fury (27-0-1, 19 KOs) defend his title next month against undefeated highly ranked #2 WBO contender Tom Schwarz (24-0, 16 KOs) on June 15 LIVE on BT Sport Box Office pay-per-view.

Many fans upset at Fury vs. Schwarz being shown on PPV

To a lot of fans, Schwarz is seen as a powder puff heavyweight, a fighter who has been his resume off the backs of mediocre opposition, carefully selected by his promoter. Many of the fans don’t rate Schwarz as being talented enough for him and Fury to be fighting on pay-per-view. They see the Fury-Schwarz as one that should be shown on free television or not at all.

U.S fans can watch Fury-Schwarz on ESPN+

Fury vs. Schwarz will be also shown in the United States on ESPN+. This is a subscription service that goes for $4.99 per month. For boxing fans that are already subscribing to ESPN+, they won’t mind tuning in to see the fight, but the fight will not bring in many new subscribers unfortunately. Fury, 6’9”, is still an unknown with the casual fans, and Schwarz is only known by hardcore fans in the U.S, and they don’t think too much of them. Many of them aren’t pleased with the way that Fury’s new promoters at Top Rank Boxing are matching him, as they want to him fighting the best in the heavyweight division, beginning with a much needed rematch against Wilder. The LIVE Fury-Schwarz fight stream on ESPN+ will start at at 10:00 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT. on June 15.

Fury vs. Schwarz on pay-per-view isn’t surprising

While there are many boxing fans grumbling about the Fury-Schwarz fight being shown on BT Sport Box Office pay-per-view with no heavyweight world title up for grabs, it’s not uncommon for fights of this nature to be on PPV. British heavyweight Dillian Whyte has been routinely fighting on Sky Box Office PPV in the UK in headlining his own cards against the likes of journeyman Dereck Chisora, Joseph Parker and Lucas ‘Big Daddy’ Browne. Whyte, 31, will be fighting fringe contender Oscar Rivas (26-0, 18 KOs) this summer on July 20 on Sky Box Office PPV, and the only title that will be up for grabs is Whyte’s WBC Silver heavyweight belt. That’s not a major title. That’s one of the WBC’s trinket titles. What Fury is doing in fighting Schwarz on BT Sport Box Office pay-per-view is no different that what Whyte has been doing, and what heavyweight Anthony Joshua is doing in fighting on Sky Box Office PPV.

Fury has the popularity of a heavyweight world champion; hence he’s now fighting on pay-per-view in the UK. Boxing in the United States need to pay as well to see Fury fight, as his match against Schwarz will be shown on ESPN+. Having the fight on that subscription service is obviously a gamble on Top Rank and ESPN’s part, because the the casual boxing fans in the U.S have no clue who either of these guys are. The hardcore fans aren’t going to want to waste their money to pay to see Fury, a fighter with an arguably boring style of fighting, slap up an inexperienced German heavyweight. Fury vs. Schwarz is likely not going to bring in big numbers on ESPN+ as far as new subscriptions. That’s why it would have been better for Top Rank to have put the Fury-Schwarz fight on regular ESPN so that the casual fans in the States could see Fury for the first time, and get familiar with him without having to subscribe to the service. For sales people that are trying to get customers hooked on a product, they often give away free samples initially. If the customers like the product, then they’re more willing to pay for it once it’s no longer free. With Fury, Top Rank is going about it the wrong way by his fight against an unknown heavyweight on the ESPN+ subscription service in the U.S. In the UK, the British boxing fans are already familiar with Fury, so it’s not surprising that his fight with Schwarz is on BT Sport Box Office pay-pr-view.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Apr 2019, 17:34 Tickets for the Las Vegas debut of lineal heavyweight champion Tyson Fury — Saturday, June 15 at MGM Grand Garden Arena — will go on sale TOMORROW, April 25 at 10 a.m. PST/1 p.m. EST/6 p.m. GMT.

The event will be promoted by Top Rank, in association with allegedly’s Queensberry Promotions and SES Boxing.

Tickets priced at $500, $300, $100 and $50 can be purchased online through axs.com, charge by phone at 866-740-7711 or in person at any MGM Resorts box office.

Richard Sturm, President of Las Vegas Live Entertainment and Sports, said, "We look forward to hosting the Fury-Schwarz heavyweight fight at MGM Grand on June 15. These two exciting fighters, known by boxing fans worldwide, will be sure to put on a blockbuster event this summer.”
..one really has to be a huge Fury fan to dish out 50 bucks for this kind of entertainment..
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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maverick23 wrote: 13 May 2019, 08:01 BT have confirmed this is on PPV. 😢
So US fans get this fight prime time via an app for $4.99?

UK fans, get this fight around 4am, and would have to folk out probably £19.

Fury being a British boxer as well.

Like the above article states, he isn't going to add any subs to the ESPN+ app. Would have made sense, if they wanted to showcase him, to have him on regular ESPN.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 09 Apr 2019, 12:30 Buy cheap seats and move way down on show night.
Or if it's a stinker move out of the arena altogether :lol:
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

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bigjack wrote: 13 May 2019, 10:38 Or if it's a stinker move out of the arena altogether :lol:
or that!!! :lol:
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Tom Schwarz - 15 June 2019

Post by coneye »

You know , when i see a fight made that i think is gonna be a stinker , is a ripp off , or just out and out taking the piss , this one is all three,,, Well i have a simple formula , to protest , I DON'T BUY actually i don't bother watching either .
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