Gennady Golovkin vs. Steve Rolls - June 8, 2019

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Golovkin has been done over in his career. It’s a bit late now but he’s finally taking control of it. Looks like he’s making decisions himself.

A source stated GGG wanted to train closer to home, Santa Monica, so he might be based in the LA area, that’s why he wanted to leave Nig Bear.

Virgil Hunter?

Who else saw this coming? Abel wasn’t even at the GGG-Rolls pressers.

[kbackup408]

Golovkin has been done over in his career. It’s a bit late now but he’s finally taking control of it. Looks like he’s making decisions himself.

A source stated GGG wanted to train closer to home, Santa Monica, so he might be based in the LA area, that’s why he wanted to leave Nig Bear.

Virgil Hunter?

Who else saw this coming? Abel wasn’t even at the GGG-Rolls pressers.

it was most defo money related - read something this morning : https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/4/24/1 ... money-dazn

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GGG cuts ties with Sanchez, refused to keep him for less than half of previous fee!

By G. Leon

Greg Leon: Coach I want to be like you when I grow up, to be able to tell a fighter like Gennady Golovkin who just signed a nine figure deal that cutting my pay 80%, that ain't going to work for me even though it's still six figures so bye.

Abel Sanchez: "And it had to be that, it's unfortunate. I wouldn't be able to sleep with myself." GL: So you were getting 10% and now he gets that deal and it's time to chop your slice down big time? Abel Sanchez: "He gets a $100M deal and nobody deserves to be paid and nobody did anything I guess."

GL: Where do you think all of this came from? You've had this kid for nine years, if this was who he was chances are it would've happened sooner, like before or after the first Canelo fight for instance.

AS: "Two or three months ago we read about him being in a lawsuit with his old managers who all of a sudden were no longer his managers for whatever the reason. Somebody told me earlier today that they read an article where his wife is going to be in charge of the management situation and wants to be in charge of the management situation, so I have to assume that was part of it. Are you married? If you're married you know what that's like, you've got to live with that person day in and day out and maybe that had something to do with it I don't know."

GL: Living with your wife doesn't make her Egis Klimas..

AS: "Very true, but sometimes people look out for their family and don't give a shit about anybody else's family."

GL: In your opinion do you think they made this offer knowing that you would turn it down, or do you think they genuinely wanted you to proverbially eat it to stay on board?

AS: "I don't think it really mattered to them. It doesn't matter because we've done very well to this point and they were more concerned about how much I was making, instead of looking at it for what it is, the more I make the more you make. I think at this stage of it, obviously he's at the tail end of his career, at the end of it and maybe he thinks that anybody could work the corner. It's hard to try to decipher really because I was blindsided. I've had a lot of fighters, but I've would have never expected this from this kid, never!"

GL: Do you think GGG considers himself a finished product so it's about whatever capable trainer he could get to take it for the least amount money is at this point?

AS: "Rationalizing it, we were more like a family these last nine years and if you don't pay it to your coach you're going to pay it to Uncle Sam. I was honestly blindsided and in this business, and you know it well, the one who spends the most time with the athlete is the only one on the team that isn't protected by a contract, and that's the coach."

GL: What were you looking for in the counter proposal that you sent them?

AS: "I was asking for a little less than half of what I was making before. I thought that I put too much time in, I put too much effort in, I've sacrificed a lot for this young man and I didn't want that tarnished. I honestly didn't want him to get the bad press that I'm reading right now, I didn't want that."

GL: You used the word family, I imagine the emotional investment you've put in makes this a very difficult situation. I imagine you were looked at as some sort of figure, a big brother, an uncle figure.

AS: "He looked to me as a father figure because his father died four or five years ago. I was kind of like the older, wiser fellow in his life. Of all the fighters I've been around I never expected it from this kid. We've had so many conversations about what other fighters were doing and how he would never do things like this because his team and his family were the most important thing in his life, I really never expected this.

(Editors Note: This is a very emotional moment for Sanchez and you could feel his hurt through the phone and we cut the interview off at this point.)

[SenorPipino]

Money is definitely a priority now. Having encountered the dirty Vegas business and having been robbed of his dreams, Golovkin became the same as most in the business.

So Golovkin didn't grow up and understand the real world until he hit his mid 30s?

Okay. But don't drink too much Golovkin Kool-Aide. It's shelf life has just about hit its expiration date.

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Golovkin, Loeffler Explain Picking Rolls As Opponent For June 8

Golovkin and Tom Loeffler, his promotional representative, explained Monday before a press conference at Madison Square Garden how they arrived at choosing Toronto’s Rolls, an unbeaten but unknown opponent.

