Yup.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 15:03 Let's not forget that Golovkin didn't "lose" his title to Canelo but was blatantly robbed by Vegas crooks.
If GGG looks good vs Rolls I'd like to see him fighting Andrade or Jermall!
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In reality GGG has won every fight.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 15:03 Let's not forget that Golovkin didn't "lose" his title to Canelo but was blatantly robbed by Vegas crooks.
Lest you forget:
Adalaide Byrd, Las Vegas, NV ... 110-118
Adelaide is STILL adjudicating fights for the mob in Las Vegas. Her last gig was in May at T Mobile Arena.
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It's ridiculous to call the rematch a robbery. Very close fight that was fairly judged.
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I agree. I scored it a draw real-time. Could have gone either way, but you, me and every boxing fan on Earth knew that it would go to Gingerhead.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 15:55 It's ridiculous to call the rematch a robbery. Very close fight that was fairly judged.
This is following the full on robbery of the first fight (which was put off as long as Gingerhead’s reputation could stand in order to age 3G), a PED violation leading up to the original rematch date, and a superficial penalty.
After stacking the deck for Gingerhead, they stack it again.
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Press poll results after the second fight: only 4% had Canelo winning. In case of draw, Golovkin would still have his belts.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 15:55 It's ridiculous to call the rematch a robbery. Very close fight that was fairly judged.
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Good for them. Press is no authority. I bet the majority had it 115-113 either way or a draw. It was a close fight.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 18:16 Press poll results after the second fight: only 4% had Canelo winning. In case of draw, Golovkin would still have his belts.
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... and in case of a close fight, a champion is supposed to keep his belts.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 18:19 Good for them. Press is no authority. I bet the majority had it 115-113 either way or a draw. It was a close fight.
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In case you need reminding, each round is scored individually and at the end of the fight each judge's scores are tallied individually.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 19:48 ... and in case of a close fight, a champion is supposed to keep his belts.
The scoring of rounds should not be influenced by the crowd noise, facial damage or the the events that occurred during previous rounds.
The judges are supposed to be impartial and not favour either fighter, regardless as to whether they’re: the champion, the challenger, the favourite, the underdog, the hometown hero or the road warrior.
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This is untrue.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 18:16 Press poll results after the second fight: only 4% had Canelo winning.
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I have heard that rationale since I was in intermediate school. Never could quite figure out how that works if the official rbr scoring goes against the belt holder in a close fight.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 19:48 ... and in case of a close fight, a champion is supposed to keep his belts.
How would that be done? “Timeout, we have a close decision for the challenger so we are going back and doctoring the cards. This will take a minute or ten.”
Are you suggesting that all close rounds should go to the belt holder? If so, how would that work if Wilder were to fight TFKoB next? Would the Mexican-American be awarded 3 out of 4 close rounds?
Championship level boxing is supposed to be scored as 12 individual battles, not as one piece of work. Maybe you should try to get the rules changed to give the boxer with the most belts a one or two round cushion.
Of course, Gingerhead enjoys that entitlement already.
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x2Enlightened-One wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 19:55 The judges are supposed to be impartial and not favour either fighter, regardless as to whether they’re: the champion, the challenger, the favourite, the underdog, the hometown hero or the road warrior.![]()
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Noboxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 19:48 ... and in case of a close fight, a champion is supposed to keep his belts.
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No need to go back. There are always close rounds which can go either way, so normally they would be given to a champion, but obviously not in case when his opponent is a cash cow like Canelo.ironbeard wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 20:03 I have heard that rationale since I was in intermediate school. Never could quite figure out how that works if the official rbr scoring goes against the belt holder in a close fight.
How would that be done? “Timeout, we have a close decision for the challenger so we are going back and doctoring the cards. This will take a minute or ten.”![]()
Are you suggesting that all close rounds should go to the belt holder? If so, how would that work if Wilder were to fight TFKoB next? Would the Mexican-American be awarded 3 out of 4 close rounds?
Championship level boxing is supposed to be scored as 12 individual battles, not as one piece of work. Maybe you should try to get the rules changed to give the boxer with the most belts a one or two round cushion.![]()
Of course, Gingerhead enjoys that entitlement already.
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He ducked Ward.apollo creed wrote: ↑08 Jun 2019, 12:52 The general consensus is that GGG got too late the big fights in his career. But he still manage to beat a young Canelo in their first fight.![]()
Never took risks in his career, the fight vs Froch in 168 was another fight that was easy to make.
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And there is a list of 50 former champions or profesional fighters that had Canelo winning.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 18:16 Press poll results after the second fight: only 4% had Canelo winning. In case of draw, Golovkin would still have his belts.
Press does not know sh.it about boxing, they are only fat guys like Dan Rafael
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Re: If GGG looks good vs Rolls I'd like to see him fighting Andrade or Jermall!
ggg vs ward seems like a fight that really never was going to happened or naturally led to each other, i think its a total sham as far as either ducking the other, ward wouldve won almost every round if they did fight though
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No. This is not in the rules.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 23:42 No need to go back. There are always close rounds which can go either way, so normally they would be given to a champion, but obviously not in case when his opponent is a cash cow like Canelo.
In theory, an evenly-contested round is scored 10-10, not automatically awarded to the champion.
Alternatively, a very close round should be awarded to the fighter that had the very slight edge over their opponent.
No wonder you always feel outraged and keep accusing the judges of being corrupt and biased, since you don’t know how to score fights.
In your mind, GGG shouldn’t have lost any closely-competitive round, which is simply wrong.
By your own admission, you’re a die-hard fan of GGG’s and still consider him as being the champ, which means you’ll actively look to for excuses (or any weak justification) to award any moderately competitive rounds to Golovkin, even when those that are objectively-minded would have either scored them even or favoured his opponents’.
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i guess that means our boy mr rocks will be giving canelo all the close rounds if they fight again 
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There are written rules and there are unwritten rules/customs.
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The only ones that should matter are the written rules the judges are supposed to follow.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Jun 2019, 12:09 There are written rules and there are unwritten rules/customs.
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115-113 to CaneloOnetimeonly wrote: ↑09 Jun 2019, 15:55 It's ridiculous to call the rematch a robbery. Very close fight that was fairly judged.
GGG face was destroyed, GGG was too precavide, Canelo landed better.shots and was better in defense