Greatest Offensive Boxer Ever?

[keithmoonhangover]

Stanley Ketchel.

[bigjack]

You could pick any of the fab 4 Hearns, Duran, hagler Even Leonard , then a young Tyson was up there how about zarate or Chavez .

Chavez for me

[keithmoonhangover]

Chavez for me

Chavez had a superb offence. The Edwin Rosario fight is the perfect example.

[paddy chavez]

Definitely top 5 most overrated resumes.

[elmersalsa]

Definitely top 5 most overrated resumes.

No, he didn't had an overrated resume. As a matter of fact, the great Jimmy Wilde had one of the best resumes ever of the Flyweight division. A top 20 all time pound per pound great in my book

[bigjack]

Chavez had a superb offence. The Edwin Rosario fight is the perfect example.

Definitely,he totally destroyed a very good fighter in Rosario and the big rights he took from Rosario just bounced off.

[Ambling Alp II]

Louis, Ali, and Holyfield were very accurate punchers. They consistently landed punches cleanly.
It's hard to pick just one guy. Robinson seemed to have it all; accuracy, speed, power, volume, vast array of punches.

[jamamb]

joe louis had absolutely perfect punch technique, you couldnt do it better then he did. every punch and combo was so sharp and clinical.

[cfang]

Gotta agree. I was gonna nominate Joe Louis as well. He wasn't the fastest in the world, didn't have perfect defense or footwork, but his timing, and combination punching was second to none, and he had devastating power with every shot in the book. Uppercuts, left hooks, the right cross, body shots. He could and did take guys out with all of the above.

His offense is what makes him the all time great legend that he is.

[Roars Like Me]

Sam Langford
Big George
Joe Frazier
Marvin Hagler
Jack Johnson
Marciano
Sonny Liston
Ron Lyle
Earnie Shavers
Julian Jackson
John Mugabi
Edwin Valero ( I know he's a wrong 'un)
Bob Foster

[Roars Like Me]

Sam Langford
Big George
Joe Frazier
Marvin Hagler
Jack Johnson
Marciano
Sonny Liston
Ron Lyle
Earnie Shavers
Julian Jackson
John Mugabi
Edwin Valero ( I know he's a wrong 'un)
Bob Foster

I missed the whole point of 1

[gilgamesh]

Sam Langford
Big George
Joe Frazier
Marvin Hagler
Jack Johnson
Marciano
Sonny Liston
Ron Lyle
Earnie Shavers
Julian Jackson
John Mugabi
Edwin Valero ( I know he's a wrong 'un)
Bob Foster

Just because Valero had a lot of knockouts over sub-par opposition does not mean he had all time great offensive skills. He wouldn't have lasted long at the top, and was never #1 in his weight. I would've loved it if the talks of him against Juan Manuel Marquez would've come through. Marquez would've embarrassed him, and ended all this mythical status nonsense he holds for no reason other than his shiny record.

[Onetimeonly]

Just because Valero had a lot of knockouts over sub-par opposition does not mean he had all time great offensive skills. He wouldn't have lasted long at the top, and was never #1 in his weight. I would've loved it if the talks of him against Juan Manuel Marquez would've come through. Marquez would've embarrassed him, and ended all this mythical status nonsense he holds for no reason other than his shiny record.

Yup, he wasn't a greater offensive fighter than may weather. We all like to get a new name out in these greatest ever threads. Valero is closer to biggest piece of crap ever.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- So sayeth the biggest crappeth expert, eh?

Crunching boxrec, Valero is within the top 1% of p4p fighters , notably ahead of Marcel Cerdan with 100+ wins and only 4 losses.

Seems Edwin had a mind for mathematics with 27 fights, 27 wins, 27 KOs, 3 perfect cubes of 3s before he chose to check out.

Horrific tragedy in leaving his 2 little girls orphans in a country now being torn apart. What was he thinkin'?

[BitPlayer]

Is Ali Raymi also in the debate then?

[Brian Seneca]

Julian Jackson. Not great fundamentals but when were you EVER SURE he was done in a fight? Norris, and on a lesser level Cardamone. I remember watching the Cardamone fight thinking Julian is shot (and he was) then BOOM!! Earnie Shavers deserves mentioning.

[Counter-puncher]

- So sayeth the biggest crappeth expert, eh?

Crunching boxrec, Valero is within the top 1% of p4p fighters , notably ahead of Marcel Cerdan with 100+ wins and only 4 losses.

Seems Edwin had a mind for mathematics with 27 fights, 27 wins, 27 KOs, 3 perfect cubes of 3s before he chose to check out.

Horrific tragedy in leaving his 2 little girls orphans in a country now being torn apart. What was he thinkin'?

