WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019

[handsofstone]

I'll make my mind up closer to the fight, location could prove crucial, Prograis looks another step up for Taylor but I wonder if he's as durable as Baranchyk, he very well could be but the way Relikh wobbled him after the bell last time out does give you food for thought, sure it was an illegal shot and Prograis was in no position to defend himself but still he was wobbled, that's a bonus for Taylor as far as finding any chinks in the armour

[jamamb]

i remember buglioni dropping chudinov after the bell but not being able to budge him the slightest when they were actually fighting.....prog hasnt shown any durability issues that i know of but i do expect josh to hit him more then hes ever been hit

[KiwiRider]

The fact Josh got 12 rounds in and Reggie didn't will help a little bit.
I still think Taylor is up against it here.
I wonder who he is to spar against in preparation? Any slick LW-SWW southpaws local?

[bigped]

The fact Josh got 12 rounds in and Reggie didn't will help a little bit.
I still think Taylor is up against it here.
I wonder who he is to spar against in preparation? Any slick LW-SWW southpaws local?

I would imagine he will do a lot of sparring with Luke Campbell with them
Being in same gym

[KiwiRider]

I would imagine he will do a lot of sparring with Luke Campbell with them
Being in same gym

Good point.
I was thinking Turbo Terry could pass on some tips. He's been in with Reggie and is a southpaw.

[NoScoutingReports]

I would imagine he will do a lot of sparring with Luke Campbell with them
Being in same gym

Watched an interview with Shane Mcguigan last week & he referred to Taylor having good quality sparring with Campbell

[fizzjambo]

Been thinking about this fight for ages now.

The way I see it, Prograis is a horrible fight for anyone. He can really hit and he’s slick as f. He’s hard to hit even though he doesn’t have his hands up and doesn’t move his feet, which always stay in perfect power-punching stance.

Prograis exploits an open stance match up well, the angles of the punches are different when you’re a southpaw vs orthodox and can be easier to slip and roll, especially using his lead shoulder and landing big lefts to the body under straight rights. Gervonta does some similar stuff.

To beat him, you’d ideally have a southpaw stance so the shots are coming from
Different angles and he might not slip em as easy. He didn’t struggle with Flanagan but it did make the very big counters harder to land. You’d also want a lot of speed and good combos, that’s how you get to slicksters. Good long reach because Prograis isn’t the biggest LWW. You’d want to be able to tie him up inside and negate his short hooks. And you definitely need good feet to get in and out to land your own without lingering in the danger zone, this might be possible because Regis doesn’t move his feet much.

Funny enough, Taylor has all that. In a way, I think Regis is better but Taylor has just the right style to beat him. He’d have to be on his game and move constantly and get his respect with some big shots and take a few himself.

For the same reasons I think lomachenko beats Gervonta. Weird how the two matches are similar.

That’s just my view. There’s every chance he drops a bomb on his chin though.

Pretty much exactly how I see it. Prograis is clearly talented but he’s slick from the waist up, his movement is based on dipping at the knees, twisting his waist and weaving whilst staying in range. Taylor has superb feet and is an excellent judge of range, as well as being a decent combination puncher to boot. He has the almost perfect style to minimise Prograis strengths without consciously trying to do so.

It’s a close fight but I believe Taylor will outland Prograis and I’m not sure we know how good the Americans chin is yet. How Prograis takes Taylor’s shots could be the deciding factor

[Ruthless-RKO]

It will be in the hydro and on sky ppv that is where I suspect the most money will come from

Ah crap. Sky PPV. Didn’t even think of that.

[Delta Jay]

Pretty much exactly how I see it. Prograis is clearly talented but he’s slick from the waist up, his movement is based on dipping at the knees, twisting his waist and weaving whilst staying in range. Taylor has superb feet and is an excellent judge of range, as well as being a decent combination puncher to boot. He has the almost perfect style to minimise Prograis strengths without consciously trying to do so.

It’s a close fight but I believe Taylor will outland Prograis and I’m not sure we know how good the Americans chin is yet. How Prograis takes Taylor’s shots could be the deciding factor

Thanks. I think you’re right, they’re might even be money in a late Taylor stoppage bet.