“I’ll tell you, honestly, I didn’t know a lot about him,” Golovkin said through a translator. “But because DAZN is trying to establish themselves in Canada and Steve’s from Canada, I figured that this would be a good starting point for us.”

Golovkin passed on France’s N’Dam (37-3, 21 KOs) in favor of the 35-year-old Rolls (19-0, 10 KOs). Poland’s Szermeta (19-0, 4 KOs) didn’t reciprocate interest, according to Loeffler.

“I can shed some more light on the opponent process,” Loeffler said. “There were a lot of other names that were being considered. N’Dam was one of them. Sulecki we heard was available. But then, when I contacted his promoter directly, he wasn’t available for June 8th, only the end of June. The undefeated Polish guy, Szermeta, we offered him the fight last May. Then we offered [it to] him this time and he wasn’t interested. [Demetrius] Andrade has his mandatory obligation. So, for this fight here, for this homecoming to New York and to The Garden – and like Gennady said, out of the opponents being considered, DAZN liked that Rolls is from Canada and they can publicize that to their subscribers up there in Canada.”

[Enlightened-One]

So GGG chose Rolls over N’Dam and never bothered to contact Andrade (even though Demetrius didn't have an opponent for his June fight-date, since Sulecki was injured)?

Didn’t Golovkin previously criticise others for engaging in business fights?

[oogiebe]

Golovkin, Loeffler Explain Picking Rolls As Opponent For June 8

Golovkin and Tom Loeffler, his promotional representative, explained Monday before a press conference at Madison Square Garden how they arrived at choosing Toronto’s Rolls, an unbeaten but unknown opponent.

“I’ll tell you, honestly, I didn’t know a lot about him,” Golovkin said through a translator. “But because DAZN is trying to establish themselves in Canada and Steve’s from Canada, I figured that this would be a good starting point for us.”

Golovkin passed on France’s N’Dam (37-3, 21 KOs) in favor of the 35-year-old Rolls (19-0, 10 KOs). Poland’s Szermeta (19-0, 4 KOs) didn’t reciprocate interest, according to Loeffler.

“I can shed some more light on the opponent process,” Loeffler said. “There were a lot of other names that were being considered. N’Dam was one of them. Sulecki we heard was available. But then, when I contacted his promoter directly, he wasn’t available for June 8th, only the end of June. The undefeated Polish guy, Szermeta, we offered him the fight last May. Then we offered [it to] him this time and he wasn’t interested. [Demetrius] Andrade has his mandatory obligation. So, for this fight here, for this homecoming to New York and to The Garden – and like Gennady said, out of the opponents being considered, DAZN liked that Rolls is from Canada and they can publicize that to their subscribers up there in Canada.”

Sounds eerily familiar with AJ trying to find a US HW to fight. DAZN isn't helping their cause if this is true. A good matchup would better serve DAZN's foray into America. Not that it will matter in the end.

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Sounds eerily familiar with AJ trying to find a US HW to fight. DAZN isn't helping their cause if this is true. A good matchup would better serve DAZN's foray into America. Not that it will matter in the end.

Yeah. It does seem like DAZN have some sort of input. Seem to steer the direction of opponents.

Why not just have Canelo fight Lemieux nect at 160 or 168. That might help Canadian fan base.

How well is Rolls even known in Canada. Casuals? His neighbours? they might subscribe.

[oogiebe]

Yeah. It does seem like DAZN have some sort of input. Seem to steer the direction of opponents.

Why not just have Canelo fight Lemieux nect at 160 or 168. That might help Canadian fan base.

How well is Rolls even known in Canada. Casuals? His neighbours? they might subscribe.

I honestly hadn't heard of him before this announcement.

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[jamamb]

lol ggg snowflake

what did dani say?

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lol ggg snowflake

what did dani say?

Not watched the IFL interview yet. Did he say?

Just seen it: he didn’t want to comment.

[3132DW]

Didn’t comment on why - just he wasn’t fighting.

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Didn’t comment on why - just he wasn’t fighting.

Well, hopefully GGG tells us. Or some Kazakh paper.

C’mon GGG, ur supposed to be looking out for your countrymen.

[boxing_rocks]

Well, hopefully GGG tells us. Or some Kazakh paper.

C’mon GGG, ur supposed to be looking out for your countrymen.

They won't say it. Most likely, Golovkin is pushing GGG Promotions fighters.

[Thomastearns]

Money is definitely a priority now. Having encountered the dirty Vegas business and having been robbed of his dreams, Golovkin became the same as most in the business.