Is Ali Raymi also in the debate then?

answer him. explain how you can tell a fighter's greatness with no other metrics but number of wins and number of knockouts. explain how quality of opposition has absolutely no bearing on judging a fighter's greatness. and please, whilst you do so, carry on with that oh-so-tiresome pose you have that somehow you've got this vast critical distance and objectivity, and the rest of the world doesn't. please, please, please, do that corny arrogant condescending tone, because it's particularly becoming when you're trying to make the argument that some dude who never fought anybody good was the greatest offensive fighters of all time, which you were able to prove by 'crunching boxrec' and referring to nothing more than number of wins and knockout %. Please do all that cute sh1t you usually do where the reader can literally hear you patting your own back in the joy of your own anachronistic and idiosyncratic phrase-making, whilst you make the point that a nobody who fought nobody was one of the greatest offensive fighters of all time, because there's nothing quite so amusing as a pompous cUUUUUnt making himself look fvcking ridiculous even as he seems to think he's being clever.

[Boxingology]

How about Wilfredo Gomez? Small dudes can be fierce!

42 KOs in 44 wins and just north of 100 lbs. Nuff said?

[JxhDel.]

Duran: he was stuff of nightmares infighting-wise.

[Scypion]

Floyd Patterson

[tiny_acres]

- So sayeth the biggest crappeth expert, eh?

Crunching boxrec, Valero is within the top 1% of p4p fighters , notably ahead of Marcel Cerdan with 100+ wins and only 4 losses.

Seems Edwin had a mind for mathematics with 27 fights, 27 wins, 27 KOs, 3 perfect cubes of 3s before he chose to check out.

Horrific tragedy in leaving his 2 little girls orphans in a country now being torn apart. What was he thinkin'?

Is Ali Raymi also in the debate then?

answer him. explain how you can tell a fighter's greatness with no other metrics but number of wins and number of knockouts. explain how quality of opposition has absolutely no bearing on judging a fighter's greatness. and please, whilst you do so, carry on with that oh-so-tiresome pose you have that somehow you've got this vast critical distance and objectivity, and the rest of the world doesn't. please, please, please, do that corny arrogant condescending tone, because it's particularly becoming when you're trying to make the argument that some dude who never fought anybody good was the greatest offensive fighters of all time, which you were able to prove by 'crunching boxrec' and referring to nothing more than number of wins and knockout %. Please do all that cute sh1t you usually do where the reader can literally hear you patting your own back in the joy of your own anachronistic and idiosyncratic phrase-making, whilst you make the point that a nobody who fought nobody was one of the greatest offensive fighters of all time, because there's nothing quite so amusing as a pompous cUUUUUnt making himself look fvcking ridiculous even as he seems to think he's being clever.

you sir are now my hero

[oogiebe]

answer him. explain how you can tell a fighter's greatness with no other metrics but number of wins and number of knockouts. explain how quality of opposition has absolutely no bearing on judging a fighter's greatness. and please, whilst you do so, carry on with that oh-so-tiresome pose you have that somehow you've got this vast critical distance and objectivity, and the rest of the world doesn't. please, please, please, do that corny arrogant condescending tone, because it's particularly becoming when you're trying to make the argument that some dude who never fought anybody good was the greatest offensive fighters of all time, which you were able to prove by 'crunching boxrec' and referring to nothing more than number of wins and knockout %. Please do all that cute sh1t you usually do where the reader can literally hear you patting your own back in the joy of your own anachronistic and idiosyncratic phrase-making, whilst you make the point that a nobody who fought nobody was one of the greatest offensive fighters of all time, because there's nothing quite so amusing as a pompous cUUUUUnt making himself look fvcking ridiculous even as he seems to think he's being clever.

you sir are now my hero

That was an A1 rant!

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- So sayeth the biggest crappeth expert, eh?

Crunching boxrec, Valero is within the top 1% of p4p fighters , notably ahead of Marcel Cerdan with 100+ wins and only 4 losses.

Seems Edwin had a mind for mathematics with 27 fights, 27 wins, 27 KOs, 3 perfect cubes of 3s before he chose to check out.

Horrific tragedy in leaving his 2 little girls orphans in a country now being torn apart. What was he thinkin'?

Is Ali Raymi also in the debate then?

answer him. explain how you can tell a fighter's greatness with no other metrics but number of wins and number of knockouts. explain how quality of opposition has absolutely no bearing on judging a fighter's greatness. and please, whilst you do so, carry on with that oh-so-tiresome pose you have that somehow you've got this vast critical distance and objectivity, and the rest of the world doesn't. please, please, please, do that corny arrogant condescending tone, because it's particularly becoming when you're trying to make the argument that some dude who never fought anybody good was the greatest offensive fighters of all time, which you were able to prove by 'crunching boxrec' and referring to nothing more than number of wins and knockout %. Please do all that cute sh1t you usually do where the reader can literally hear you patting your own back in the joy of your own anachronistic and idiosyncratic phrase-making, whilst you make the point that a nobody who fought nobody was one of the greatest offensive fighters of all time, because there's nothing quite so amusing as a pompous cUUUUUnt making himself look fvcking ridiculous even as he seems to think he's being clever.

- Ok, them leaky bowels of your'n in an inglorious uproar as the usual clusters swarm to lay their spawn in the void, no biggie.

After staff finishes fitting you with the latest in BigBoy comforts, direct them to find 3500+ p4p greater fighters than Edwin.

Boxrec p4p database is your friend. Copy and paste the 1% of 350,000+ p4p fighters. Then hunt and peck Edwin down to delete, and then add on the next name down.

Simples @#yesyoucan