Joshua is a C level fighter with A+ power

[dagilechia]

Joshua actually could win this fight after he knocked Ruiz down if not his stupid idea of trying to blast Ruiz out after the KD. He will be a favourite in rematch but of course Ruiz won fair, he deserved it that night, mistakes are part of this game and Ruiz just perfectly knew how to take advantage of it.

[greg]

..let's not be too hard on AJ, still a very solid resume with just one loss...

[Nondescript]

Just watched the fight (on mute) and I thought rounds 1 through 5 Povetkin made Joshua look like an amatuer. I gave him all 5 rounds.

Early in the fight Povetkin couldn't miss with that left hook due to AJ's low right hand and very poor stance. AJ is a man mountain the size of Klitchko or Lewis but he just doesn't utilize his height to any effect. Instead his wide stance and bent legs make him much lower target and easy to hit.

I'm not sure what instructions Rob McCracken gave AJ after r1 & 2, probably that he was getting countered too easy. By r3 Joshua was boxing like a poor man's George Groves. He gave up the centre of the ring to an older smaller man, circling Povetkin with his right hand high and his long left arm hangin out low and flailing in the wind. His jab is often reaching and off target. Exchanges on the inside again were poor from AJ, he looked clumsy with his stance giving space for the uppercut which Povetkin had success with.

I never really expected much from Povetkin. He's 40 years old and can obviously be hurt, I've seen him in bad shape vs Wlad & Price. He certainly had a punchers chance but by round 6 he was visibly gassed.

Perhaps it was the game plan by McCracken all along to circle and jab Povetkin until he was weak enough for AJ to step on him. Credit where it's due on the finish, when AJ throws a right cross in anger & you see his back follow through, it looks like it would break a brick wall.

AJ's an exciting fighter in the division, but I'm not impressed by his ability at all outwith his power. Wilder is a better fighter.

I don't think he's even got A+ power to be honest. Wilder has A+ power to me, whereas Joshua has got A power.

[Ricky]

I'd take Joshua in a rematch. I still think he is the better fighter. IMO, he vastly underestimated his opponent. And that's where he went wrong.

Better in what department? 1 shot power I'd say, out his depth otherwise.

[Enlightened-One]

Just because Andy Ruiz Jr. had more skill than AJ has, which is a claim I conveyed to the forum three years ago, that doesn’t mean that Anthony Joshua can’t be more skilful than Deontay Wilder.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ possesses devastating power in his right hand, but he isn’t fundamentally sound in terms of his boxing technique.

Your penchant for posting laughing emojis doesn’t actually disprove anything I’ve written, regardless the outcome of last night’s bout.

I have always maintained that Andy Ruiz Jr. has more skill than AJ has. And I can resubmit some of my old posts to prove this.

[Impractical Poster]

Just because Andy Ruiz Jr. had more skill than AJ has, which is a claim I conveyed to the forum three years ago, that doesn’t mean that Anthony Joshua can’t be more skilful than Deontay Wilder.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ possesses devastating power in his right hand, but he isn’t fundamentally sound in terms of his boxing technique.

Your penchant for posting laughing emojis doesn’t actually disprove anything I’ve written, regardless the outcome of last night’s bout.

I have always maintained that Andy Ruiz Jr. has more skill than AJ has. And I can resubmit some of my old posts to prove this.

Prove it, Mr "I'm Right".

[oogiebe]

Prove it, Mr "I'm Right".

Who cares.

[Ricky]

Who cares.

Nobody, Fergus is an assclown and should be ridiculed until he cries.

[oogiebe]

Nobody, Fergus is an assclown and should be ridiculed until he cries.

Can't disagree, but he is a narcissist and he'll never stop.

[Impractical Poster]

Who cares.

No one really. I just wanna see him take the time to search thru 3 years of his posts to prove a trivial point.

[oogiebe]

No one really. I just wanna see him take the time to search thru 3 years of his posts to prove a trivial point.

And he most certainly will! LMFAO!

[Impractical Poster]

Better in what department? 1 shot power I'd say, out his depth otherwise.

In the fighting department .

[Ricky]

In the fighting department .

Could have fooled me. Ruiz beat the quit out of him.

[oogiebe]

Could have fooled me. Ruiz beat the quit out of him.

That's how I saw it. AJ needs to consider whether he still has the fire it seems.

[Enlightened-One]

Prove it, Mr "I'm Right".

Search through some of my old posts about Andy Ruiz. There aren’t that many of them.

[Impractical Poster]

Search through some of my old posts about Andy Ruiz. There aren’t that many of them.

No thanks. You said you would resubmit them.

[Impractical Poster]

I read the title of a article earlier today that read, "Enormous Fraud Anthony Joshua Knocked Out By Thirsty, Hungry Fella".