This sort of 'waking up' isn't merely confined to boxing. Business and politics see this drama being enacted out every day.

Even if someone enters these fields with good and honest intentions, and yes there probably are some young, inexperienced, naive sheltered souls still out there, it's will be incredibly difficult for them to passively stand by and watch whilst others are filling their pockets by the hour by whatever means they can.

In Golovkin's case it seems as if his waking up occurred as a result of his belts being transferred to Canelo Alvarez in such shady circumstances. The world watched and saw one of its finest champions robbed of his hard won belts by a failed drug cheat. Many were outraged but nothing was done and this crooked business goes on as before.

You can imagine his shock and frustration, no doubt some of it aimed at Sanchez and Loeffler who did virtually nothing to counter the corruption in their wish to get paid. So it's understandable that he's "sold out" himself since martyrdom is an increasingly rare commodity in these times. It tends not to pay very well in an era of instant global communication where reputations can be tarnished or even destroyed in a manner of minutes.

Yet despite all this, even today there are some (albeit mostly Canelo fans) who still adhere to the notion that Boxing, the WBC, and Las Vegas are running a clean business. Even a few here on boxec! That's what you call naive!

Gennady Golovkin to his regret now knows better.

[tiny_acres]

This sort of 'waking up' isn't merely confined to boxing. Business and politics see this drama being enacted out every day.

Even if someone enters these fields with good and honest intentions, and yes there probably are some young, inexperienced, naive sheltered souls still out there, it's will be incredibly difficult for them to passively stand by and watch whilst others are filling their pockets by the hour by whatever means they can.

In Golovkin's case it seems as if his waking up occurred as a result of his belts being transferred to Canelo Alvarez in such shady circumstances. The world watched and saw one of its finest champions robbed of his hard won belts by a failed drug cheat. Many were outraged but nothing was done and this crooked business goes on as before.

You can imagine his shock and frustration, no doubt some of it aimed at Sanchez and Loeffler who did virtually nothing to counter the corruption in their wish to get paid. So it's understandable that he's "sold out" himself since martyrdom is an increasingly rare commodity in these times. It tends not to pay very well in an era of instant global communication where reputations can be tarnished or even destroyed in a manner of minutes.

Yet despite all this, even today there are some (albeit mostly Canelo fans) who still adhere to the notion that Boxing, the WBC, and Las Vegas are running a clean business. Even a few here on boxec! That's what you call naive!

Gennady Golovkin to his regret now knows better.

I am an admitted Canelo hater.
Don't like him or Golden boy promotions.
GGG won the first fight closely but convincingly.
The rematch was closely won by Canelo.
We don't have to like it. But it's reality

[Bjl12]

I am an admitted Canelo hater.
Don't like him or Golden boy promotions.
GGG won the first fight closely but convincingly.
The rematch was closely won by Canelo.
We don't have to like it. But it's reality

Basically the same here.

They're 12-12 after 24 rounds. Hopefully we see a 3rd fight in the next year. To be honest I'd rather May, 2020 because Rolls isnt going to help prepare for Canelo

A fight with Andrade or Dervenchenko would help get some chemistry with Banks too

[Enlightened-One]

Gennadiy will demolish Rolls within three rounds, perhaps as early as the first, which would compel many morons to believe that Golovkin is better than ever,, but GGG will still legitimately lose his third bout against Canelo by a healthy margin.

It wouldn’t surprise me to see the Kazakh suddenly age overnight and lose to the Mexican by stoppage.

I really do hope I’m wrong, but I doubt I am, because Gennadiy has been one of my most favourite fighters over the last decade, but unfortunately for all of us, time doesn’t stand still and it’s extremely rare for anyone to improve with age, which GGG won’t.

[3132DW]

They won't say it. Most likely, Golovkin is pushing GGG Promotions fighters.

I read GGG didn’t like something Daniyar said about him so that’s why he’s been scrubbed from the show.

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I read GGG didn’t like something Daniyar said about him so that’s why he’s been scrubbed from the show.

We just don’t know what Dani said.

[boxing_rocks]

We just don’t know what Dani said.

Or if that is true at all. Dani is a boring boxer which could be a simple reason to not want him on a weak card.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Top 10 p4p fighter is electing to fight steve rolls

[jamamb]

Top 10 p4p fighter is electing to fight steve rolls

19 have tried, 19 have failed

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Boxing in this country has about 500k die hard fans. Everyone here is one of them.

I bet less than 5 percent have ever heard of rolls