Prograis maybe just hasn’t got hit enough to need a great chin so far?

[Nightmare Roy]

Just been watching what I can of Prigrais hadn’t seen much of him, he really looks the business, tough fight for Josh, hopefully he can do it, gonna be an absolute cracker that’s for sure.

[skanksta]

I'll make my mind up closer to the fight, location could prove crucial, Prograis looks another step up for Taylor but I wonder if he's as durable as Baranchyk, he very well could be but the way Relikh wobbled him after the bell last time out does give you food for thought, sure it was an illegal shot and Prograis was in no position to defend himself but still he was wobbled, that's a bonus for Taylor as far as finding any chinks in the armour

Glasgow location would make it 50/50 with Prog a (close but) clear favourite in the US.

[Boxerbeetle]

Nah I really can’t see Sky putting this on PPV, just not enough interest for the casuals who prop up that market.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Nah I really can’t see Sky putting this on PPV, just not enough interest for the casuals who prop up that market.

Well previous finals were on ITV PPV.

Maybe Sky have invested well in the WBSS, to cover many expenses.

[Joel2]

Taylor did well against baranchyk but he wasn’t stunning and without the 10-7 round I think he would have lost. Prograis wins by decision fairly comfortably after frustrating Taylor early on

[3132DW]

Nah I really can’t see Sky putting this on PPV, just not enough interest for the casuals who prop up that market.

Sky won’t use PPV slot for Taylor - when you likely have AJ/Whyte/Lomachenko in 2nd half of the year.

[NoScoutingReports]

Well previous finals were on ITV PPV.

Maybe Sky have invested well in the WBSS, to cover many expenses.

It may depend on where the final is staged? If it takes place in the UK it may be an easier sell (prime time on a Saturday night for example) as opposed to the middle of the night/day elsewhere. Would expect this to be on normal Sky Sports though to be honest.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Josh Taylor: I'm 100% Confident I'll Beat Prograis, Win WBSS

The final venue has yet to be decided with the tournament organisers set to hold discussions over the next month.

The Tartan Tornado said: “I think it’s a different fight.

“This one was physical, the final will be more skilful and tactical because we are both smart fighters.

“I’m 100 percent confident that I’m going to win this tournament.

“I’m more than happy to go wherever it is to win it.”

Unbeaten American Prograis was ringside in Glasgow to get a first-hand view of who he will face for the Muhammad Ali trophy.

Prograis earned his place in the final by stopping Kiryl Relikh last month.

Both fighters have had their quarter-finals and semi-finals on home turf so the organisers may take the decider to a neutral venue.

Prograis said: “He has a big fan base here, I have a big fan base at home so maybe put it in a neutral place.

“I think the fighting culture is bigger here.

“There are holes there in his game that he is going to tighten it up. I told him that in the ring.”

[Nondescript]

I remember seeing an interview where Prograis was saying he regularly spars middleweights and has done so on purpose since turning pro, so nothing really surprises him strength/size wise in the ring.

I'm sure he's said he's sparred the Charlo brothers aswell.

[Ruthless-RKO]

As both boxers have received two local appearances, their finals bout will land in somewhat of a neutral venue. The regional edge could be with Taylor, as preliminary whispers calls for the 140-pound championship round to land in London or elsewhere in the United Kingdom.

[jamamb]

doesnt sound like a neutral location

[Ruthless-RKO]

doesnt sound like a neutral location

Yeh. Anything UK is definitely in favour of Taylor.

[jamamb]

wont make a difference to the winner though, after a close start prog will do a number on joshua

[ewenhay]

wont make a difference to the winner though, after a close start prog will do a number on joshua

You love Joshua so much you even type his name in threads about other fighters!

[Delta Jay]

You love Joshua so much you even type his name in threads about other fighters!

I imagine Josh Taylor’s first name is Joshua. Think it was you who brought AJ into this...

[3132DW]

It may depend on where the final is staged? If it takes place in the UK it may be an easier sell (prime time on a Saturday night for example) as opposed to the middle of the night/day elsewhere. Would expect this to be on normal Sky Sports though to be honest.

Adam Smith said yest they would like Taylor/Inoue finals and they would be speaking to Eddie/WBSS to see what can be done.