Golovkin vs Charlo

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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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jamamb wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 10:55 kid dares to be great though, props to him
He'd stop kovalev.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 00:20 You can’t “twist” facts, all you can do is preset them as they are.

In this case, they accurately the fact that nearly every aspect of GGG’s life revolves around US soil, such as the place of residence for himself, his family, his business, his fanbase, his network, the source of his revenue stream, the venue for his bouts, his home etc. :OhYes:

Mock me all you want. Deliver as many insults as humanly possible. Heck, even the forum moderators will even endorse whatever derogatory words you use, but there’s nothing you can do to disprove the obvious facts of reality I’ve detailed.

America is GGG’s home for himself and his family. It’s not foreign soil. Pretending otherwise is fùckïng monumentally stupid! :OhYes:

Seriously! No moronic fùckêr can seriously pretend that GGG is a road warrior where the country for the venue of his bouts is actually his fückïng home!

Oleksandr Usyk is a road warrior. And GGG isn’t. Even the most ardent and honest admirer of GGG couldn’t disagree with my words.

you are as helpless and desperate as EVER :lol:
..incidentally, you can consider me a moronic fùckêr ..I take it as a compliment from the likes of you.. :o
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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apollo creed wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 01:36 :TU: True road warrior.
X2 Absolutely
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boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 00:34 The guy fought in Germany, Norway, Ukraine, Panama, Monaco, UK, US. Nothing else needs to be said.
+ once in Kazachstan I believe..I wonder if there's another current boxer of the same caliber boxing WORLDWIDE.. :maybe:
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When he wasn't A side though? Probably only vs Brook
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GGG and his family lived in Stuttgart, Stuttgart Germany, on a permanent for several years.

GGG and his family have lived in the US (Santa Monica, California) on a permanent basis for several years.

A “road warrior” is a fighter that has to travel and leave their country of residence in order to compete.

GGG rarely competes on foreign soil, since his fights are usually staged in the country that he permanently resides in. He’s only needed to do this on one occasion in the last four years, against Kell Brook.

I could be wrong, but apart from the Kell Brook fight, GGG has only ever faced one hometown fighter in their own backyard, competing on foreign soil, throughout the entire course of his professional career.

This statistic may seem unbelievable, but if you check his resume, it’s appears to be 100% accurate!

Apart from the Canelo and the Kell Brook fights, GGG has pretty much been the proverbial A-side for the entirety of his professional career.

I’ll give you an example of a real road warrior, Oleksandr Usyk has had to depart his country of residence, the Ukraine, to travel to Poland, the US, the UK, Germany, Latvia and Russia in order to face the likes of: Krzysztof Glowacki; Thabiso Mchunu; Michael Hunter; Marco Huck; Mairis Briedis; Murat Gassiev; and Tony Bellew.
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Re: Golovkin vs Charlo

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Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 06:59
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A “road warrior” is a fighter that has to travel and leave their country of residence in order to compete.

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wrong ...a road warrior as opposed to a home-town boxer is a someone who travels and fights around the world ...
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greg wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 07:12 wrong ...a road warrior as opposed to a home-town boxer is a someone who travels and fights around the world ...
America is GGG's permant place of residence and has been for a long time.

A “road warrior” is a fighter that has to travel and leave their country of residence in order to compete.

GGG has only had one fight on foreign soil in the last four years.

GGG has only ever faced one hometown fighter in their own backyard, competing on foreign soil, throughout the entire course of his professional career (as suggested by his BoxRec resume).

With the exception of three fights, GGG has been the proverbial A-side for the entirety of his professional career.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 07:46 America is GGG's permant place of residence and has been for a long time.

A “road warrior” is a fighter that has to travel and leave their country of residence in order to compete.

GGG has only had one fight on foreign soil in the last four years.

GGG has only ever faced one hometown fighter in their own backyard, competing on foreign soil, throughout the entire course of his professional career (as suggested by his BoxRec resume).
...his current domicile is IRRELEVANT (US is definitely not his backyard ..unless of course you mean Las Vegas :brick: ), GGG was born and raised in Kazachstan and that's where he started boxing. Since that time he started travelling and boxed in about 7-8 countries WORLDWIDE, in some of these countries he chose to stay for a prolonged period of time...Travelling and moving around the world doesn't make your current domicile your backyard...

PS: I'll leave it at that...have neither time nor desire to reiterate the obvious, over and out :o
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Loeffler wasn't eager to have Golovkin in with Charlo last year. Said so around the time that Golovkin was throwing his IBF belt away rather than face Derevyenchenko.

Said that there were no plans for a Charlo bout.

Doubt he wants to reverse course these days, and endanger his man's chances of getting his final opportunity to "further his legacy" (the kind of thing that then pious Golovkin used to rant about before his priority lust for the almighty dollar was revealed last year) by challenging Canelo again.

Charlo has lots of flaws but he's no Steve Rolls. Golovkin still won't be allowed near him.
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greg wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 07:58 ...his current domicile is IRRELEVANT (US is definitely not his backyard ..unless of course you mean Las Vegas :brick: ), GGG was born and raised in Kazachstan and that's where he started boxing. Since that time he started travelling and boxed in about 7-8 countries WORLDWIDE, in some of these countries he chose to stay for a prolonged period of time...Travelling and moving around the world doesn't make your current domicile your backyard...

PS: I'll leave it at that...have neither time nor desire to reiterate the obvious, over and out :o
GGG has had many fights in America. He has been a permanent American resident for several years.

A “road warrior” is a fighter that has to travel and leave their permanent country of residence in order to compete.

GGG has only had one fight outside his current permanent country of residence within the last four years.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 08:09 GGG has had many fights in America. He has been a permanent American resident for several years.