This is a problem with people. They have their mediocre lives, and have to criticize someone unfairly for a poor performance.

First off, I'm not a Joshua fan. So, I'm not so much defending him as I am the point.

I have a problem with the title of this thread. Of course Joshua is an A level fighter. A C level fighter doesn't accomplished what he has done with only elite level power. You have to be able to land that power. And Joshua would not have been able to perform the way he did against the people he has if he was a C level fighter. That's absolutely silly to say.

A better way to phrase it is to say, Joshua has below elite level skill with elite level power. Let's face it, anyone below an A level fighter doesn't stop Wlad AND Povetkin. Not to mention, win a gold medal in the Olympics.

This is just a case of people kicking a man while he's down, and blowing things way out of proportion.

[oogiebe]

I read the title of a article earlier today that read, "Enormous Fraud Anthony Joshua Knocked Out By Thirsty, Hungry Fella".

This is a problem with people. They have their mediocre lives, and have to criticize someone unfairly for a poor performance.

First off, I'm not a Joshua fan. So, I'm not so much defending him as I am the point.

I have a problem with the title of this thread. Of course Joshua is an A level fighter. A C level fighter doesn't accomplished what he has done with only elite level power. You have to be able to land that power. And Joshua would not have been able to perform the way he did against the people he has if he was a C level fighter. That's absolutely silly to say.

A better way to phrase it is to say, Joshua has below elite level skill with elite level power. Let's face it, anyone below an A level fighter doesn't stop Wlad AND Povetkin. Not to mention, win a gold medal in the Olympics.

This is just a case of people kicking a man while he's down, and blowing things way out of proportion.

Click bait attention seeking morons. I agree with you, it's terribly frustrating. Just look at all the folks on BoxRec eulogizing AJ at this point. Lewis' detractors also had him finished after the Rahman fight. Time is the truth. I have a lot of concerns about AJ's abilities and now his heart, but he's not done yet. He certainly has the chance to comeback. He's still better than most of the HW's in contention.

[Enlightened-One]

No thanks. You said you would resubmit them.

Well I won’t do that, because by your own admission, you’re not interested.

[Bard of Boxrec]

I read the title of a article earlier today that read, "Enormous Fraud Anthony Joshua Knocked Out By Thirsty, Hungry Fella".

This is a problem with people. They have their mediocre lives, and have to criticize someone unfairly for a poor performance.

First off, I'm not a Joshua fan. So, I'm not so much defending him as I am the point.

I have a problem with the title of this thread. Of course Joshua is an A level fighter. A C level fighter doesn't accomplished what he has done with only elite level power. You have to be able to land that power. And Joshua would not have been able to perform the way he did against the people he has if he was a C level fighter. That's absolutely silly to say.

A better way to phrase it is to say, Joshua has below elite level skill with elite level power. Let's face it, anyone below an A level fighter doesn't stop Wlad AND Povetkin. Not to mention, win a gold medal in the Olympics.

This is just a case of people kicking a man while he's down, and blowing things way out of proportion.

Good post. It always happens. People who seem new to boxing get excited. But others deal in facts. The fact is Joshua would not have achieved what he has already without being a top fighter.

The funny thing is when the retrospective sages then start dissecting each win and suddenly there’s nothing worth respecting on the resume

It’s very simple. This isn’t a crisis point. There’s no Wlad style rehabilitation needed, just a little more control and intelligence. Joshua’s going to come back, fight more or less the same way as he always has, win the rematch , become dominant again, and learn from this offnight. Then the sages will go quiet again

[Impractical Poster]

Well I won’t do that, because by your own admission, you’re not interested.

Not a man of your word I see.

[Enlightened-One]

Not a man of your word I see.

So you're asking me to waste my time doing something that you've already boasted about being disinterested in? It would only take you ten seconds to verify the validity of my claims.

I won't agree to proving anything to someone that has already admitted to trying their upmost to waste my time.

Provide some proof that disproves what I claimed and then I'll submit the post. If you can't or won't try to do this, then please step away from the keyboard and start trolling someone else.

[tiny_acres]

Joshua is the best heavyweight boxer in the history of the sport with the stamina of a C level figher

Well now I know you are insane

[oogiebe]

Well now I know you are insane

So he has that going for him. He must be joking!

[Impractical Poster]

So you're asking me to waste my time doing something that you've already boasted about being disinterested in? It would only take you ten seconds to verify the validity of my claims.

I won't agree to proving anything to someone that has already admitted to trying their upmost to waste my time.

Provide some proof that disproves what I claimed and then I'll submit the post. If you can't or won't try to do this, then please step away from the keyboard and start trolling someone else.

I was just kidding. I really do care.