A “road warrior” is a fighter that has to travel and leave their permanent country of residence in order to compete.

GGG has only had one fight outside his current permanent country of residence within the last four years.
:brick: PS: I'll leave it at that...have neither time nor desire to reiterate the obvious, over and out :o
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SenorPipino wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 08:06 Loeffler wasn't eager to have Golovkin in with Charlo last year. Said so around the time that Golovkin was throwing his IBF belt away rather than face Derevyenchenko.

Said that there were no plans for a Charlo bout.

Doubt he wants to reverse course these days, and endanger his man's chances of getting his final opportunity to "further his legacy" (the kind of thing that then pious Golovkin used to rant about before his priority lust for the almighty dollar was revealed last year) by challenging Canelo again.

Charlo has lots of flaws but he's no Steve Rolls. Golovkin still won't be allowed near him.
I agree. There's also the DAZN versus PBC factor to consider.
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SenorPipino wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 08:06 Loeffler wasn't eager to have Golovkin in with Charlo last year. Said so around the time that Golovkin was throwing his IBF belt away rather than face Derevyenchenko.

Said that there were no plans for a Charlo bout.

Doubt he wants to reverse course these days, and endanger his man's chances of getting his final opportunity to "further his legacy" (the kind of thing that then pious Golovkin used to rant about before his priority lust for the almighty dollar was revealed last year) by challenging Canelo again.

Charlo has lots of flaws but he's no Steve Rolls. Golovkin still won't be allowed near him.
Are you a complete idiot or just pretending? Don't you know that they were making a fight with your boy, Canelo?
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boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 10:38 Are you a complete idiot or just pretending? Don't you know that they were making a fight with your boy, Canelo?
I don't think at this point Canelo has the balls to box GGG outside of Las Vegas, let's see what DAZN has to say..
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boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 10:38 Are you a complete idiot or just pretending? Don't you know that they were making a fight with your boy, Canelo?
Loeffler did previously say that GGG wasn’t interested in Charlo.

It wasn’t stated in a manner that implied Golovkin would have been willing to consider it if he wasn’t already committed to engaging in other fights.

For sure, GGG has bigger fish to fry, but that doesn’t mean that Loeffler never uttered those words.

Abel Sanchez said the very same thing didn’t he?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 11:06 Loeffler did previously say that GGG wasn’t interested in Charlo.

It wasn’t stated in a manner that implied Golovkin would have been willing to consider it if he wasn’t already committed to engaging in other fights.

For sure, GGG has bigger fish to fry, but that doesn’t mean that Loeffler never uttered those words.

Abel Sanchez said the very same thing didn’t he?
Now you became an expert of a manner in which people speak? Where did FACTS go?
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boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 11:16 Now you became an expert of a manner in which people speak? Where did FACTS go?
Apparently you prefer to ignore or just plain bristle at facts that don't meet your approval.

C'est la vie.

Words are words. Trying to pretend that they're not what you want them to be only serves to reveal your very transparent agenda.
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SenorPipino wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 11:52 Apparently you prefer to ignore or just plain bristle at facts that don't meet your approval.

C'est la vie.

Words are words. Trying to pretend that they're not what you want them to be only serves to reveal your very transparent agenda.
Nobody else beside Canelo was on a radar in the last two years. DLH was opposed to Golovkin (or Canelo for that matter) facing other serious opponents to not affect their fights.
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mall just needs to fight someone interesting, anyone , very good talent but its getting boring
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jamamb wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 11:55 mall just needs to fight someone interesting, anyone , very good talent but its getting boring
Why don't Mall and Andrade fight to determine who deserves Canelo and Golovkin.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Jun 2019, 12:00 Why don't Mall and Andrade fight to determine who deserves Canelo and Golovkin.
Not a big enough fight for guys on competing networks to bother with.
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Susej_SOG wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 22:22 The clembuterol sh.it was in the first fight.

In the rematch Canelo was totally clean and beat the ass of GGG.

This fanboys of GGG are ignorant...

Márquez K.Od Pacquiao at 40 years old.

GGG was in prime and was top-3 in the world when Canelo destroyed him in the rematch
You are clueless and obviously a G’s hater somehow. The guys had his prestige stolen from him by corruptive judges and wants to fight Canelo a third time to avenge his loss and it’s another economic windfall for him. Andrade and Charlo fights would make absolute shat for money. Simple economics dork but too complex for you apparently.

GGG had been a textbook champ and fought everyone he had to and never missed weight , the day before or the day of. GGG no longer needs to do anything but what he wants to do now. Btw, how does a boxer without a belt , duck anyone. It’s not possible. Idiotic comments.
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caldo2025 wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 04:08 You are clueless and obviously a G’s hater somehow. The guys had his prestige stolen from him by corruptive judges and wants to fight Canelo a third time to avenge his loss and it’s another economic windfall for him. Andrade and Charlo fights would make absolute shat for money. Simple economics dork but too complex for you apparently.

GGG had been a textbook champ and fought everyone he had to and never missed weight , the day before or the day of. GGG no longer needs to do anything but what he wants to do now. Btw, how does a boxer without a belt , duck anyone. It’s not possible. Idiotic comments.
Spot on! GGG just wants to avenge his only 'loss' and of course grab that big money and the prestige. Atm I think Canelo is the only opponent that motivates GGG a lot. :box:
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Susej_SOG wrote: 26 Jun 2019, 22:22 The clembuterol sh.it was in the first fight.

In the rematch Canelo was totally clean and beat the ass of GGG.

This fanboys of GGG are ignorant...

Márquez K.Od Pacquiao at 40 years old.

GGG was in prime and was top-3 in the world when Canelo destroyed him in the rematch
The clenbuterol happened before the rematch was scheduled. Feb time I believe.
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